Origins: Methodist Pie

Subject: RE: Origins: Methodist Pie
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 09:42 PM

Incomplete reference to Perrow.
Jour. American Folklore, 1913, [2] vol. 26, pp. 123-173; on line through Mehlberger, www.immortalia.com

Subject: RE: Origins: Methodist Pie
From: GUEST,Barbara
Date: 15 May 05 - 04:22 AM

Do you go by the name Methodist Pie or is this about making an old fashioned pie? Or is this a kind of name for someone. Thank you, I am new on here and do not know. from Barbara

Subject: RE: Origins: Methodist Pie
From: GUEST
Date: 15 May 05 - 08:01 AM

Where I was raised in Northwest Pennsylvania (also known as the Bible Belt or Northern Appalachia) camp meetings were held into the 1930's. Don't know what denomination but they were known as Holy Rollers and we kids being raised as Covenanter Presbyterians (the more dour group) were strictly forbidden to attend. We did however occasionally hide in the bushes to hear the most inspiring shouting and singing. Wish I could have recorded it.

Subject: RE: Origins: Methodist Pie
From: GUEST,ralphdonnac
Date: 22 Jan 09 - 07:07 PM

A good version of the song is by Hylo Brown, included in the 2-cd album "Bluegrass Bible", Rural Rhythm Records. We got ours thru Daedalus Books and Music.

Hope someone comes up with the recipe, if there is such a thing as a Methodist Pie (without cream cheese?).

Subject: RE: Origins: Methodist Pie
From: GUEST,Dith
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 06:58 AM

I think it's something to sing about because it describes perfectly what Methodist fellowship looks like. We all love to sing and eat.

By the way, at my church, we sometimes include liturgical dance in church. It's the Baptists who disallow dancing (still to this day). To my knowledge we never had a problem with it, as we'd always have a counter to the Baptist anti-dancing argument, citing verse after verse describing dance as a way to praise God. Baptists banned dancing because Herod's stepdaughter danced so seductively for him that she was able to talk him into bringing her the head of John the Baptist on a silver platter.

Yeah, Calvinism and Methodism are soooo not the same thing. Wesley had a good bit of theological skirmishes with the Calvinists. And that predestination junk... we aint buying it.

Still, this song is representative of a bygone era of Methodist camp meetings. We were called "shoutin' Methodists" back then because of the way we carried on at our meetings. I'd love to have some of that fire back in our church. It would be great to have an old-fashioned revival.

Subject: RE: Origins: Methodist Pie
From: framus
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 01:44 AM

Anybody ever read "The Christian Agnostic" by Leslie D. Wetherhead?
It could silence a few of the arguments here.

Subject: RE: Origins: Methodist Pie
From: cnd
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 12:28 AM

In the recording of this song by Wilbur Sayles (To God Be the Glory, Hymntime HPS/HWS 2089, c. early 1970s), he sings it differently, singing basically the same first 4 lines of the song as in the DT (click), and then goes into his chorus, which goes:

"Oh, little children, I belie-he-eve
Oh, little children, I belie-he-eve
Oh, little children, I believe
I'm a Methodist till I die
I'm a Methodist, a Methodist, 'tis my belief
I'm a Methodist till I die
And all they can say when they lay me down to rest
Is they laid another Methodist by"

From there he continues on with the remainder of the first stanza as given in the DT, then skips to the next 4 lines of the song.

Aside from that, his version is essentially just a reorganized version of the song, sometimes changing the verses in pairs of two lines instead of 4 lines, but otherwise the same meaning. He also left out the "last chorus" given in the DT.

Subject: RE: Origins: Methodist Pie
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 10:16 AM

From Old Patchwork Quilts by Ruth Finley, published 1929

A Methodist, Methodist I was born
A Methodist I shall die.
I was baptized in the Methodist faith
And ate of the Methodist pie.

She adds "the Methodist pie was always made of chicken"