Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST Date: 16 Jan 13 - 06:29 AM Hi I have been singing this song since I was in Primary school over 40 years ago lol And I know it word for word and the tune hahah feel free to contact me rodstewart866@hotmail.com if you do just use Antonio Antonio as the subject then I'll know it's not spam lol |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Old Fogey Date: 31 Aug 12 - 03:52 PM I think I remember this slightly differently... Calling all Zartians to take a stand. Earthmen, invaders, approach our land. Up and attack to make them draw back, we are all set with our spaceships manned. Calling all Zartians out; calling all Zartians out! |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST Date: 13 Jul 12 - 01:51 PM Im selling some BBC schools music pamphlets on ebay, just search under BBC schools, im magiscot666 |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Looking back in happiness Date: 29 Apr 12 - 10:13 AM Was it perhaps.... Calling all Zartians to take a stand Earthmen invaders approach our land Up and attack to make them draw back We are all set and our spaceships manned. And what about brontosaurus on the trail looking for his dinner, from the same Time and Tune program? Or In the village duckpond standing stagnant by the stepping stones A toad sings lullabies - but that's all I can remember of those 2! |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,parallelgirl Date: 19 Apr 12 - 04:07 AM I remember this from primary school! I will sing it to you, if you're still looking for the tune! parallelgirl _at_ hotmail _dot_com |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: DMcG Date: 03 Apr 12 - 08:20 AM Sorry, Folkinfo. One day I will use the preview. |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: DMcG Date: 03 Apr 12 - 08:18 AM I have copies of the pamphlets from Autumn 1963, Spring 1964, Summer 1964, Spring 1965, and spring 1966. Shouuld I list the siongs to help complete the archive? I have been slacking terribly getting the archive built over at Folkinfo, but, yes, please let us have the indices from the missing booklets. |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Val Tarrant Date: 02 Apr 12 - 10:40 AM I have copies of the pamphlets from Autumn 1963, Spring 1964, Summer 1964, Spring 1965, and spring 1966. Shouuld I list the siongs to help complete the archice? Regards Val Tarrant |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,SylviaH Date: 10 Mar 12 - 03:43 PM Doesn't this all bring back memories of a 1950's childhood. I don't think I have any Celtic blood but my favourites were Road to the Isles and a song to the tune of Dashing White Sargent. I, too, still sing bits of them. Thanks for the reminiscences. I must read more of the comments when I have time. |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,flotsamsky Date: 10 Mar 12 - 02:27 PM To GUEST.SRD Yes I remember the "Newfoundland" song. the first two verses went something like: I's the by that builds the boat and I's the by that sails her I's the by that catches the fish and takes them home to Liza I don't want your rancid fish They're no good for winter I can buy as good as that Down in Bonavista Hip your partner etc. |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,xihymn Date: 29 Jan 12 - 07:02 AM A million thanks to the people who emailed me about The Rain Song. |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,IainC Date: 18 Nov 11 - 08:50 PM In my 7 years at Primary, my 6 years at High School, my 4 years at University, nothing impacted on me more than Singing Together: Rhythm and Melody. My years were 1950 to 1952. I would pay good money for a copy of the pupils' book for any of these years. Does anyone remember the lovely Hebridean songs "Dream Island" and "O Ro Marie Dubh, Turn Ye to Me"?(sp?), and The Minstrel Boy, The Golden Vanity,Men of Harlech etc., etc.What a delight. They've been an enduring and delightful presence in my memory to this my 71st year. |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Alan Date: 13 Sep 11 - 04:00 PM I would love to find a copy of Will Wanderers Win from Spring 1982, I left a message on the Amazon page about the songbook: Amazon "Will Wanderers Win" Spring 1982 Send me a message via Amazon if you can help. Thanks! |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Lindsay Date: 12 Aug 11 - 10:53 AM Has anyone, other than I, ever thought of forming a singing together group/choir? Perhaps I'm just a sad fifty four year old but I remember many of the songs and frequently find myself singing them. Are there other like minded people, in London, who would like to get together and have fun singing these songs? |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,scott Date: 20 Jul 11 - 01:45 PM Im selling singing together, time and tune, music workshop, music makers and music time pamphlets and recordings from 70's,8o's and 90's on ebay now! look under bbc schools, im magiscot666 |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,scott Date: 08 Jul 11 - 12:37 AM selling broadcasts on cd of music workshop