Subject: Lyr Req: Old McDonald From: Mr Happy Date: 04 Feb 05 - 11:01 PM Anyone have complete words for this one? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald From: Sorcha Date: 04 Feb 05 - 11:09 PM Had a farm? Wotcha? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald From: Peace Date: 04 Feb 05 - 11:11 PM http://216.239.63.104/search?q=cache:zIwhzpGABpgJ:www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Cottage/3192/Oldmcdonald.html+%22Old+macdona |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald From: GUEST Date: 04 Feb 05 - 11:18 PM Would you please define your view of COMPLETE? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 04 Feb 05 - 11:25 PM There are no complete words. See thread 24747 for some musical ones- oompah, drum, etc. OLd Mac Invent your own. gator- chomp chomp tractor- chug chug jug- chug-a-lug doxie- ? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald From: Peace Date: 04 Feb 05 - 11:30 PM Mr Happy: I figger that between the link above and this one, ya should have enought to keep ya goin' for a while. http://dir.yahoo.com/science/biology/zoology/animals__insects__and_pets/complete_list_of_animals_by_name/whitepages/wp_0.html |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald From: Joe Offer Date: 05 Feb 05 - 01:59 PM You know, it seems to me that we haven't taken this song seriously enough. If we look into it, we might find something surprising. Here's the Traditional Ballad Index entry: Old MacDonald Had a FarmDESCRIPTION: (Old MacDonald's) farm features a wide variety of livestock, described cumulatively, e.g. with the pig making an oink here and an oink there, the cow a moo-moo here and there, etc. until the entire farm is sounding offAUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1917 (Tommy's Tunes) KEYWORDS: animal farming cumulative nonballad FOUND IN: US(MW,SE,So) REFERENCES (7 citations): Randolph 457, "The Merry Green Fields of the Lowland" (1 text); 458, "Old Missouri" (1 text) BrownIII 125, "McDonald's Farm" (5 text) Kennedy 310, "When I Was a Boy" (1 text, 1 tune) Gilbert, p. 83, "Old MacDonald Had a Farm" (1 text) Silber-FSWB, p. 389, "Old MacDonald Had A Farm" (1 text) LPound-ABS, 120, pp. 238-240, "Sweet Fields of Violo" (1 text) Fuld-WFM, pp. 410-412, "Old MacDonald Had a Farm" Roud #745 RECORDINGS: Warren Caplinger's Cumberland Mountain Entertainers, "McDonald's Farm" (Brunswick 294, 1929; Brunswick [Canada] 224, c. 1933) Sam Patterson Trio, "Old MacDonald Had a Farm" (Edison 51644, 1925) Gid Tanner & His Skillet Lickers, "Old McDonald Had A Farm" (Columbia 15204-D, 1927) SAME TUNE: Golly, Ain't That Queer (Pankake-PHCFSB, pp. 171-172) ALTERNATE TITLES: The Farmyard Song Notes: Are the pieces listed here really one song? It's not immediately obvious. The British and American versions are often very distinct, but there are intermediate versions, e.g. Randolph's. Neither of Randolph's texts conforms to the common version of "Old MacDonald," and "The Merry Green Fields of the Lowland," in particular, looks older (It probably derives from the George Christy version "In the Merry Green Fields of Oland," from 1865; compare Sharp's "Merry Green Fields of Ireland" and Pound's "Sweet Fields of Violo"). But the cumulative pattern is the same (indeed, something very like it is quoted in Pills to Purge Melancholy in 1707), so I assume the family is a unity. Gilbert claims the piece (in which "My Grandfather," rather than "Old MacDonald, is the farmer) comes from a busker of the 1870s called "the Country Fiddler," but gives no details to verify this. I use the "Old MacDonald" title because it is the best-known, though Fuld reports that this version did not appear until 1917 (and even then, it was "Old MacDougal"). - RBW File: R457 Go to the Ballad Search form The Ballad Index Copyright 2004 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. Be sure to see this thread (click) for early versions of the song. |
