Kathy and Carol???

Subject: Kathy and Carol???
From: harpgirl
Date: 06 Dec 98 - 09:18 PM

Dale,
I have the Kathy and Carol album you mentioned in the Vinyl thread. Are there any more? Who were they and what are they doing now? It is one of my favorite records...harpgirl (maybe Art knows them or someone who lives in California)

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: Dale Rose
Date: 06 Dec 98 - 10:14 PM

I think that was it, though I know Carol McComb has been active in music since then, and has at least one CD available. (I saw one up in St. Louis, I think) A quick ProFusion search turned up a great many references, including a book at Amazon, Country & Blues Guitar for the Musically Hopeless. People Finder located four Carol McCombs, including two in California, and I would almost bet that one of them was her. Kathy Larisch? I don't know. ProFusion came up completely empty. Since they were California girls, I would guess that Joe or someone else out that way would be the one who would know.

My album is dated October 29, 1965, a practice I gave up long ago.

Oh, here is another mention, Steve Seskin/Carol McComb/Nina Gerber, Freight 8:30pm 510-548-1761, that's Freight & Salvage, San Francisco on January 31.

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: Art Thieme
Date: 06 Dec 98 - 11:57 PM

I love that Kathy & Carol LP! Wore mine out years ago & just found a pristine used copy.

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: Dale Rose
Date: 07 Dec 98 - 12:41 AM

I have to confess, I really had not listened to the album in probably 10 years, but I am on my second listening tonight. Everything there is still bright and fresh~~if anything, I might even like it better now than when I bought it back in 1965. Not every album or song stands that test of time, ya know.

For those of you who need to rush right out and dig through the used record bins, it is Kathy & Carol, Elektra 7289 stereo, (mine is 289, mono),1965. Both were 20 when they recorded this, apparently their only album.

Art, so do you know either of them, or did they stick so close to the coast that you never ran into them?

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: Barbara
Date: 07 Dec 98 - 01:17 AM

Carol has taught for years at Puget Sound Guitar Workshop. I b'lieve she still lives in Northern California someplace. She's a friendly, matter of fact sort of person, very nice. I took a class from her in different styles of harmony chords, and it was fascinating. She sang there with Kathy Kallick, is this the same Kathy as the one on the record? I've never heard this record, but it sounds neat.
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: Dale Rose
Date: 07 Dec 98 - 02:57 PM

No, different Kathy. I have recordings of Kathy Kallick, but this is Kathy Larisch, whom we seem not to be able to find anything about, though I suppose it is really not our business what she is doing nowadays for all that.

The album has songs that for the most part were not overdone when it was recorded, and still aren't~~Sprig of Thyme, George Collins, The Blacksmith, Fair Beauty Bright, Green Rocky Road, The Grey Cock, Wondrous Love, Carter's Blues, Lady Maisry, Brightest And Best, Gold Watch And Chain, Just A Hand To Hold. It was a good many years before I heard the Carter Family version of Carter's Blues, and I still prefer Kathy & Carol's version, and that would be praise of the highest order, coming from me.

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: Art Thieme
Date: 07 Dec 98 - 05:20 PM

Kathy Kallick is the daughter of Dodi Kallick of Chicago who was a fine folksinger around town in the 50s and 60s--70s too. Dodi Kallick had/has simply wonderful phrasing---and I always marvelled at how much of that was passed on to her daughter--even when a teeny-bopper. Kathy Kallick is a mainstay of the band THE GOOD OLD PERSONS.

(Kathy Kallick, if you're out there, how's your mom doing?? You too!!?? Much water over the proverbial dam/waterfall! But the river sure has been scenic---some danger too---all of it glorious!)

Dale, no, I never did run into Ms. McComb. After our Oregon fling we went back to the midwest

Harp, if you can wait until I get stuff unpacked (we have yet to move) I'll be sure to get a cassette of Kathy & Carol's LP off to you.

Art

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: harpgirl
Date: 07 Dec 98 - 05:32 PM

way cool to learn more about these women...that album inspired me so much. I loved George Collins and Wondrous Love and the autoharping...wish they had made more..Art, I do have the album and when the turntable is fixed I can copy it, so thanks but you don't hafta..ladyharpgirl

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: harpgirl
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 05:33 PM

for guest, judy

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: Art Thieme
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 09:01 PM

Kath Kallick is about to issue (if she hasn't already) what should be a fine CD of the songs her mother sang. It will include Bob Coltman's "Web Of Bird Song". I'm anxious to hear this one.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: GUEST,52.9
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 09:34 PM

I liked her better when she was cohosting the Today show with Brian Gumball.

