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Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull

GUEST,Proud Curd cheese.cake@ yah...com 16 Mar 05 - 10:08 AM
GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com 16 Mar 05 - 09:32 AM
GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz kir@yahoo.com 16 Mar 05 - 09:07 AM
Hand-Pulled Boy 15 Mar 05 - 08:54 PM
GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz kir@yahoo.com 15 Mar 05 - 06:18 PM
GUEST 15 Mar 05 - 06:13 PM
GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz kir@yahoo.com 15 Mar 05 - 05:30 PM
GUEST 15 Mar 05 - 04:27 PM
oombanjo 15 Mar 05 - 04:21 PM
Sttaw Legend 15 Mar 05 - 02:19 PM
Oaklet 15 Mar 05 - 01:40 PM
GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz kir@yahoo.com 15 Mar 05 - 12:22 PM
GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz kir@yahoo.com 15 Mar 05 - 06:00 AM
GUEST,jOhn 14 Mar 05 - 07:47 PM
GUEST 14 Mar 05 - 07:40 PM
GUEST,jOhn 14 Mar 05 - 07:09 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 14 Mar 05 - 06:47 PM
GUEST 14 Mar 05 - 12:07 PM
GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com 14 Mar 05 - 12:05 PM
Dave Hanson 14 Mar 05 - 05:06 AM
Oaklet 13 Mar 05 - 06:06 PM
GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com 13 Mar 05 - 04:51 PM
Hand-Pulled Boy 13 Mar 05 - 08:05 AM
Oaklet 13 Mar 05 - 07:26 AM
greg stephens 13 Mar 05 - 05:18 AM
greg stephens 13 Mar 05 - 05:16 AM
GUEST 13 Mar 05 - 04:41 AM
GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com 12 Mar 05 - 08:46 PM
GUEST 12 Mar 05 - 05:18 PM
GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com 12 Mar 05 - 04:51 PM
greg stephens 12 Mar 05 - 11:05 AM
GUEST,Flopsy Bunny 12 Mar 05 - 05:27 AM
Hand-Pulled Boy 12 Mar 05 - 05:14 AM
GUEST 11 Mar 05 - 06:16 PM
oombanjo 11 Mar 05 - 04:06 PM
GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com 11 Mar 05 - 11:30 AM
Sttaw Legend 11 Mar 05 - 04:08 AM
Paco Rabanne 11 Mar 05 - 03:58 AM
GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com 10 Mar 05 - 12:38 PM
greg stephens 10 Mar 05 - 08:44 AM
Paco Rabanne 10 Mar 05 - 03:34 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 09 Mar 05 - 08:01 PM
GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com 09 Mar 05 - 07:26 PM
GUEST,jOhn 09 Mar 05 - 07:06 PM
GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com 08 Mar 05 - 05:55 PM
oombanjo 08 Mar 05 - 03:15 PM
greg stephens 08 Mar 05 - 02:50 AM
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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hu
From: GUEST,Proud Curd cheese.cake@ yah...com
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 10:08 AM

I'm a bit lemony with a puff pastry crust.
    OK, I think it's time to close the thread. If you want a serious discussion of Kurdish music, that's fine. If you want to squabble about personal differences, take it somewhere else.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 09:32 AM

Pulled boy - you will know me in the street of Hull becaus i have a large pointy head were i keep my underpants on.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz kir@yahoo.com
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 09:07 AM

Pulled Boy- i dont know what you are talking about.
any way if we swear in English that means that we have learned how to from people like you. also i understan why you been resist or i better call it your love to your country as i dont think people who dont like us are resist that show me how much you people love your country and i respect you, you have a right to not be happy when im in your country. but some of you Pulled Boy dont understand who you been resist you just think that we get every thing for free or some other shet, but hey let me tell you be carful of eastern Europeans as they are a bit dudgy, and i havent told them to come to UK, at the moment we have been effected by eastern Europeans, Kurdish people are losing thier jobs because of them i support you and we are with you.
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Kurdish people are good for UK as they are all working whene ther is job and pay tax and INI for your people. we are helping UK at the seam time UK is helping uk we thank UK and the people of UK.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 08:54 PM