Subject: ADD: Old Mac Donald Had a Farm From: Joe Offer Date: 05 Feb 05 - 02:43 PM OK, so here's the more-or-less "common version"*, which I found in Silber & Silber's Folksinger's Wordbook Old MacDonald Had A Farm
*I suppose, if I were totally honest, "common version" means what I've known since I've known since I was a kid in Detroit, seat of all American culture and tradition (and home of Motown Records) -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Req: Old McDonald / Old Mac Donald Had a Farm From: jacqui.c Date: 05 Feb 05 - 02:46 PM Seamus Kennedy did a great version of this Called Old Macdonald Had A Deformed Farm. It's great. |
Subject: ADD Version: McDonald's Farm (Brown 125A) From: Joe Offer Date: 05 Feb 05 - 02:55 PM In Book of World-Famous Music, Fuld says the first-known printing of the familiar music and words of this song was in Tommy's Tunes, published in October, 1917 - with the title "Ohio" and it is "Old MacDougal who has the farm. This is #125A from the Frank C. Brown Collection of North Carolina Folklore, from Miss Mary Scarborough of Dare County, "in 1923 or thereabouts." Notice that the wording is just a bit different from the Silber version above. McDonald's Farm Old McDonald had a farm, E-i ei o And on that farm he had some chicks, E-i ei o With a chick chick here and a chick chick there, And a here chick, there chick, everywhere chick chick. Old McDonald had a farm, E-i ei o. And on that farm he had some turkeys, E-i ei o With a gobble gobble here, and a gobble gobble there, And a here gobble, there gobble, everywhere gobble gobble, Chick chick here, chick chick there, Here chick, there chick, everywhere chick chick. Old McDonald had a farm, E-i ei o. And on that farm he had some ducks, E-i ei o With a quack quack here and a quack quack there, And a here quack, there quack, everywhere quack quack, etc. And on that farm he had some geese, E-i ei o With a honk honk here, and a honk honk there, etc. Here's the tune. Note that the "here a chick" part is just a bit different from what we're familiar with. Click to playMessage #1,400,000 |
Subject: Lyr Add: OHIO / OLD MACDOUGAL HAD A FARM From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 05 Feb 05 - 04:04 PM From "Tommy's Tunes." OHIO (Old Macdougal Had a Farm) Old Macdougal had a farm in Ohio-i-o, And on that farm he had some dogs in Ohio-i-o, With a bow-wow here, and a bow-wow there, Here a bow, there a wow, everywhere a bow-wow. Old Macdougal had a farm in Ohio-i-o, And on that farm he had some hens in Ohio-i-o, With a cluck cluck here, and a cluck cluck there, Here a cluck, there a cluck, everywhere a cluck cluck. Old Macdougal had a farm in Ohio-i-o, And on that farm he had some ducks in Ohio-i-o, With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there, Here a quack, there a quack, everywhere a quack, quack. Old Macdougal had a farm in Ohio-i-o, And on that farm he had some cows in Ohio-i-o, With a moo moo here, and a moo moo there, Here a moo, there a moo, everywhere a moo moo. Old Macdougal had a farm in Ohio-i-o, And on that farm he had some pigs in Ohio-i-o, With a grunt grunt here and a grunt grunt there, Here a grunt, there a grunt, everywhere a grunt grunt. Old Macdougal had a farm in Ohio-i-o, And on that farm he had some cats in Ohio-i-o, With a meow meow here, and a meow meow there, Here a meow, there a meow, everywhere a meow meow. Old Macdougal had a farm in Ohio-i-o, And on that farm he had an ass in Ohio-i-o, With a hee-haw here, and a hee-haw there, Here a hee, there a haw, everywhere a hee-haw. Meow-meow, grunt-grunt, moo-moo, quack-quack, Cluck-cluck, bow-wow, Old Macdougal had a farm in Ohio-i-o. With music. Coll. and Arr. F. T. Nettleingham, 2nd. Lt. R. F. C., 1917, "Tommy's Tunes," Erskine MacDonald Ltd., London, No. 89, pp. 84-85. "Arranged on active service with the B. E. F." An excellent collection of WW1 tunes and lyrics (lacking the bawdy stuff). Click to play |