stage 1 and music makers, time and tune broadcasts from 70's and some singing together, music time on video, on ebay!! look under 'BBC Schools' im magiscot666@aol.com |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST Date: 08 Jul 11 - 12:14 AM Hi Fliss I just read your post, I would be interested in what bbc books u have in your loft!!LOL, perhaps u can email me magiscot666@aol.com thanks |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,GG Date: 04 Jul 11 - 04:03 AM Hi Has anybody got a list of songs that were in the Singing Together booklets from Summer 1986 Spring and Summer 1987 And Spring and Summer 1988 please as these are the years I am having trouble with finding.Hope somebody can help? |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Guest Date: 16 Jun 11 - 04:19 PM Can anyone recall a song about that Admiral Benbow - with lyrics that differ from that which can be found elsewhere. I particularly recall a line that went ' he taught his sone John, a tanner to be' |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,scott Date: 11 Jun 11 - 05:54 PM just to let people know im selling singing together, time and tune, music workshop, music makers and music time, books and recordings on ebay at the moment, just search for BBC Schools on ebay. If there is something you want but cant see on there, just email me as I do have a large collection! magiscot666@aol.com |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: Waddon Pete Date: 24 May 11 - 04:01 AM Hello Tony, Thank you for sharing your memories with us! Fascinating to read some of the background. Best wishes, Peter |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Tony Orman Date: 23 May 11 - 01:30 PM I am writing this in May 2011. A couple of nights ago I woke up and suddenly asked myself "Are there any mentions on the Internet for William Appleby?" I checked and found this site. I figured you might be interested in my memories of this man who was so much to me in my childhood. I am now 76 and went to Doncaster Grammar School (as it was then called) in 1946 at age 11, leaving in the summer of 1953 at age 18. In 1946 William ("Pip") Appleby was the school's music teacher. He always auditioned new students to check their musical skills. I didn't play an instrument but I had a fairly good soprano singing voice, and he put me in the school choir. I served in the choir the whole time I was at the school, naturally changing in due course from soprano to baritone. While I was still a soprano, Pip asked me to join the Doncaster Schools Choir, which drew from a number of schools in the town (girls and boys schools) and I remained in that until I went to University. We rehearsed every Monday evening during term time, and Pip organized a number of concerts for us to perform each year, some of them outside Doncaster and a number of them in churches. Then he asked me if I would join his small choir which he used for broadcasts on the BBC in the Educational programme "Singing Together". He put out this show every week during term-time, often with soloists. But one week in three we would be shipped to Leeds in a coach to the BBC Studios in Leeds. There he would lecture on the various songs that he wanted to teach the listeners. The latter, of course, were schoolchildren all over the country who would hear it in their classrooms. We would demonstrate singing a few bars at a time of each song, then we would perform the whole song. The BBC studio was a large two-storey room which I think must have been converted from an old Methodist church. Naturally we had rehearsed all these songs back in Doncaster, maybe a couple of times. So I spent a good deal of time in Pip's company over the whole seven years of my secondary education. We sang near a grand piano on the ground floor with Pip conducting from the piano. On the upper floor of the Studio the BBC operatives could see and hear us through a glass window. The programme was broadcast through Post Office landlines to the BBC in London where the show was actually recorded. The big event of the day for us, of course, was not just the singing but the huge tea party with large sugary cakes afterwards, courtesy of the BBC. Some time during these years Pip left the employment of DGS to take up the post of Doncaster Schools Music Advisor — a post that was specially created for him so that he could impart his charismatic talents throughout the whole community. Pip lived in a large three-storey townhouse in Christchurch Road immediately across from the main school entrance. He was a single man. It was not until I was in my 20s that I found out that he personally funded one boy's living expenses so that he was able to attend the school. That student eventually became Head Boy of DGS. Alas his name now escapes me. And what was Pip like? He was small of stature, relatively slim and quite neat to look at. He was a very kindly man whom boys took to as soon as they met him. He was a genius at retaining the interest of children in music of all kinds. A bit of a pied piper you might say. He might seem shy and retiring, but he commanded huge respect