Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From:
Date: 11 Mar 05 - 11:30 AM

flamenco ted belive me know you park grove. how many times did you see and Kurds Play Oud, the arabic instrument?
----------------------------------------------------

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: oombanjo
Date: 11 Mar 05 - 04:06 PM

I SAID IT ONCE BEFORE STOP FEEDING THE MONKEY AND HE WILL GO ELSWARE FOR HIS BANANAS

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Mar 05 - 06:16 PM

íæ ÆÇ Ýæääí ÇæãÈÇäÌæ

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 12 Mar 05 - 05:14 AM

So who is PKR? I know where my money would go and I'm not normally a betting man but consider just two of his initials..................

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,Flopsy Bunny
Date: 12 Mar 05 - 05:27 AM

He is NOT Peter Rabbit.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in H
From: greg stephens
Date: 12 Mar 05 - 11:05 AM

PKR: anybody who has the slightest knowledge f Kurds and their music know that plenty of Kurds play oud, and plenty of Kurds play guitar. Likewise violin. These instruments may not have been traditional to the area in the past, but they are popular now: much like violins in England.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From:
Date: 12 Mar 05 - 04:51 PM

greg stephens- I have lots of friends in fine art Instetute in Kurdistan some of them play Oud, violins, conter base, Saz, Drumes all kinds, Piano, etc. even some of the instrument i dont know what they are called in English. all sort of wetern, eastern instrument. but what im saying that i havent seen any of the Kurdish people play it in Hull.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Some more of my say is comming for all of you specialy for Mr.Ted,

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Mar 05 - 05:18 PM

PKR you are talking out of your arse, you say one thing one minute and another the next, and you keep contradicting your self, you need to remember what you have said earlier, liars have to have good memories.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From:
Date: 12 Mar 05 - 08:46 PM

This Flamenco Ted who is a friend of Nahro and is a good man because he gave an instrument to an asylum seeker, is he the same Ted who used to call us all "a bunch of towel heads" when he did not think I knew English? If it is him I know him. And a rich man giving £5.00 to a charity is nothing special. Is he the Ted who tried to destroy an asylum seekers' Christmas party when he said he would not play 1 week before the party? He is not with the Kurdish people. Maybe he thinks people will think he is a good man if he plays music with foreign people.

Greg is right when he says people do not know what Kurdish music is. You can change English folk music because everyone knows what English folk music is. Most English people hear a Kurdish musician for the first time and they will think he is Kurdish music, they have not heard other Kurdish music. Our scales are different and we use more modulation in our singing and playing. Again Greg is right that English people do not know when someone is out of tune in Kurdish music. We do know and that is why I speak about the people in Hull who say they are Kurdish musicians.

When an asylum seeker comes to a new country he can invent a new history for himself. Some said they were doctors but they were not. Medicine is science and you can test people. Music is art and you can not test art. If I said I was a teacher at Baghdad University and played music in the best orchestra in Iraq many English people will believe me. If I play Kurdish music badly those people will think I am playing it well. Some Kurdish musicians in Hull say they are respected all over the world when they only started playing music when they came to England. Maybe their English friends have told them to lie about themselves because some English musicians want to play with Kurdish musicians because it makes them look good and makes money. These English say they are helping asylum seekers but they are never there for us when there is a problem. They are only there when there is a party and music. And we know that one of the Kurdish "musicians" in Hull even changed his name when he came to England. You see how an asylum seeker can become a new person very easily?

Believe me, you are dealing with phoney people who have got jobs because they made friends with English people who are musicians. They do not even mix with other Kurdish people anymore, only when they are paid for playing at a party.
**************
End of the story.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 04:41 AM

This thread is not helping anyone, its time to close it.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in H
From: greg stephens
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 05:16 AM

PKR: why is your English much better in your latest post?

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in H
From: greg stephens
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 05:18 AM

Ihave beleived so far that PKR is genuine. Now I am not so sure, I think he is Flamenco Ted.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Oaklet
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 07:26 AM

100!

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 08:05 AM

Realio - you're it!

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From:
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 04:51 PM

becuse i have been writing this for 2 weeks and making sure that every body will understan it, you still think Kurdish people are stuped and cannot write English.

thank you.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Oaklet
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 06:06 PM

And we've all being hanging on to your every word. Is it only two weeks? Oh my giddy aunt!