Some of you foreigners swear worse than Hull women. You should be ashamed of yourselves.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz kir@yahoo.com
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 06:18 PM

GUEST Hey man Im staying here if you like it or not, so it is your problem and you have to live with it.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 06:13 PM

kurd, fuck off back where you came from


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz kir@yahoo.com
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 05:30 PM

I dont know why you people want to stop me saying what i want to say or what i feel, if you dont want to know the truth dont listen.
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Sttaw Legend- Saddam is gone Saddam did to Kurds what Natzis did to Jows. saddam did that to Kurds because we are that kind of people who wants the truth and justice. we say what we fell is right every where. in this case some of people are actting like saddam and wants to stop me talk and tell the truth. but hey saddam couldnt stop us talking so you have to forget about keeping me quiate.
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Oaklet- you welcome my friend.
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I have been kicked out of Iraq because i have a big mouth,
i thought this is the land of free speach and freedom.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 04:27 PM

And every time you say that it comes floating back up again. Duhhhhhhh.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: oombanjo
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 04:21 PM

Should this .urd be spelt with a T. and flushed. there is onlY one way to stop this, as I said earlier, FLUSH THE .URD. DON'T POST AND ITS GONE.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 02:19 PM

If Saddam Hussein married Miss Muffet would he let the Kurds have their way?


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Oaklet
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 01:40 PM

I'm not bloody surprised, the way you carry-on.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz kir@yahoo.com
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 12:22 PM

hey dont use my name and tell John i love you or any shet. who ever you are.

heu john i dont care if you want to know my phone number. wow you scared me! hahahaha

hey John you are full of shet you are pushing your self n#into it, i dont know you at all and i dont care to know who you are,

No body ever will know me .


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz kir@yahoo.com
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 06:00 AM

i love you john. i think you are right and i talk shit.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 07:47 PM

who cares?
don't drag up shit from the past, the ivor bigging stuff is closed.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 07:40 PM

who was ivor bigginin?


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 07:09 PM

please close this thread, its a load of trouble making bullshit,
anyway=
i heard that they can find out who it is, beasece of every time people post, therir phone number goes to mudcat, so geff and joe and max can see it, but not others, if so, then please say who it is.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 06:47 PM

This threwad is pissing me off, I know Ted and Nahro, i wonder who is making this bullshit thread?

I
it is making all hull people suspicious, ie= I even thought is it Grweg Stephens?, [he saying "greg is good, Greg knows all about this stuff etc, "greg is the only nice man on this thread etc"}

now i know its not grweg, but greg thinks its Ted, it isent, why would Ted say bad stuff about his self then?


Its some bullshit bastard with a grudge against Ted [and Haro, [and me],
i talked to ted, and he used to live in Park Grove, [not Oak Grove],
and i didn;t know that till he told me, .
So that means it is someone who ted knows, but had an argue with or something, and he deciceded to case trouble, ["ted is rich, but only giv 5 pound to kurdish music charity etc"]


anyway=whoever startede this thread= fuck off and get lost, and stop trying to make trouble.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 12:07 PM

With noodles or rice?


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 12:05 PM

Çßá ÎÑÉ íÇ ÇÈä áÚÇåÑÉ íÇ ÇæáÇÏ ÇáäÇÞÕÇÊ íÇ æÌæÉ ÇáÖÝÏÚ ÈØæäßã ãäÝæÎÉ æ ÚÞæáæßã ÝÇÑÛÉ æ ÔÑÝßã ãÝÊæÍ áÇí æÇÍÏ íÇ Çåá ÇáØÈá æ ÇáãÒãÇÑ


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 05:06 AM

We don't think Kurdish people are stupid but you are if you think we believe the shit you write, Proud Kurd my arse.

eric


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Oaklet
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 06:06 PM

And we've all being hanging on to your every word. Is it only two weeks? Oh my giddy aunt!


