What's up with Mudcat this time!!???

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: MuddleC
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 08:00 AM

Use stronger glue next time Lynne..

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: MBSLynne
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 05:24 AM

Well Brucie, I went in to the chat on my own and sat waiting for others to come in and the whole thing fell over on me again so I gave up.......

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,Scooby
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 05:04 AM

Mudcat went down GMT 10.00 today.

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: Peace
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 01:59 PM

This IS tonight where you are.

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: MBSLynne
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 01:57 PM

Couldn't even get in the back door at all today. Hopefull it'll stay up long enough for a bit of chat tonight...

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: Peace
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 12:34 PM

I tried to get in just as you guys got the boot. When I got there the cupboard was bare.

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,Leadfingers
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 12:32 PM

That'll teach me to keep quiet !!It lasted half an hour !!

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,Giok
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 12:32 PM

You mean were on chat!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: Leadfingers
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 12:15 PM

5pm gmt and its all up and running - Several of us in Chat already

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 12:03 PM

Welcome back - but if you keep leaving me like this you can go for ever!!

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 12:03 PM

Well I've just looked at the 'Threads since you last posted', and it appears to have been off for 9 hours, so it's not just us. I think it waits till poor old Max goes to beddy byes, and then it sneaks off to see some pretty little server wench down the street.
Giok

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: sue exhull
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 11:55 AM

Im also UK and I havent been able to get on all day until just now (4.45pm) it just keeps saying page cannot be displayed. Dont know why! But at least Im on now :)

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 11:54 AM

I think John it was all of us in the UK who could not sign in,so dont go and lie down.
Scooby

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 11:54 AM

4.45pm Hull time, only just got in. Tedious to say the least.

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 11:52 AM

I hate to drag this thread up again, but is it just me?
I've been trying to log on for 7 hours here in the UK, but now I've managed all seems like normal. Has anyone else had a problem, am I going mad, should I just go away and lie down till I feel better?
Giok ¦¬]

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Feb 05 - 02:54 PM

Steady state?

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Feb 05 - 12:05 PM

Looks like the weekend crash is becoming a steady state

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,Giok
Date: 27 Feb 05 - 10:17 AM

Just lie down till it goes away dear
¦¬]

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,MBSLynne
Date: 27 Feb 05 - 10:08 AM

Well it seems to be up and down like a whore's drawers today. One minute I'm in the chat...next minute I'm out and can't get back into the site, a few minutes later it's ok so I go back in and then it chucks me out again and the site's down. I'm getting dizzy!

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 08:01 AM

Listening to Peggy Lee singing Fever as I type... I don't really know anything about her but I still love her singing of this. Perhaps she (in the late category) could be another candidate as being an expressive singer.

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 07:21 AM

Just tried http://buddy.mudcat.org to see if it still works. It looks a pretty good mp3 site! Well worth a visit.

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 06:38 AM

Geoff, that is not quite accurate. There have for example been times where some of the names have been the same machine and others when they weren't. I think the best machine was one Max had when in buisiness. Loki at one time reported itself to netcraft as an AS/400. It later reported itself as having the same IP address (and a Win PC) as www.

A ns lookup now for mudcat.org reveals 3 web servers

Help is on 99

Buddy does still show his presence on Mudcats public records as 110

www, loki, ragtime, shorty and taj are names assigned to 105.

They may or may not be accessible and if they are, may or may not be the same copy of the server programs (though the database they use would have to be common). It can be difficult to work out what is what as a server can host many sites and a default web site for an IP number can be set. At the moment, for example although help is on 99, the default for that IP address brings up a copy of the main forum..

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 06:01 AM

JeZeBeL - the old alternative entrances to Mudcat - Ragtime, Buddy etc. became redundant quite a while back when Max replaced his old computers with a new set of hardware. These do not have the same set of names which the old servers had. Now to contact the ain regular setup you just use "www.mudcat.org".
The new "Back Door" is a separate thing (I think it is on the same machine as the Mudcat Help forum), which people such as Jon and John have spotted and is often working when the main system has been unreachable.
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 09:19 AM

Today, Thursday, I got "Mudcat.org not found" at 8:50 a.m. Eastern STANDARD time. Came in the back door. Reading this thread, I decided to try how it is now. Exited to the Desktop, got on again, and:

At 9:15 a.m. Eastern STANDARD time, Mudcat home came up just fine.
Of course I don't know how long there had been a problem before I came on at 9:50.

DAve Oesterreich

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: Snuffy
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 08:48 AM

I usually come in here between 1.00 and 2.30 pm UK time, and it's been perfectly well-behaved every day this week, whereas last week I had to use the back door every day. No trouble early evening or midnight/1am this week either.

Is it now playing up at bad times for US Catters, or is it "reliable" now.

And here's how we amused ourselves a few years ago when the Cat kept going down Cat Down

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: annamill
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 01:33 AM

Sorry I went off like that. I guess I'm over protective. I apologize for my uncalled for explosion.

Annamill

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 05:18 PM

Yep Annamill I think perhaps you misunderstand, if we were just pissin' an' moanin' why would we give info like times etc to try and help Max pin down the glytch. Easy there pardner let them reins dangle on your horses neck for a bit.
Giok ¦¬]

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: PoppaGator
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 04:24 PM

Not complaining ~ just logging information that *might* help someone diagnose what's going on.

I'm back in via the front door as of 3+pm CDT time (US). I have a couple of PM exchanges going on, so I tried logging in about once an hour throughout the day ~ kept striking out until 10-20 minutes ago.

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: Azizi
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 04:17 PM

I agree with MBSLynne.

I appeciate Max's efforts.

I think that we're glad that Mudcat is here and wemiss it when it's down.

