BS: The Universe is Not Broken

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 03:41 PM

wow...you see what starting OFF with a Big Bang will do?

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: mg
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 03:37 PM

well I will start another thread called Heric sings the blues and we can think some more on this situation. mg

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: Amos
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 03:33 PM

Definitions of broken:

physically and forcibly separated into pieces or cracked or split; or legally or emotionally destroyed; "a broken mirror"; "a broken tooth"; "a broken leg"; "his neck is broken"; "children from broken homes"; "a broken marriage"; "a broken heart"
www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn


not continuous in space, time, or sequence or varying abruptly; "broken lines of defense"; "a broken cable transmission"; "broken sleep"; "tear off the stub above the broken line"; "a broken note"; "broken sobs"
www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn


subdued or brought low in condition or status; "brought low"; "a broken man"; "his broken spirit"
www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn


(especially of promises or contracts) having been violated or disregarded; "broken (or unkept) promises"; "broken contracts"
www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn


The Universe is certainly brought low in condition, being condensed into the kind of mindless materiality and entropic apathy that characterizes the most beaten down states of mind.

But that's why it is the material universe, after all!


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: just john
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 03:20 PM

I generally mean it to be the opposite of "functional." Thus, a car with its doors welded shut and its engine welded into one piece would be "broken," even though it was less divided than it had been when it was working.

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 03:05 PM

Broken means divided, that's all. Although, it implies that something has been divided in a way that is considered undesirable from someone's point of view.

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: just john
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 03:03 PM

Can blue men sing the whites, or are they hypocrites ...

"Broken" is subjective, relying on an assumption of an object's purpose. F'rinstance: To one person it's a big, leaky can. To another person, it's a perfectly good percussion instrument.

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 02:53 PM

Actually, I think the Universe is broken, since it is masquerading as an illusory state of separation of trillions of different apparently separate things. You could call that broken.

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: GUEST, heric
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 02:50 PM

Thanks, Don T. Yes, Mary, that would be a wonderful solution but for the custody war. (The parents are far distant, but I do have a sibling near them.) (Revenue from alimony perhaps? hmmmm..... No, I guess it wouldn't work that way.)

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: Amos
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 02:47 PM

Mary:

Great plan; whence revenue?

A

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: mg
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 02:34 PM

Heric..you have got a plateful I must say. Are your parents nearby? I would consider taking the son out of the special education school, homeschooling him for the rest of the school year, taking him with you to assist your elderly parents. Being with you might do more for him that 10 inadequate schools. See that you visit museums, historical sites, see sporting events, work math into everything (such as looking at your parents estate/finances). COuld work. mg

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 02:17 PM

If it ain't broke, don't fix it...........simple.

heric, of course you can sing the blues.....but how will you find the time? Seriously man, you have my sympathy. Alongside of that lot my life is a bed of roses.

DT

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: GUEST, heric
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 02:09 PM

I just lost my job. I have massive financial responsibilities, not the least of which is defending myself constantly in family court from a perpetual custody battle (war). My kid has failed miserably in middle school so I have agreed to let him go to a school for the learning disabled that I have been fighting against to the tune of thousands of dollars. It costs nearly two thousand a month. It will require me to drive 500 miles per week, just for that, never mind getting the other one to school. My very aged parents are now both in failing health. At least I know that the universe is unfolding as it should. I've got that going for me. sheesh. Can a white middle class guy sing the blues?

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: Amos
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 02:07 PM

I think in BWL's universe, everyone has a name and is happy to use it.

A

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 01:48 PM

You live in a universe that isn't totally fucked? What planet are you on then, Bee-dubya-ell?

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: Amos
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 01:48 PM

Entropy, the tendency of any system to dissipate to a state of zero order, is always offset by the addition of new energy and new order. As far as I know the only available source for either is non-material, anti-entropic intentionality generated by beings.

But that's just me. :D


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 01:46 PM

If the Sun were to explode tomorrow and make cinders of everything out to the orbit of Mars, the Universe would remain unbroken. But my Universe would be totally fucked.

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 01:20 PM

My professor of thermodynamics had two cats, Entropy and Enthalpy. Entropy of course was the female. As all thermodynamicists know, entropy at best stays constant but tends to increase.

Subject: RE: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 01:16 PM

it's not broken, but it is full of entropy...........as we all are...

Subject: BS: The Universe is Not Broken
From: GUEST,Soma
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 12:59 PM

I am a part of the Univers and therfore also not broken.

Soma