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 04:51 PM

becuse i have been writing this for 2 weeks and making sure that every body will understan it, you still think Kurdish people are stuped and cannot write English.

thank you.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 08:05 AM

Realio - you're it!


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Oaklet
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 07:26 AM

100!


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in H
From: greg stephens
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 05:18 AM

Ihave beleived so far that PKR is genuine. Now I am not so sure, I think he is Flamenco Ted.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in H
From: greg stephens
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 05:16 AM

PKR: why is your English much better in your latest post?


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 04:41 AM

This thread is not helping anyone, its time to close it.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com
Date: 12 Mar 05 - 08:46 PM

This Flamenco Ted who is a friend of Nahro and is a good man because he gave an instrument to an asylum seeker, is he the same Ted who used to call us all "a bunch of towel heads" when he did not think I knew English? If it is him I know him. And a rich man giving £5.00 to a charity is nothing special. Is he the Ted who tried to destroy an asylum seekers' Christmas party when he said he would not play 1 week before the party? He is not with the Kurdish people. Maybe he thinks people will think he is a good man if he plays music with foreign people.

Greg is right when he says people do not know what Kurdish music is. You can change English folk music because everyone knows what English folk music is. Most English people hear a Kurdish musician for the first time and they will think he is Kurdish music, they have not heard other Kurdish music. Our scales are different and we use more modulation in our singing and playing. Again Greg is right that English people do not know when someone is out of tune in Kurdish music. We do know and that is why I speak about the people in Hull who say they are Kurdish musicians.

When an asylum seeker comes to a new country he can invent a new history for himself. Some said they were doctors but they were not. Medicine is science and you can test people. Music is art and you can not test art. If I said I was a teacher at Baghdad University and played music in the best orchestra in Iraq many English people will believe me. If I play Kurdish music badly those people will think I am playing it well. Some Kurdish musicians in Hull say they are respected all over the world when they only started playing music when they came to England. Maybe their English friends have told them to lie about themselves because some English musicians want to play with Kurdish musicians because it makes them look good and makes money. These English say they are helping asylum seekers but they are never there for us when there is a problem. They are only there when there is a party and music. And we know that one of the Kurdish "musicians" in Hull even changed his name when he came to England. You see how an asylum seeker can become a new person very easily?

Believe me, you are dealing with phoney people who have got jobs because they made friends with English people who are musicians. They do not even mix with other Kurdish people anymore, only when they are paid for playing at a party.
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End of the story.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Mar 05 - 05:18 PM

PKR you are talking out of your arse, you say one thing one minute and another the next, and you keep contradicting your self, you need to remember what you have said earlier, liars have to have good memories.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com
Date: 12 Mar 05 - 04:51 PM

greg stephens- I have lots of friends in fine art Instetute in Kurdistan some of them play Oud, violins, conter base, Saz, Drumes all kinds, Piano, etc. even some of the instrument i dont know what they are called in English. all sort of wetern, eastern instrument. but what im saying that i havent seen any of the Kurdish people play it in Hull.
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Some more of my say is comming for all of you specialy for Mr.Ted,


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in H
From: greg stephens
Date: 12 Mar 05 - 11:05 AM

PKR: anybody who has the slightest knowledge f Kurds and their music know that plenty of Kurds play oud, and plenty of Kurds play guitar. Likewise violin. These instruments may not have been traditional to the area in the past, but they are popular now: much like violins in England.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Flopsy Bunny
Date: 12 Mar 05 - 05:27 AM

He is NOT Peter Rabbit.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 12 Mar 05 - 05:14 AM

So who is PKR? I know where my money would go and I'm not normally a betting man but consider just two of his initials..................