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: GUEST,??
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 09:54 PM

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Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: rangeroger
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 12:14 AM

When I first read this thread, Carol McComb's name was familiar to me and I too thought the Kathy was Kathy Kallick. As I thought more and more about it,I knew I had a Carol McComb album.Could even picture the cover in my head.

A quick search of my vinyl brought out "Carol McComb and Friends- Love Can Take You Home Again".

The picture of musicians on the back of the cover shows Kathleen Larisch directly behind Carol. Jody Stecher is also listed though not pictured.

Copyright 1975, Bay Records.

I'm listening to it right now. Very very good.

rr

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: harpgirl
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 10:57 AM

what songs are on it rr?

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 07:34 PM

This really makes me want to buy that old Kathy and Carol album on Elektra, which is advertised on the web. I was entranced with them when I worked as a waitress at the AshGrove in the 60's. Now I realize (from all of you) that they were every bit as exceptional as I remembered. I too, thought it was Kathy Kallick, until I hunted further. I'd give anything to know what Kathy Larisch is doing now and why she isn't performing. I suppose one could always e-mail Carol if one found out how.

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: rangeroger
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 09:03 PM

Love Can Take You Home Again: Songs

Side One

1. Running Away (C.McComb)
2.Dreams Are So Hard To Break (C.McComb)
3.Glass Sand Castle (C.McComb)
4.Felton Lonin (trad)
5.Nightingale (C.McComb)
6. I Remember You (Mercer-Schertzinger)

Side Two

1.Woodside (C.McComb)
2. Quiet Joys Of Brotherhood (R.Farina)
3. Maude (C.McComb)
4. Thistle and Thorn (C.McComb),
5. Renaissance (C.McComb)
6.Easter Song (C.McComb)

rr

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: John Hardly
Date: 26 Oct 01 - 10:17 AM

This is wierd----why does this kind of synchronicity happen so much?

Carol has an article in the current (Dec) issue of Acoustic Guitar Magazine---Children's guitars. I hadn't heard of her before and now this thread pops up, and it's NOT because of the article.

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: GUEST,Dale
Date: 26 Oct 01 - 10:45 AM

I think that the key to finding Kathy Larisch (other than contacting Carol McComb as has been mentioned) is in rangeroger's comment, The picture of musicians on the back of the cover shows Kathleen Larisch directly behind Carol.

An internet search for Kathleen Larisch turns up an instructor at California College of Arts & Crafts in Oakland, California. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if that turned out to be her, given the fairly uncommon name.

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: GUEST,Dale
Date: 26 Oct 01 - 10:52 AM

And of course, if Max would pleeeeeeasseee give me back his handy dandy html checker (http://www.mudcat.org/@/@experiment.html), I would not speak in italics when I did not intend to do so.

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: GUEST,nonmember
Date: 21 Oct 02 - 09:45 PM

Hi, I just stumbled on this site searching for the original Kathy and Carol album. No luck to date finding it for sale online used or in any other form. Any suggestions on how to purchase it would be most welcome. I can be reached at [e-mail]. Thanks very much!

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: Mary Katherine
Date: 21 Oct 02 - 10:45 PM

One track from that Elektra LP, "Wondrous Love," has been reissued on CD, on the "Washington Square Memoirs" box set on Rhino.

Also, one live track by them, Richard Farina's "A Swallow Song," recorded at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival, appears on the CD entitled Folk Music At Newport Vol. 1 on Vanguard Records.

In the interests of full disclosure, I produced the latter CD, but do not benefit in any way from its sales. And btw I chose that song for inclusion on the Newport CD partly because it did NOT appear on their only LP, thereby giving fans who already had the vinyl a crack at a different song. There were other recordings from Kathy & Carol's appearance at Newport, and had there ever been a Volume Two of Folk Music at Newport it would have contained "Little Sir Hugh," for the same reason stated: something NOT on the vinyl LP.

Mary Katherine

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: harpgirl
Date: 21 Oct 02 - 11:05 PM

...what I want to know MK is, have you finished the Muddy Waters book yet?

Subject: RE: Kathy and Carol???
From: Mary Katherine
Date: 21 Oct 02 - 11:24 PM

Nope. And probably won't, now that Robert Gordon's Muddy bio has been published.

Mary Katherine