Subject: RE: Req: Old McDonald / Old Mac Donald Had a Farm From: Joe Offer Date: 05 Feb 05 - 04:11 PM Not to bring in the contentious religious discussions of the last few days, but I have to remind myself today that one of the Ten Commandments says:
-Joe Offer- And Tommy's Tunes is available at the archive of the Immortalia Website (click). -Joe Offer, July, 2009- |
Subject: RE: Req: Old McDonald / Old Mac Donald Had a Farm From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 07 Feb 05 - 01:44 PM "Old MacDougal Had a Farm" is known as a title in the States, but attached to the usual Old MacDonald Eee-1, eee-i. eee-i, o version. From University of Illinois Extension, Nutrition literature, credited to the "Youth Curriculum Sourcebook" of the Univ. Wisconsin Extension Staff, 1994. It contains one verse seldom used in most sing-a-longs, and Old MacDougal becomes female, e. g.: On that farm she had a fish Eee-i, eee-i, eee-i, o. With a blub blub here and a blub blub there, Here a blub, there a blub, Everywhere a blub blub, Old MacDougal had a farm, Eee-i, eee-i, o. It concludes with- On that farm she had lots of animals Eee-i, eee-i, o, followed by another enumeration of all the animals and their sounds. The following song is from a Flemish student website in Belgium: Lyr. Add: Old Mac Doodle Old Mac Doodle had a little farm Down to the Ohio-io And on his farm he had some pigs Down to the Ohio-io And a grow-grow here And a grow-grow here Here a grow There a grow, And ev'rywhere a grow. Down by the stream (bis) That's where I go (bis) Back to my home (bis) I dare not to go (bis) For if I do (bis) My rent I owe (bis) Have you never seen a nigger With a big eyebrow? Down to the Ohio-io? I have separated the text into three verses for clarity. More than one song seems to be combined here. Is the 'grow-grow" imitative of the pig's grunt? Notable mostly for the 'Ohio-io,' which appears in the 1917 version from "Tommy's Tunes." Mac Doodle Also this: Lyr. Add: Cookie's Old MacDougal Song 'Just the chorus of a classic' When Old MacDougal blow his bugle, me I, me I google! With a google, google here, and a google, google there Here a google, there a google, everywhere a google, google When Old MacDougal blow his bugle, me I, me i google! MacDougal Song |
Subject: RE: Req: Old McDonald / Old Mac Donald Had a Farm From: Lighter Date: 07 Feb 05 - 02:25 PM Joe, John Mehlberg's site has a pdf of "Tommy's Tunes." Nettleingham also compiled "More Tommy's Tunes" shortly afterwards, but it's not on the Web. Yet. |
Subject: RE: Req: Old McDonald / Old Mac Donald Had a Farm From: Lighter Date: 07 Feb 05 - 02:26 PM Just remembered that a 17th C. "version" of "Old Mac" is said to exist somewhere - but where? Must check my scattered notes. |
Subject: ADD Version: The Merry Green Fields of the Lowland From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 07 Feb 05 - 03:48 PM There is a piece in D'Urfey, "Pills to Purge Melancholy," 1719, II, pp. 214-216 which quotes a text and tune from the opera "Kingdom of the Birds," with these lines: Booing here, booing there, Here a boo, there a boo, everywhere a boo. There also are 19th c. notes which I am tracing down, esp. in songbooks ca. 1860. This one is a related variant; from Ozark Folksongs: The Merry Green Fields of the Lowland Old Massa had a very fine hog, In the merry green fields of the lowland, He turned him in to be seen In the merry green fields of the lowland, And it's oink here, and an oink there, Naff-naff-naff and ev'rybody laugh as they go past In the merry green fields of the lowland. Old Massa had a very fine dog In the merry green fields of the lowland, He turned him in to be seen In the merry green fields of the lowland. And it's bow-wow here and a bow-wow there, And here a bow, there a bow, here a bow-wow, Oink here and an oink there, Naff-naff-naff and everybody