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 05:06 AM

We don't think Kurdish people are stupid but you are if you think we believe the shit you write, Proud Kurd my arse.

eric

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From:
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 12:05 PM

Çßá ÎÑÉ íÇ ÇÈä áÚÇåÑÉ íÇ ÇæáÇÏ ÇáäÇÞÕÇÊ íÇ æÌæÉ ÇáÖÝÏÚ ÈØæäßã ãäÝæÎÉ æ ÚÞæáæßã ÝÇÑÛÉ æ ÔÑÝßã ãÝÊæÍ áÇí æÇÍÏ íÇ Çåá ÇáØÈá æ ÇáãÒãÇÑ

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 12:07 PM

With noodles or rice?

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 06:47 PM

This threwad is pissing me off, I know Ted and Nahro, i wonder who is making this bullshit thread?

I
it is making all hull people suspicious, ie= I even thought is it Grweg Stephens?, [he saying "greg is good, Greg knows all about this stuff etc, "greg is the only nice man on this thread etc"}

now i know its not grweg, but greg thinks its Ted, it isent, why would Ted say bad stuff about his self then?


Its some bullshit bastard with a grudge against Ted [and Haro, [and me],
i talked to ted, and he used to live in Park Grove, [not Oak Grove],
and i didn;t know that till he told me, .
So that means it is someone who ted knows, but had an argue with or something, and he deciceded to case trouble, ["ted is rich, but only giv 5 pound to kurdish music charity etc"]


anyway=whoever startede this thread= fuck off and get lost, and stop trying to make trouble.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 07:09 PM

please close this thread, its a load of trouble making bullshit,
anyway=
i heard that they can find out who it is, beasece of every time people post, therir phone number goes to mudcat, so geff and joe and max can see it, but not others, if so, then please say who it is.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 07:40 PM

who was ivor bigginin?

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 07:47 PM

who cares?
don't drag up shit from the past, the ivor bigging stuff is closed.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From:
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 06:00 AM

i love you john. i think you are right and i talk shit.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From:
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 12:22 PM

hey dont use my name and tell John i love you or any shet. who ever you are.

heu john i dont care if you want to know my phone number. wow you scared me! hahahaha

hey John you are full of shet you are pushing your self n#into it, i dont know you at all and i dont care to know who you are,

No body ever will know me .

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Oaklet
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 01:40 PM

I'm not bloody surprised, the way you carry-on.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 02:19 PM

If Saddam Hussein married Miss Muffet would he let the Kurds have their way?

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: oombanjo
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 04:21 PM

Should this .urd be spelt with a T. and flushed. there is onlY one way to stop this, as I said earlier, FLUSH THE .URD. DON'T POST AND ITS GONE.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 04:27 PM

And every time you say that it comes floating back up again. Duhhhhhhh.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From:
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 05:30 PM

I dont know why you people want to stop me saying what i want to say or what i feel, if you dont want to know the truth dont listen.
-----------------------------------
Sttaw Legend- Saddam is gone Saddam did to Kurds what Natzis did to Jows. saddam did that to Kurds because we are that kind of people who wants the truth and justice. we say what we fell is right every where. in this case some of people are actting like saddam and wants to stop me talk and tell the truth. but hey saddam couldnt stop us talking so you have to forget about keeping me quiate.
-----------------------------------
Oaklet- you welcome my friend.
-----------------------------------
I have been kicked out of Iraq because i have a big mouth,
i thought this is the land of free speach and freedom.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 06:13 PM

kurd, fuck off back where you came from

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From:
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 06:18 PM

GUEST Hey man Im staying here if you like it or not, so it is your problem and you have to live with it.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 08:54 PM

Some of you foreigners swear worse than Hull women. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From:
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 09:07 AM

Pulled Boy- i dont know what you are talking about.
any way if we swear in English that means that we have learned how to from people like you. also i understan why you been resist or i better call it your love to your country as i dont think people who dont like us are resist that show me how much you people love your country and i respect you, you have a right to not be happy when im in your country. but some of you Pulled Boy dont understand who you been resist you just think that we get every thing for free or some other shet, but hey let me tell you be carful of eastern Europeans as they are a bit dudgy, and i havent told them to come to UK, at the moment we have been effected by eastern Europeans, Kurdish people are losing thier jobs because of them i support you and we are with you.
-------------------------------------
Kurdish people are good for UK as they are all working whene ther is job and pay tax and INI for your people. we are helping UK at the seam time UK is helping uk we thank UK and the people of UK.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hull
From:
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 09:32 AM

Pulled boy - you will know me in the street of Hull becaus i have a large pointy head were i keep my underpants on.

Subject: RE: Review: Spurious Kurdish musicians & Art in Hu
From:
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 10:08 AM

I'm a bit lemony with a puff pastry crust.

---

OK, I think it's time to close the thread. If you want a serious discussion of Kurdish music, that's fine. If you want to squabble about personal differences, take it somewhere else.
-Joe Offer-