from all who knew him. I remember that on three or four occasions at the BBC shows, we worked together with a man who was very handsome and had a fabulous high baritone voice. This man (name forgotten I'm afraid) was clearly a well-known soloist whom Pip had persuaded to sing some songs along with us. This man was almost as much in awe of Pip as we always were as kids. This is not to say that we didn't have other great schoolmasters at DGS, but Pip was a great mentor and we always felt he was a great friend to have in the older generation. I was always proud to be counted among the chosen few whom he took under his wing as a singer. He also created a very small select group, male and female singers, whom he thought worthy not only to sing in programmes with the rest of us, but whom he pushed to go for choral scholarships in Oxford and Cambridge. I was always sad that my voice did not have that degree of quality but it was thrilling to be a small cog in his musical scheme of things. It felt — and still does — like being a member of a very exclusive club: there were never more than about thirteen of us in the BBC choir, for instance, and during my seven years of participation there were very few changes in personnel. I still miss him. Tony Orman Florida, USA |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Nicnic Date: 02 May 11 - 06:14 PM The Rain Song - Someone said they want the tune. I remember the tune after all these years!! I hum it if you want to listen... |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,scott Date: 26 Apr 11 - 10:09 PM check out ebay for many Singing Together books along with Time and Tune, Music Workshop, Music Makers and Music Time(BBC Schools TV) |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,glueman Date: 25 Mar 11 - 06:15 PM My memories of '68, the summer of love when everyone was tuning in, turning on and dropping out was our teacher turning the dial to Singing Together with people who sounded uncannily like Peter Piers and Kathleen Ferrier. That and a 16mm film of the joy of chocolate by Cadbury - complete with free samples - was as far onto the magic bus as my ten year old self ever got. |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Matt Price Date: 25 Mar 11 - 05:59 PM Hi Just to add to Guest Ruth's post: Singing together was, according to Gordon Cox's article 'School music broadcasts and the BBC 1924-;47', published in 1996 in the journal 'History of Education' (25: 4), dreamed up by one Herbert Wiseman in 1939. This is a quote from Wiseman in 1969 (taken from the same article) discussing how the programme started: The date was September 1939, the BBC had all its preparations made for the autumn term's broadcasts - pamphlets were printed for all subjects, including the music lessons.. . . Then came the war, and mass evacuation of children from their homes and schools. They were scattered about the country in small detached groups. The issue of pamphlets was stopped, no systematic class instruction was possible, education had to become an affair of hasty improvisation to meet the new enforced conditions. Then somebody had a brainwave. The children were scattered but even when only two or three were gathered together they could still sing. What about broadcasting a few songs and encouraging all, no matter where they were, to take part. A title for such a series? Oh, easy! Singing Together. And on the 25th of September, a few days after the war had begun, we started the series which has gone on till today. Hope that helps! |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,scott Date: 24 Mar 11 - 10:37 PM Just to let you know that im selling a lot of BBC Schools music pamphlets on ebay, if anyone is interested. If you want anything specific please feel free to email me and we could work something out. magiscot666@aol.com |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: DMcG Date: 20 Mar 11 - 05:08 PM Sorry, Steve but I've bought them! However, no need to worry because my intention is to transcribe them all and host them at www.folkinfo.com along with all the others we have there. Of course, it will take some time ... |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Pat McCarron Date: 19 Mar 11 - 05:26 PM I remember " Singing Together " from primary school in the early sixties. The song I remember best is "Cargoes" by John Masefield.I can still sing part of it. "Blow the wind Southerly" is another one.I think I remember a woman with a big operatic voice singing some of the songs. |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: Steve Shaw Date: 06 Mar 11 - 06:34 PM Sorry, I am that guest. Put 'em up on eBay, Rjik, and I'll enter into a bidding war with DMcG! ;-) |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: DMcG Date: 06 Mar 11 - 05:42 PM I've emailed Rijk becuase I'd certainly be interested |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST Date: 06 Mar 11 - 05:37 PM Are you selling 'em, Rijk? |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Rijk Griffioen Date: 05 Mar 11 - 08:42 PM I'forgotten to mention how you can reach me: rijkgriffioen@hetnet.nl |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Rijk Griffioen Date: 05 Mar 11 - 08:35 PM I have the booklets of Singing Together from Term Autumn 1958 to Spring 1962. Anyone interested? |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,John Street Date: 24 Feb 11 - 12:09 PM Ah, what pleasant distant memories! I'm 67 now but still fondly recall both Singing Together and Rhythm and Melody. My primary school headmaster distributed to us the booklets accompanying these programmes long before the broadcasts were due and had already taught us the words and music by the time the first broadcast occurred. And it was because the songs still keep going through my head even now that I googled the names of the programmes to see what I could find. |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Chris Murray Date: 13 Feb 11 - 06:43 AM I bought a book of some of the songs a few years ago but can't find it. However, if you go onto Amazon, they seem to have several of the original booklets for sale. |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST Date: 13 Feb 11 - 06:36 AM "Ian, I don't know who started it, or anything about the stages etc, but do remember William Appleby, whose name appears on the book of songs published under the title of Singing Together and was certainly obtainable three years ago. I've just googled his name, and found out that there is a music centre named after him in Doncaster, and there is information printed about him at www.doncastermusicservice.org.uk/dms.htm (sorry - no matter how many times I've tried I just don't seem to be able to negotiate the blue clicky thing!) All I recall is fond memories of sitting down at school in the fifties and singing along to the programme. Thanks to you, I'm probably going to be googling for a bit longer tonight!! (:-)" Yes, I rember William Appleby on the school radio in the 50's so he & the programme must have made quite an impression on me - one of the songs which sticks in the memory was the one about the cook 'with one eye on the pot & the other up the chimney'! |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: Newnham Croft Date: 13 Feb 11 - 03:14 AM I was at primary school in Cambridge in the early 70s and still sing many of the songs today, although many are just fragments and snatches. I remember well the Rain Song and the Zartian one, and Mango Walk which Mr Brooks loved to bash out on the piano, but here are a few verses which may jog memories. The books tended to have themes. There was a sequence about a violin maker in Naples, one song went You can just hear a shout As a boat goes about And goes off on its glittering way Oh look at the sun It's shining all day Something something buying and selling For Naples is busy and gay. Then from the Zartians book there was Where have you been to Peter Over the stars by the Milky Way I caught the moon just waning At the break of day. Finaly there was a great one called The Railway Boggart, written in the wake of Beeching, with overtones of 60s activism (Green Man earth spirit awakes from timeless sleep to save branch line) and the ominous chant They're Closing Down the Bluebell Line . . . |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Midzone 1 Date: 09 Feb 11 - 06:13 PM Just managed to get my hands on an old Singing Together broadcast - it's the final request programme from Spring Term 1979 presented by John Amis. The musical delights include:- Charlie is M'Darling Sir Eglamore The Marigold The Shepherd and His Dog Water Come a Me Eye Auld John Bradleum Chiapenecas It's on an old reel to reel tape but the quality is excellent as my trusty Tandberg revealed. |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 31 Jan 11 - 12:55 PM I mean the hard disk in my brain! |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 31 Jan 11 - 12:54 PM I used to 'do' Singing Together with my pupils in Glasgow in the 1970's. We listened to it on the radio, then a couple of days later had a practice. I had to physically wheel a heavy old, out-of-tune piano along the corridor into my classroom with the help of two lads. The teacher next door used to groan, but the pupils adored the songs. I like to think that, as middle-aged adults, they still have them in their heads and developed a liking for folk songs. Just WHAT do the children learn nowadays I wonder?? The songs were traditional, musically very sound and even instructive. Looking at the lists in these postings, I can remember nearly every one, they must be on my hard disk! |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,dunelmian Date: 31 Jan 11 - 10:31 AM I remember fondly Singing Together at Junior School in the 50s. There was a big, four-legged radio with an aerial which went into the rafters. We had the famous little books and I remember in particular singing 'Polly Oliver' which popped into my head a while ago and which forms one of my repertoire now. Happy days! |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,maud Date: 31 Jan 11 - 09:56 AM I know this song very well, if you want me to hum the melody you can e-mail me: maud94@hotmail.com |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Robin Carmody Date: 18 Jan 11 - 08:46 AM Sarah Hoare - the Mozart programme you're referring to would be the Time & Tune series 'The Young Mozart' from Summer 1987, one of the last things Douglas Coombes did for the BBC - he left the following year, and the whole ethos and style of schools music programmes changed considerably (and of course didn't last too long after that). |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Ruth Date: 31 Dec 10 - 05:59 AM Herbert Wiseman originated the series and it was first broadcast on September 25th 1939, according to the BBC Sound Archives. "Listening figures far outstripped those of other school music broadcasts for example in 1941, Autumn Term, 4100 schools were tuning in." Gordon Cox 2002. Living music in schools 1923-1999 Studies in the History of music education in England. Ashgate Publishing Limited, Adlershot. |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Recorderer Date: 12 Dec 10 - 02:15 PM Hi Ray and Destiny and co, I have the booklets for Autumn 1980, Spring 1981, Summer 1981 (and Spring 1983 which is after I left primary school - probably from a bookshop.)with some of your songs in. I also have the Rumpelstiltskin Music Workshop booklet from 1978 and 1980. Email me at bleakleys@hotmail.com if you would like more info, scans etc assuming it isn't a copyright issue punishable by death. Autumn 1980 Farewell to Funery The Hopak Reap the Flax Captain Nipper Who Did? Kelly the Pirate The Friendly Beasts The Virgin Mary Had a Baby Boy O Sleep my Pretty Baby Rise Up, Shepherd The Gower Wassail Spring 1981 Song of a Country Girl Mountain Dancer The Tortilla Vendor La Cucuracha Here Come the Navvies The Piper o' Dundee Greek Shepherd Song Alnwick Football Song The Mountains I love The Mountain Skier Troika Summer 1981 The Ship that Never Returned The Fireman's Song My White Horse Lewis Bridal Song The Spinning Wheel Angelico The Peanut Vendor Lisa Lan Spring 1983 The Tinker's Wedding Waltzing Matilda Kalinka Cockles and Muscles Swansea Town The Derby Ram Oh, 'twas in the broad Atlantic The Candlelight Fisherman Island in the Sun Marianina My Grandfather's Clock Rumpelstiltskin Words R D Ward, music Peter Hutchings Miller's Song Echo Song sung by Ethel("Verse One: Locked up in this emptiness all alone, Life's become as grey as these walls of stone. Oh, how unkind my fortune seems! Nothing left to comfort me but my dreams. Verse Two: Just myself for company, only me. Words I speak come back to me constantly. I hear the echoes of each sigh. All alone with me, myself and I.") Spinning Song Two-as-One Song Name-Guessing Song Interlude Gloating Song Wedding March Let the Bells Ring I actually found reason to sing some of 'Here Come the Navvies' to my 6th form class of General Studies students during a discussion about migration last week, so you never know when these things will come in handy! What a fantastic legacy for all of us who listened to Singing Together as a starter for folk history and music here and around the world. So glad I didn't return the booklets when my teacher wanted them back - I'm paying back my debt to society many times over now by teaching teenagers and running a recorder club. |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Xi Hymn Date: 02 Dec 10 - 05:50 PM Please, if you do know the tune to The Rain Song, email me at xihymn@gmail.com!
-Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Sarah Hoare Date: 18 Nov 10 - 05:26 PM I definitely remember something with Douglas Coombes and a book about Mozart. Song went "In Salzburg, Austria one winter's night Saw a birth by candle light ......." Chorus Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart Oh the world to hear such joy, music of the wonderboy" Or something like that That was in the 80s in North Humberside. Happy days! |
Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' From: GUEST,Robin Carmody Date: 05 Nov 10 - 10:34 PM Midzone1 upthread - very pleased to hear that clip; how much else (if anything) have you managed to digitise? |
Subject: ADD: The Cricket's Wedding From: GUEST,Murpholly Date: 26 Oct 10 - 10:45 AM As a headteacher my father saved copies of most of Singing Together Books which I still possess and so Autumn Term 1959 has The Cricket's Wedding (which was actually Rhythm and Melody Section). Is this the one you are searching THE CRICKET'S WEDDING O the cricket weds today, the mosquitto's daughter Shufling comes the little louse, best man to the bridegroom Hopping comes the nimble flea for to be the bridesmaid Animals both great and small come as guests invited Second fiddler is the stork with the turkey leading Hornets play the double bass froggy is the flautist Merrily the monkey jumps dancing to the polka While that rogue the old screech owl plays upon the bagpipe And the wolf the butcher man brought six big fat oxen And not satisfied with that also fifty piglets Then the goat she capered in cooked a tasty goulash But before the meal was served lo the cricket vanished |
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