laugh as they go past In the merry green fields of the lowland. Old Massa had a very fine turkey In the merry green fiends of the lowland, He turned him in to be seen In the merry green fields of the lowland. And it's gibble-gobble here and a gibble-gobble there, And here a gobble, there a gobble, here a gibble-gobble, And it's bow-wow here and a bow-wow there, And here a bow, there a bow, here a bow-wow, And an oink here and an oink there, Naff-naff-naff and everybody laugh as they go past In the merry green fields of the lowland. Ol Massa had a very fine sheep In the merry green fields of the lowland, He turned him in to be seen In the merry green fields of the lowland. And it's blib-blab here and a blib-blab there, And it's gibble-gobble here and a gibble-gobble there, And here a gobble, there a gobble, here a gibble-gobble, And it's bow-wow here and a bow-wow there, And here a bow, there a bow, here a bow-wow, And an oink here and an oink there, Naff-naff-naff and everybody laugh as they go past In the merry green fields of the lowland. This song perhaps came from a play-party dance. With music, sung by Mr. Doney Hammondtree, Arkansas, 1942, learned about 1900, and he "thinks it is the ancestor of another build-up song known as Old MacDonald Had a Farm." Vance Randolph, "Ozark Folksongs," vol. 3, no. 457, pp. 211-212. Click to play |
Subject: ADD Version: Old Missouri From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 07 Feb 05 - 04:04 PM Another related song from Randolph. Old Missouri Old Missouri had a mule, he-hi-he-hi-ho, And on this mule there were two ears, he-hi-he-hi-ho. With a flip-flop here and a flip-flop there, And here a flop and there a flop and everywhere a flip-flop Old Misouri had a mule, he-hi-he-hi-ho. Old Missouri had a mule, he-hi-he-hi-ho, And on this mule there was a tail, he-hi-he-hi-ho. With a switch-switch here, and a switch-switch there, And here a switch and there a switch and everywhere a switch-switch, Old Missouri had a mule, he-hi-he-hi-ho. Old Missouri had a mule, he-hi-he-hi-ho, And on this mule there were two heels, he-hi-he-hi-ho. With a kick-kick here, and a kick-kick there, Here a kick and there a kick and everywhere a kick-kick, Old Missouri had a mule, he-hi-he-hi-ho. Sung by Mr. H. F. Walker, Missouri, 1922. Vance Randolph, Ozark Folksongs, 1980, vol. 3, no. 458, pp. 212-213. |
Subject: RE: Req: Old McDonald / Old Mac Donald Had a Farm From: GUEST Date: 07 Feb 05 - 05:55 PM Seamus, you gotta post your "Old McDonald's deformed farm" |
Subject: RE: Req: Old McDonald / Old Mac Donald Had a Farm From: Lighter Date: 07 Feb 05 - 05:56 PM Thomas D'Urfey's comic opera, "Wonders of the Sun; or, The Kingdom of the Birds," was first published in 1706. The song, more highbrow but similar in several ways to "Old MacDonald," appears on pp. 50-51. |
Subject: RE: Req: Old McDonald / Old Mac Donald Had a Farm From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 07 Feb 05 - 06:32 PM Masato posted the song from D'Urfey in thread 63612. More highbrow? The verse with 'here he wooe, there he wooe,' etc. doesn't fit into my purview of 'highbrow'. I posted Merry Green Fields and Old Missouri in that same thread; I apologise for the double posting. MacDougal MacDonald |
Subject: RE: Req: Old McDonald / Old Mac Donald Had a Farm From: Kaleea Date: 08 Feb 05 - 03:15 AM This has got to be the most well known Polka of all time! But I don't recall Lawrence Welk playing it on his show much. I know there are other "E-I-O-" type Polkas, too and I recall playing the E I O Polka (or something like that) in a Polka band when I lived up north in MinnNEEsoTUH. Would this be of Polish origin? Or German? Or ?? |