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Mar 05 - 06:16 PM

íæ ÆÇ Ýæääí ÇæãÈÇäÌæ


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: oombanjo
Date: 11 Mar 05 - 04:06 PM

I SAID IT ONCE BEFORE STOP FEEDING THE MONKEY AND HE WILL GO ELSWARE FOR HIS BANANAS


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com
Date: 11 Mar 05 - 11:30 AM

flamenco ted belive me know you park grove. how many times did you see and Kurds Play Oud, the arabic instrument?
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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 11 Mar 05 - 04:08 AM

The OUD


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 11 Mar 05 - 03:58 AM

1)IF you are a Kurd, you don't know me.
2) I don't live in oak Grove.
3) I've never been in a "play"
4) The instrument I gave to Nahro was an Oud, not a guitar.

Close, but no cigar! Go away now please Troll.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com
Date: 10 Mar 05 - 12:38 PM

Ted- I know you very well i think and you live in oark grove. you have been calling Kurdish people towel heads, and you dropend from a play in a new years years ago at last minut to not play for kurdish people. and dont tell me that you didnt say that or did that, i know you. hey Ted im Kurdish, or you dont belive Kurdish people can use computers!! or we are towel heads and know nothing?
i dont care if you want to come to this room or not. that is tepical you just run away form the reality.
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Sir jOhn from Hull- you call your self a Sir, i can tell alot about your personality. i didnt insult Nahro or any body else im just saying they know nothing about Kurdish Filk music. i just insulted you because you did insult me first. or is it illigal to say some body is not a good musician!? im free to think what ever i want to think of. you dont desreve to chat to. because you know nothing really.
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greg stephens-no Mr. Greg im not JOhn. and im not insulting my country man but im telling you that when they claim that they play Kurdish folk music no they dont and they know nothing about it.
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who was the one who was saying that give your old instroment to a kurdish man! i want to ask: how many kurdish man play Gitar! mmmmm.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in H
From: greg stephens
Date: 10 Mar 05 - 08:44 AM

F Ted: I am normally an efficient TTroll Spotter( I think), but I disagree with you here, I think our pal PKR is the real thing. I think his brand of English would be difficult to fake, even by the very talented Sir JOhn. You might say that his reference to oombanjo as a M***** F*****r is evidence that he is an aboriginal Hullite in disguise, but I know plenty of Kurds who are masters of English invective and perpared to use it! Anywaay, I am going to try and establish contact via email and see what's what...I will report back. The topic he raises, how people play their own folk music when transplanted to a completely new country, is so interesting that I think we should try and keep this chat going...
But please, Proud Kurdish refugee, if you want people to talk to you and listen to what you say, dont insult your fellow Kurdish musicians. They are doing their best. You can insult Sir JOhn, Flamenco Ted and oombanjo as much as you like, they are used to it. And it would also be good if you joined here as a member of Mudcat, then people could send you Personal Messages(PMs). If you can't understand the instructions, ask on this thread and someone will explain. And if you turn out to be Sir JOhn having a laugh, I will come round and curry you.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 10 Mar 05 - 03:34 AM

Thanks for that jOhn, but I don't know why you bother dude. This fucking thread sums up the worst aspects of mudcat! I think I will abandon this pit of arseholes until this spyware bug is sorted out, and some of the Hullites come back to the forum.
I don't even believe this fucking wanker is a Kurd. Someone, probably from Hull, is pulling our chain jOhn.


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 09 Mar 05 - 08:01 PM

Ted is an architect, and
he never called anyone towel heads

.
ps, i'm in my freind house, [not ted, different freind, ], so i logged in, to prove it was me.


i still think your trying to make trouble, wht are you saying bad things about nahro etc?


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com
Date: 09 Mar 05 - 07:26 PM

GUEST,jOhn- hey man, i dont care what thier familys were doing. my point was i know them long time ago, and i know what skilles they have. i dont care what their familys were doing.
i know the van driver, you mean Ted the one who was calling Kurdish people towel heads. and now he sayes he is a kurdish friend i know some of you very well.
some thing else, i didnt tell you how you are playing because is not my job or i know nothing about english music, so why you are shetting on your self for, im not talking about you!! "strenge".


