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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Deserter (from Fairport Convention) From: Steve Gardham Date: 24 Jan 21 - 04:31 PM Lashes of the cat presumably. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Deserter (from Fairport Convention) From: GUEST,Guy Lambert Date: 24 Jan 21 - 04:22 PM Does anybody know what "three hundred and three" means. I can't find any useful reference to it! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Deserter (from Fairport Convention) From: Nigel Paterson Date: 05 Sep 18 - 06:47 AM In the spirit of completeness, 'The Halliard' were singing their version of 'The Deserter' (interestingly in 3/4 time too) at least two years earlier than the 1969 release date of 'Liege and Lief'. Words & music published in 'The Halliard Broadside Songs' (Mollie Music) & recorded on the CD of the same name. Book & CD are available from nicjones.net Nigel Paterson (mandolin, 'The Halliard') |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Deserter (from Fairport Convention) From: Tony Rees Date: 05 Sep 18 - 12:43 AM Just reading Swarb's "corrections to Fairport by Fairport by Nigel Schofield" in which he says that he never performed "The Deserter" with Kelly, merely used Kelly's idea which was to perform the song in 3/4 time. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Deserter (from Fairport Convention) From: Tony Rees Date: 22 Jun 18 - 12:27 AM I know this thread is a little old, but I too was looking for a reference to Luke Kelly performing "The Deserter", perhaps with Swarb... Came across this item: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/6afb8dae-8760-4277-a8e6-91530fa5eefc but no easy way to hear it of course... |
Subject: RE: The Deserter Fairport Convention query From: samundcandy Date: 21 Jan 05 - 01:42 PM Interesting trail of guest Per Jappée. Does anybody know where to get any bootleg recording of the "Deserter" sung by Luke Kelly? Or does anybody know other unreleased songs of Luke? |
Subject: RE: The Deserter Fairport Convention query From: pavane Date: 21 Jan 05 - 07:26 AM Ratcliffe Highway no longer exists it got so notorious that it was renamed as just 'The Highway' You may be interested in this old map of London, which shows how much the area has changed. Only a few of the street names seem to be still present (Pennington Street, Wapping Lane, Cannon Street) If you want to search for other streets, you will have to wait for the placename index to download, this takes a while as it is 900kb, then you can find any street name on the maps. Ratcliffe Highway |
Subject: RE: The Deserter Fairport Convention query From: GUEST,Per Jappée Date: 21 Jan 05 - 06:33 AM On the documentary "LUKE" you can hear Luke singing half a verse of "The deserter" in the background while John Faulkner is talking. It`s probably another recording than the one he did with Swarbrick. |
Subject: RE: The Deserter Fairport Convention query From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 21 Jan 05 - 02:32 AM Yes, that's the text in the DT at The Deserter, though you do give correctly the word "six" in the final verse, which somebody with a tin ear has put in the DT as "sticks". No need to quote the whole thing, though; a simple link would have sufficed. The song was still quite widespread when collectors were out looking for songs at the beginning of the 20th century; most examples were found in England, with some in Scotland too. The Roud Folk Song Index lists many of these at number 493; at present none, so far as I can see, from Ireland. If the tune came from Luke Kelly, I've no idea where he got it, or whether it belonged to this song or to another. As for "much older": not really. It certainly pre-dates Albert, but probably not by a great deal. See, for example, a number of broadside editions at Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads: The new deserter Some name Albert (the later ones include Ratcliffe Highway), others, only a few years earlier, name (a) Duke of York. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE DESERTER (from Fairport Convention) From: Rasener Date: 21 Jan 05 - 01:57 AM It is indeed Richard Les
Recorded by Fairport Convention on Liege and Lief and by the Young Tradition as "Ratcliff Highway" @soldier @Army @deserter @recruit filename[ DSERTER2 TUNE FILE: DSERTER2 CLICK TO PLAY JY
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Subject: RE: The Deserter Fairport Convention query From: Richard Bridge Date: 20 Jan 05 - 04:55 PM Is that the one also known as Radcliffe HIghway? I'd often felt that Albert verse intrusive, and stopped using it because of that. |
Subject: The Deserter Fairport Convention query From: Rasener Date: 20 Jan 05 - 02:52 PM Fairport Convention: The Deserter [Trad. arr. Fairport Convention] "Although we learned this song from a faded Victorian broadside, it is much older in origin. It was the habit of broadside printers to bring older songs up to date - in this case by including the name of Prince Albert." [Ashley Hutchings in "A Little Music"] This is a tune that was played by Luke Kelly (according to Swarbrick), and is in 3/4 time. Sandy felt that this was the best song on the album Liege and Lief. The Island CD version of this record was mastered without a break between this song and the instrumental medley following it. The question is Does anybody know if Luke kelly sang on this version or just played. Its said that he sung on a version of it for maybe 15 seconds or so. Anybody got any idea Cheers |
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