Subject: RE: Req: Old McDonald / Old Mac Donald Had a Farm From: GUEST Date: 08 Feb 05 - 08:48 AM I remember in the 60s in my student days we sang a different chorus, and put actions to it: Old McDonald had a farm, E-i ei o And on that farm he had some bulls, E-i ei o And the bulls were bulling it here And the bulls were bulling it there Bulling it here, bulling it there Bulling it everywhere Old McDonald had a farm, E-i ei o. continued with cows were cowing it here, rams were ramming it here, etc. . |
Subject: RE: Req: Old McDonald / Old Mac Donald Had a Farm From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 08 Feb 05 - 01:33 PM EIO polka? I don't come from polka country, but I remember a lot of names, from "Beer Barrel" to "Under the Double Eagle." EIO is new to me, so I checked the AMG list of recordings. Of named polkas, the "Strip Polka" had 45 covers, the "Victory" 8, "Emilia" 6, and "EIO" 4. (Never heard of the "Strip Polka" either, so I guess I'm not qualified to comment). The "Strip Polka" is in the Digital Tradition Mirror with music and lyrics; EIO is not. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald / Old MacDonald Had a Farm From: Joe Offer Date: 21 Feb 05 - 01:21 AM Since he couldn't get a good e-mail copy of it to me, Q snailmailed me a photocopy of the page from Tommy's Tunes that had the tune for Ohio. The envelope had the coolest selection of whale stamps on it, so I'm doubly grateful. Thanks, Q. -Joe Offer- Click to play |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald / Old MacDonald Had a Farm From: GUEST,anonanonanon Date: 21 Feb 05 - 08:27 AM I recall once hearing: Old MacDonald was dislexic I E I E A ....??? and a whole lot of other medical conditions; pretty tasteless, but hilarious at the time. Any one recall it? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald / Old MacDonald Had a Farm From: wildlone Date: 21 Feb 05 - 01:55 PM I once heard this version Sennex Macdonald habeat fundum, E I E I O ! Et in hic fundum habeat bovum, E I E I O ! "Moo Moo !" hic "Moo Moo !" ubi Hic "Moo " Ubi "Moo !" Ubique "Moo Moo !" Sennex MacDonald habeat fundum E I E I O ! Sennex Macdonald habeat fundum, E I E I O ! Et in hic fundum habeat canem, E I E I O ! "Woof Woof !" hic "Woof Woof !" ubi Hic "Woof " Ubi "Woof !" Ubique "Woof Woof !" "Moo Moo !" hic "Moo Moo !" ubi Hic "Moo " Ubi "Moo !" Ubique "Moo Moo !" Sennex MacDonald habeat fundum E I E I O ! Sennex Macdonald habeat fundum, E I E I O ! Et in hic fundum habeat porcus, E I E I O ! "Oink Oink !" hic "Oink Oink !" ubi Hic "Oink " Ubi "Oink !" Ubique "Oink Oink !" "Woof Woof !" hic "Woof Woof !" ubi Hic "Woof " Ubi "Woof !" Ubique "Woof Woof !" "Moo Moo !" hic "Moo Moo !" ubi Hic "Moo " Ubi "Moo !" Ubique "Moo Moo !" Sennex MacDonald habeat fundum E I E I O ! dave |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald / Old MacDonald Had a Fa From: GUEST,bored Date: 21 Feb 05 - 09:47 PM You don't say. See every other thread on this song here for the same briefly amusing parody. Why should this new thread, started by the original Man who can't be bothered to use a Search Engine, lack the same pointless repetition? |
Subject: ADD Version: Sweet Fields of Violo From: Joe Offer Date: 22 Feb 05 - 02:01 AM Well, I dunno. Q and I have had a good time finding versions of "Old MacDonald," and I've enjoyed singing it many times more than I've sung a number of songs. The other thread was mostly UK versions - and until this thread, nobody had posted the "standard" version I learned as a kid.. Here's a version from Louise Pound's American Ballads and Songs (1922, 1950). 