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 09 Mar 05 - 07:06 PM

Blar, blar,blar
you talking rubbish, like a rubbish person, i talk to you in person exacly like i talk to you on mudcat.

anyway= something else about you = , you said " i know them in kurdistan, and you knoew waht job they do, and know there familys"


who gives a flying fuck waht job they do? !!!

in sessions and folk club s i go to, people have all sorts of jobs , from van driver to bank manager, we not interested in jobs, we interested in music, so just shut up.


another anyway=
waht therer family got to do whith it then?



wehn you play music with people, do you ask theirer job and family details first?


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Proud Kurdish refugee qoz_kir@yahoo.com
Date: 08 Mar 05 - 05:55 PM

greg stephens- the singers you have listed some of them are very good specialy:-
1-Najmadin Gholami singer
2-Tara Jaf
3-Adnan Karim
4-Ayub Ali
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Kamal Muhammed havent heard of him
harp and singer in England havent heard of him
Goran oud in Holland
Khalid Sarkar clarinet(in London?)havent heard of them
Kamkaran group (in Iran, perhaps?). havent heard of them
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about the singers i told you about you can get ther CD's at Bekhal shop, or if you want me to send some to you as a gift to listen to send me the address you want me to send the CD's i will galdly send you them.
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John Evans [jOhn from Hull]
- if you really sow my face you would never say to me to fuck off and for saying that it show me what you are and what personality you have, just like your friends that you try to protect them from the truth. above all that im still not going to tell you to fuck off.OHHH god im not jealous of them i rather be a dog and not be like them.
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oombanjo- you are a reall donky and a M****R F*****R, are you happy now? i didnt want to say that to you but you deserve it.
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The only persone in here who is realistic and understanding is greg stephens, he wants to learn and listen and have a good information, and it is up to him after all if he wants to keep the advise or not,
but some of you dont want to even listen, it is like they have been brean washed. any way keep listening to who ever you want im still not a loser.

thanks for reading


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: oombanjo
Date: 08 Mar 05 - 03:15 PM

Time to stop feeding this donkey and let it go!!!!!


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in H
From: greg stephens
Date: 08 Mar 05 - 02:50 AM

A lot of people(including some on Mudcat) have quite loathsome attitudes to asylum seekers; so it's a nice thing the number of Kurdish (and other nationality) musicians who are currently playing in bands, making beautiful music, using instruments they have been given here by well-wishers. I would urge anyone who has unwanted instruments(or wanted instruments for that matter) to make them available to those in trouble who would like to play them,


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicions & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 07 Mar 05 - 06:01 PM

not sure who he is, but he;s welcome to hull folk club to play some kurdish tunes.

about him saying the kurdish musicians in hull are only interested in making money, thats bullshit, they play in sessions, clubs etc for fun, not to make money.

and he says flamenco ted should mind is business and keep out of it,
Ted is Nahros friend, [and also friend of plenty of local kurdish musicians, ted gave his musical instrument to a kurdish refugee]
so dont say bad things about ted, [or nahro].


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicions & Art in H
From: greg stephens
Date: 07 Mar 05 - 05:53 PM

Hi JOhn..we crossed posts. So who is this guy,eh? Interesting. I didnt really think it was you...but he did use the word "rubbish" so I think he's a follower of yours!


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Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicions & Art in H
From: greg stephens
Date: 07 Mar 05 - 05:49 PM

Proud Kurdish Refugee: you sugested in your other threads(list of messages) that I should listen to Zakariya, Hassan Sharif, Jala, and Diyar. I dont know any of those musicians, but I will certainly take your advice and try to hear them. Do you know where I could find their recordings, in England?
    I should be interested to know what you think of the following musicians, if you know them (I may have got spellings a bit wrong):
Adnan Karim(oud and singer)
Najmadin Gholami singer
Kamal Muhammed singer
(all in Sweden I think)

Ayub Ali singer in Birmingham
Tara Jaf
harp and singer in England
Goran oud in Holland
Khalid Sarkar clarinet(in London?)

Kamkaran group (in Iran, perhaps?).
What do you think of them, would you say they were good or bad?


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