I for one have not a clue what the technical posts are 'saying'.
It's all mumbo jumbo to me.

I just read this thread to confirm that I wasn't the only one who experienced trouble getting in the door..

So I guess that means I'm addicted to Mudcat. It's a good thing that most of the time I can check in to threads that interest me and do my work too.

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: MBSLynne
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 04:07 PM

I don't think most people are complaining, I think they are trying to work out what the problem is

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: annamill
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 04:01 PM

HEY!! Max's doing the best he can with what he has. He has a wife and child to support and a job he goes to and still somehow manages to keep Mudcat going. He could use a little help you know!! How about putting up or shutting up? We don't need a whole thread full of complainers! Just enjoy it.

I'm sorry! All this complaining has finally made me mad.

Now here is a thread that should be censored!

Annamill

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: MBSLynne
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 03:54 PM

buddy hasn't worked for me for ages.

I was in at lunch time (12-1.30 in England) and again at 2.30-3.00, and got straight in this time too...it seems to be down sometimes, but usually seems to be up again much quicker than it was for a while, and for more of the time

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: Azizi
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 02:53 PM

jeZebel,

Here's what I use when the front door doesn't work:
http://207.103.108.99/threads.cfm

I've also seen this in a post, but I've never used it.
or
http://buddy.mudcat.org/threads.cfm



Azizi

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: JeZeBeL
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 02:45 PM

What's the backdoor for mudcat as I tried ragtime and that didn't work and I haven't been able to get on all day and I've been bored at work......

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,PoppaGator
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 01:00 PM

Had to use the "backdoor" today for the first time in almost a week. This was an everyday occurence every day for the previous week.

My last two or three posts are showing up as "GUEST," unidentified; I tend to forget when I'm "cookieless."

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,Charley Noble
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 12:52 PM

Well, I was doing a Forum search for threads about Rudy Vallee and Tattooed Lady song. It never recovered from that search.

I promise never to do it again.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,pavane
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 12:45 PM

From the thread so far, can we make the following statements?

1. The problem sometimes clears by itself
2. At other times, it is cleared by a reboot
3. It does not depend on the NUMBER of people logged in
4. It does NOT seem to be associated with spyware, adware etc

If so, it would seem likely that it is caused by someone external
accessing the site.

In which case is it the same person/site each time, or a different one? Is there any way to check the access stats and find out?

Does the server software allow sufficient monitoring that could detect someone downloading the whole site? Has anyone been able to monitor the system while it is 'down' and look at the disk & CPU utilisation?

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,brucie
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 12:20 PM

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,Flamenco ted
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 12:06 PM

ditto!!

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,Giok 99
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 12:03 PM

Locked out again

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 12:01 PM

" The general uptime for Mudcat is poor"

There's an understatement...

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: nutty
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 04:17 PM

I had to stay in today as I was waiting for a delivery. I accessed Mudcat (in the normal way) at various times throughout the day with no problems at all.

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 03:40 PM

A subtle change noted: Previously when I went to the backdoor and logged in (while the main server was up) my cookie for the main server got crunched and I had to log in again when I returned to the main one. I tried it again over the weekend, and managed to get a cookie (or maybe it's two?) that seems to let me be a real person both places - or at least that did all day Saturday.

John

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,MBSLynne
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 03:10 PM

Down again at 8.12 after having been up all day again. It's changed it's time it seems!

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 07:49 AM

Could be Leadfingers but I honestly don't know. The general uptime for Mudcat see here is poor but there certainly to me seems to be more problems than just that at the moment.

I do have my doubts as a general principle over things like Mudchat that use the main server to hold chat variables and serve pages to participants on a server that is already (IMO) unstable but there is no way I can identify that as a cause of problems, and given that as far as my best guest would be, most chats would be at MC night time and problems appear mostly at MC early morning, I would suspect my own doubts are unfounded in terms of the cause.

It also needs to be remembered that MC has run more reliably as this with chat running.

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: MBSLynne
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 07:27 AM

Well I went into a couple of other sites with no probs this morning so it did seem to be only Mudcat.

Terry...half term was last week..

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: Leadfingers
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 07:19 AM

Just a thought , allowing for the fact that I am NOT a 'puter geek at all , but its been OK in the morning both days this week - and its Half term in UK isnt it ? Could this be trigered by a SCHOOL 'puter ??

The odd drop outs at different times could be caused by a number of different things - A Hiccup with a line in Mudcat County , or whatever . I was in Mudchat last night and we all got bunged out for about ten minutes !

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 06:37 AM

That could be either Lynne. While I do like tech and could even run to writing small trivial programs in a variety of languages (pascal like, basic like or c like), but nothing complicated, a lot of my attempts at diagnosis don't really demand anything tech headed.

An indication of where a problem lies can be to try to reach other sites. If I can reach 20 others without problem and I can't get to Mudcat or Mudcat is slow for example, it is a pretty reasonable indication that the problem is with Mudcat and not with the Internet in general. I do things like that quite often when things don't work for me.

My router is also helpful as is the case now - (assuming I haven't got the post through and this is a duplicate. It is telling me at the moment it can not connect to Vartec [again]) The number of times this ISPP has fallen over in the past week is getting to be really annoying.

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: MBSLynne
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 06:12 AM

Well I don't know Jon, being a total techno-idiot. All I know is that I got a message about "unable to find the server mudcat.org", but I got straight in by the back door. I tried again before I went off line and could still not get in. I went straight in this time through the front door though, at just after 11.00 am English time.

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: What's up with Mudcat this time!!???
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 05:45 AM

Well as I said before I couldn't get in either door at 13:30 on the 12th, and the same happened again last night at about 22:30 when there was a mass dooring in the Mudchat dept.
Giok