120 SWEET FIELDS OF VIOLO How happy I was on my father's farm, Sweet fields of Violo, Tending to my father's horses That I fed in the barns of Violo. And a gee ho here and a gee ho there, Here a gee and there a gee, and O pretty maids, won't you come and go with me To the sweet fields of Violo! How happy I was on my father's farm, Sweet fields of Violo, Tending to my father's cows That I milked in the yards of Violo. And a suke, suke here, and a suke, suke there, Here a suke and there a suke, and A gee ho here and a gee ho there, Here a gee and there a gee, and O pretty maids, won't you come and go with me To the sweet fields of Violo! How happy I was on my father's farm, Sweet fields of Violo, Tending to my father's pigs That I fattened in the pens of Violo. And a boo hoo here and a boo hoo there, Here a boo and there a boo, and A suke suke here and a suke suke there, Here a suke and there a suke, and A gee ho here and a gee ho there, Here a gee and there a gee, and O pretty maids, won't you come and go with me To the sweet fields of Violo! How happy I was on my father's farm, Sweet fields of Violo, Tending to my father's sheep That ran in the vales of Violo. And a bleat bleat here, and a bleat bleat there, Here a bleat and there a bleat, and A boo hoo here and a boo hoo there, Here a boo and there a boo, and A suke suke here and a suke suke there, Here a suke and there a suke, and A gee ho here and a gee ho there, Here a gee and there a gee, and O pretty maids, won't you come and To the sweet fields of Violo! How happy I was on my father's farm, Sweet fields of Violo, Tending to my father's geese That swam in the ponds of Violo. With a shoo shoo here and a shoo shoo there, Here a shoo and there a shoo, and A bleat bleat here and a bleat bleat there, Here a bleat and there a bleat, and A boo hoo here and a boo hoo there, Here a boo and there a boo, and A suke suke here and a suke suke there, Here a suke and there a suke, and A gee ho here and a gee ho there, Here a gee and there a gee, and O pretty maids, won't you come and go with me To the sweet fields of Violo! How happy I was on my father's farm, Sweet fields of Violo. Tending to my father's chickens That laid in the nests of Violo. A cackle cackle here and a cackle cackle there, Here a cackle, there a cackle, and A shoo shoo here and a shoo shoo there, Here a shoo and there a shoo, and A bleat bleat here and a bleat bleat there, Here a bleat and there a bleat, and A boo hoo here and a boo hoo there, Here a boo and there a boo, and A suke suke here and a suke suke there, Here a suke and there a suke, and A gee ho here and a gee ho there, Here a gee and there a gee, and O pretty maids, won't you come and go with me To the sweet fields of Violo! Pound's notes:
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Subject: Lyr Add: SENEX MACDONALDUS From: Frank Maher Date: 22 Feb 05 - 08:23 AM Sensational new discoveries have been made at an archaeological dig at the site of a Roman army camp near Hadrian's Wall. When the legions were evacuated, orders were sent out to destroy all valuable military records. However, in the far-flung camps, lazy army bureaucrats simply pitched all the files into the nearest bog. Now archaeologists are recovering all the records, preserved in the highly tannic bog water. Among the latest discoveries is what appears to be a Latin translation of a Pictish folk-song. No doubt the lonely legionaries on sentry duty on the wall heard the melodic strains drifting on the wind from the Pictish encampments to the north. Roman soldiers must have learned this traditional Pictish melody, which is the earliest folksong recorded in the British Isles. Of particular interest is the chorus of syllabic vocables, remarkably similar to the Gaelic walking song which is not found in written records until almost 1000 years later. In fact, a remarkable similar chorus of vocables: I\ aigh i\ aigh o\ can be found in a walking song from Skye, "Tha baile aig sean-Mhac a' Domhnuill", in the Frances Tolmie collection. Following is a transcription of the original manuscript: Senex Macdonaldus habebat fundum, EIEIO Et in ille fundum habebat porces, EIEIO Cum oink oink hic, oink oink hoc Oink hic, oink hoc, ubique oink oink Senex Macdonaldus habebat fundum, EIEIO Senex Macdonaldus habebat fundum, EIEIO Et in ille fundum habebat boves, EIEIO Cum moo moo hic, moo moo hoc Moo hic, moo hoc, ubique moo moo Senex Macdonaldus habebat fundum, EIEIO Senex Macdonaldus