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Subject: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Thompson
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 07:58 AM

Apparently BBC Radio 4's programme about Bob Marley (downloadable and listenable-to at the moment) describes him as a very, very tidy man who hated disorder.

Anyone got any stories?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: JohnB
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 09:36 AM

He would have been 60 years old today (Feb 4th 2005)Happy Birthday Bob
His wife apparently wants to dig up his remains and move them to Ethiopia, the origin of Rastafaria.
JohnB.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: GUEST,Mexican
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 10:17 AM

Did you know that he was the son of a white middle class army officer. Rastafari is a pseudo cult based on a theiving gold worsipping arab who brainwashed the negro population into believing he was god!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Azizi
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 05:37 PM

Oh no! You didn't go there Guest Mexican! You didn't use that old fashioned word 'Negro' and spell it with a small 'n' to boot!!

And you didn't have the NERVE to use Bob Marley's name in vain...

See I love me some Bob Marley and alot of people all around the world-Black, White, or Green for that matter do too!

Guest Mexican, I'ma warnin you. Don't mess with my Bob Marley
or else or else

I'll start singing La Cucaracha..

And-You-Wouldn't-Like-That!

---
PS For those who really wanna know:
'Tafari' was the Ethiopian Emperor Haile Selassie's name before he became Emperor...And 'Ras' is an Amharic {Ethiopian] title similar to the English nobility title "Lord" {though it is now most often translated as 'Prince'}.

Without his prior knowledge or real support, the 'Rastafarians' considered [consider] Haile Selassie to be the embodiment of God.

They also considered [consider] Ethiopia to be the homeland of all Black people in the 'New World' of the Caribbean & the USA.

---
And for you fellow collectors of bits & pieces of info:
the contemporary nation of Ethiopia was actually just a province of ancient Ethiopia and ancient Rthiopia=the modern day nation of The Sudan ..

Ms. Azizi


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Peace
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 05:55 PM

GUEST, Mexican: You been told. Good!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Thompson
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 05:55 PM

But what about the neatnik story? This is the programme:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/greatlives/zephaniah_marley.shtml

(It'll only be available for a few days.)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: GUEST,Mexican
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 06:49 PM

You tossers - he was still a despot who milked the Negroes dry.
Bob Marley was half white and middle class, you idiots cannot change that.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Peace
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 06:52 PM

Who's trying to, GUEST, Mexican. Re the idiots remark: I have a spatula for you with specific instructions as to where you should put it. Have a nice day.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: GUEST,Mexican
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 07:02 PM

I'm black and I'm sick of you whites patronising us. Marley was shit white man's rock, not true Jamaican music. Ethiopia is a shithole most Jamaicans have never heard of - they think it's a band.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Peace
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 07:17 PM

I don't give a rat's arse end what colour you are. You have a shitty attitude and I don't need some AH like you calling me an idiot. Do you want the spatula directions?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: GUEST,Mexican
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 07:33 PM

You fucking white shit lick my black arse you racist scum!!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Peace
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 07:38 PM

Such an erudite person aren't you?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Peace
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 07:48 PM

You know, properly punctuated, that might actually say something.

"You fucking white shit lick my black arse you racist scum!!"

I think it would read much better thus:

"You fuckin' white shit! Lick my black arse--you racist scum!"

No thanks necessary, GUEST Mexican. If you ever need help with your writing BEFORE you post, please message me.

BM


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 07:58 PM

Happy Birthday Bob!
Isn't it great to see such a loving spirit of Jah and true universal brotherhood?
"Until the philosophy that hold one race superior than another.
Inferior.
Is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned...
Everywhere is war..."
Jah Love


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Peace
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 07:59 PM

Anybody want to break into song?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Peace
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 08:07 PM

For anyone who's interested:


http://www.hotshotdigital.com/OldRock/BobMarleyBio.html


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Azizi
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 09:04 PM

Guest who is probably neither Mexican or 'black' but is certainly a troll:

"If you knew your history
you would understand where we're
comin from"

Okay, trolly...Mission Unaccomplished.
How about buffaloing your weak self out of here because nobody buys your sorry rendition of history or the fake identity that you are a brother man.

Anybody who knows anything about Robert Nesta Marley knows that he came out of poverty..And the fact that he is a product of a mixed relationship means very little since quite a number of people of color are...

I could count the many ways that your posts give you away as not being of African descent..

but since I don't want to waste my time with the likes of you let me just say for the record that in the last 4 decades, WE only use 'Negro' as a degratory term for those Black people who mean the rest of us no good.

Is this something they forgot to teach you when you were instructed to come on here and pose as an African American?

You further give yourself away as being non-Black as since the 1960s NO African American who had ANY degree of understanding of our history would spell Negro with a small 'n'...That is such a giveaway that you are no one of us...

And as for Jamaicans not knowing about Ethiopia- Puleeze!

So in other words-You failed your assignment ...

You need to go back to Black acting school...I'm certainly not buying the lie that you are Black...

Ms. Azizi, a sista sista


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Azizi
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 09:15 PM

Brucie,

I'll sing 'One Love' along with you and along with any right minded person irregardless of race or ethnicity...

IMO, people like pseudo Mexican/psuedo Negro Guest aren't worth losing energy or losing your cool over...

I'm not going to exchange any more comments with him...