habebat fundum, EIEIO Et in ille fundum habebat oves, EIEIO Cum baa baa hic, baa baa hoc Baa hic, baa hoc, ubique baa baa Senex Macdonaldus habebat fundum, EIEIO Senex Macdonaldus habebat fundum, EIEIO Et in ille fundum habebat anates, EIEIO Cum quack quack hic, quack quack hoc Quack hic, quack hoc, ubique quack quack Senex Macdonaldus habebat fundum, EIEIO |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald / Old MacDonald Had a Farm From: GUEST,McDonald Descendent Date: 17 Aug 05 - 04:35 AM Here's my two cents... Just back from a family history trip to Sioux City, Iowa, where I was informed that back in the late-1800's, my great-great-grandfather John McDonald, who owned a large farm, and also served as sheriff of Sioux City for a span of several years (1871-1879), hosted a man from New York on his farm for several days. After the visitor returned to New York, he supposedly wrote a song about "the farm" he had visited, and that's where the present-day version originated...IF you believe in oral family history. Add to that, my 11 year old son's belief ;-) that the chorus "Ee-I-Ee-I-O" was at some time in the past cut short from the original "Ee-I-Ee-I-Owa", thus connecting the song with its Iowa roots. Of course, I've seen others on the internet claiming similar connections to the song, but this one's new to me so I thought I'd throw it out there for others to comment on... |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald / Old MacDonald Had a Farm From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 17 Aug 05 - 07:59 PM Interesting. The song "Ohio," in Tommy's Tunes" and the other MacDonalds-Macdougals had to come from somewhere. No one seems to have located any early sheet music. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald / Old MacDonald Had a Farm From: Cluin Date: 17 Aug 05 - 08:15 PM The farmer takes the wife, The farmer takes the wife, He bends her over the milking stool The farmer takes the wife. I used to specialize in ruining kids songs for parents. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald / Old MacDonald Had a Farm From: kendall Date: 13 Sep 06 - 07:25 AM I like Seamus Kennedy's version better than any. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald / Old MacDonald Had a Farm From: Flash Company Date: 13 Sep 06 - 10:14 AM My pal at the last place I worked before retirement said that his 5yr old daughter Sophie came home from school and said 'We've been learning to spell today' He said 'How do you spell farm?' Reply 'E I E I O' Having met the child I can believe it! FC |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald / Old MacDonald Had a Farm From: GUEST,Rudi Date: 14 Oct 06 - 11:06 PM I have recently found a book of Kate Smith's 100 most popular songs published in 1933 and it has the title written as OLD MAC DONALD. This split of Mac and Donald is also noted in the lyrics. So, is it Mr. Mac Donald, Mac being his given name and Donald as his last name? Just more fuel to the fire? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald / Old MacDonald Had a Farm From: Jim Dixon Date: 16 Oct 06 - 06:37 PM Music publishers are not known for good spelling. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Old McDonald / Old MacDonald Had a Farm From: GUEST,A.Airey Date: 03 Apr 08 - 08:52 PM Since I was little I was told I had an great-great uncle who was a composer. I was also told he wrote the Marine Corp Hymn and Old McDonald. His name was L. Z. Phillips. I never saw the score from Old McDonald, but my mother said she saw it 30+ years ago when she married my father. My grandmother supposedly had it until her death, but I never found it. I have one Aunt who said she would look for it. I don't know if it is a wild goose chase or this really exists. There isn't much information on L.Z. Has anyone crossed over it in there searches? |
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