Of course it's your choice whether you decide to continue any exchange with him, but I'm sure you have better ways to spend your time...

But, for what it's worth [and I think it's worth alot} I appreciated your efforts to Get Up, Stand Up, Stand Up For The Right.


Peace,

Azizi


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: JennyO
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 10:19 PM

*sings*

One love! one heart!
Let's get together and feel all right.
Hear the children cryin' (one love!);
Hear the children cryin' (one heart!),
Sayin': give thanks and praise to the lord and I will feel all right;
Sayin': let's get together and feel all right. wo wo-wo wo-wo!

Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (one love!);
There is one question I'd really love to ask (one heart!):
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner,
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own beliefs?

One love! what about the one heart? one heart!
What about - ? let's get together and feel all right
As it was in the beginning (one love!);
So shall it be in the end (one heart!),
All right!
Give thanks and praise to the lord and I will feel all right;
Let's get together and feel all right.
One more thing!

Let's get together to fight this holy armagiddyon (one love!),
So when the man comes there will be no, no doom (one song!).
Have pity on those whose chances grows t'inner;
There ain't no hiding place from the father of creation.

Sayin': one love! what about the one heart? (one heart!)
What about the - ? let's get together and feel all right.
I'm pleadin' to mankind! (one love!);
Oh, lord! (one heart) wo-ooh!

Give thanks and praise to the lord and I will feel all right;
Let's get together and feel all right.
Give thanks and praise to the lord and I will feel all right;
Let's get together and feel all right.


Happy Birthday Bob!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Peace
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 10:31 PM

I ain't losin' my cool. I am losin' his.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: GUEST,Azizi
Date: 05 Feb 05 - 11:03 AM

Brucie- Well Alright Now!!

JennyO- Thanks for posting those lyrics!

Another Bob Marley composition that I love is "Redemption Songs".

See this excerpt, followed by the song's lyrics:

"Redemption Song" was a plaintive, almost Dylanesque acoustic spiritual song, devoid of any trance of reggae. When he sang it, he wore the expression of a playful child, but his voice bore the authority of a Biblical patriarch.

A universal tune, another Bob Marley song that has become a standard, 'Redemption Song' is like a final statement in a career, a summation of all the themes and thought that had created it. "You've got to live out the book." An earnest acoustic version closes the Uprising album while a live version recorded at a show in Pittsburgh, Pennslyvania, on September 23, 1980 - the last concert Bob performed -appears on Songs of Freedom. "There was a feeling of a whole era coming to a climax. Everyone felt that he knew something was going to happen," says Rita Marley.

end of quote.

[Robert Nesta Marley died of cancer shortly thereafter, but his spirit lives on.]

REDEMPTION SONGS {Words by Bob Marley}

Old pirates yes they rob I
Sold I to the merchant ships
Minutes after they took I from the
Bottom less pit
But my hand was made strong
By the hand of the almighty
We forward in this generation triumphantly
All I ever had is songs of freedom
Won't you help to sing these songs of freedom
Cause all I ever had redemption songs, redemption songs

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
None but ourselves can free our minds
Have no fear for atomic energy
Cause none of them can stop the time
How long shall they kill our prophets
While we stand aside and look
Some say it's just a part of it
We've got to fulfill the book

Won't you help to sing, these songs of freedom
Cause all I ever had, redemption songs, redemption songs, redemption songs

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
None but ourselves can free our minds
Have no fear for atomic energy
Cause none of them can stop the time
How long shall they kill our prophets
While we stand aside and look
Yes some say it's just part of it
We've got to fulfill the book

Won't you help to sing, these songs of freedom
Cause all I ever had, redemption songs
All I ever had, redemption songs
These songs of freedom, songs of freedom

---

Ms. Azizi


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Folk Form # 1
Date: 05 Feb 05 - 02:59 PM

Rastas were a bunch of idiots who believed in the most incredible things, but then they share that with most Christians. Marley was a talented singer-songwriter and his band, The Wailers, were excellent musicians; but I cannot help thinking he is hopelessly over-rated. He had nothing of interest to say - about Jamaica, about being black, or about slavery. Check his songs: he just came out with the same old nonsense that everybody else in Jamiaca was spouting about at the time. Read his interviews he gave when alive - about as insightful and articulate as a drunken bar-room bore. He rarely made sense. He wrote and recorded some lovely songs, but that is the most you can say about him. History has been far too kind to Bob Marley.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Azizi
Date: 05 Feb 05 - 05:39 PM

Your opinion. Not mine.


Azizi


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: GUEST,Nig Nog
Date: 05 Feb 05 - 06:51 PM

I used to drink with Marley in the Mugger's Arms back in the early sixties, before we exported our particular brand of crime to the UK. Tight fisted ras claat always ducked out when it was his round!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Peace
Date: 05 Feb 05 - 07:54 PM

Hey, GNN--I KNOW you got brown eyes. You know why I know?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: s6k
Date: 05 Feb 05 - 08:19 PM

We'll be forever loving Jah


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bob Marley a neatnik?
From: Houston_Diamond
Date: 22 Sep 09 - 06:13 PM

Hi, I know this is 4 years too late but his birthday is the 6th February :)

And as per usual I got really rat-arsed, stoned and belted out Marley songs all night with my guitar.

Thank you Nesta, you may have been ½ Welsh but I wont hold that against you ;)


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