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BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal

gnu 23 Dec 05 - 05:28 PM
Peace 23 Dec 05 - 05:11 PM
John MacKenzie 23 Dec 05 - 11:43 AM
Gervase 23 Dec 05 - 10:58 AM
JennyO 03 Dec 05 - 07:50 AM
The Shambles 02 Dec 05 - 07:46 PM
The Shambles 02 Dec 05 - 07:43 PM
Big Mick 02 Dec 05 - 06:43 PM
John MacKenzie 02 Dec 05 - 02:59 PM
Bill D 02 Dec 05 - 02:28 PM
George Papavgeris 02 Dec 05 - 07:23 AM
The Shambles 02 Dec 05 - 07:01 AM
George Papavgeris 27 Apr 05 - 09:02 AM
The Shambles 27 Apr 05 - 06:09 AM
Joe Offer 26 Apr 05 - 08:49 PM
The Shambles 26 Apr 05 - 08:29 PM
Chris Green 26 Apr 05 - 08:26 PM
The Shambles 26 Apr 05 - 08:21 PM
Bill D 26 Apr 05 - 07:47 PM
The Shambles 26 Apr 05 - 07:18 PM
Once Famous 13 Apr 05 - 12:00 PM
SINSULL 12 Apr 05 - 11:38 PM
John MacKenzie 12 Apr 05 - 06:27 PM
GUEST 12 Apr 05 - 06:12 PM
Once Famous 12 Apr 05 - 05:59 PM
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The Shambles 10 Apr 05 - 07:29 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: gnu
Date: 23 Dec 05 - 05:28 PM

Into the water? I wouldn't try to tread all this bullshit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Peace
Date: 23 Dec 05 - 05:11 PM

Jaysus, just when ya thought it was safe to go back in the water . . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Dec 05 - 11:43 AM

What were you told about plastering?
G.☺


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Gervase
Date: 23 Dec 05 - 10:58 AM

Sorry about this - I just thought that the Shambles hadn't had much exercise this week, other than growling away on the thead name change thread, so what better way to get him up and jumping than to trot this out?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: JennyO
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 07:50 AM

If you try to refresh any of the other threads on this issue - you will find that they have mostly been subject to imposed closure and that it is not possible to refresh or make any new contributions to them.

Thank goodness for small mercies, is what I say.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: The Shambles
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:46 PM

This one has not been subject to imposed closure - yet.

Double standard or hypocisy


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: The Shambles
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:43 PM

Thanks for all the posts that have pushed this this thread (and this issue with it) back to the top. Yes just ignore me like Mick always posts and says that he does....*Smiles*

reFRESH? from APRIL? lordy, lordy, lordy....you need a hobby that gets you out of the house, Roger.

I didn't refresh this thread Bill - I refeshed it.

If you try to refresh any of the other threads on this issue - you will find that they have mostly been subject to imposed closure and that it is not possible to refresh or make any new contributions to them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Big Mick
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 06:43 PM

This should prove to you the appropriate way to deal with this person. Ignore him, and he will refresh very old threads to get attention. It proves what I have always said. He is a classic troll. This is his bait. Please don't take it. He will now launch into lengthy diatribe and a spate of cut and paste out of context quotes. Please don't feed him.

It is very tempting to delete all posts back to Roger's 'refresh', but that would only feed his paranoia. Another JC


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 02:59 PM

He may not be at liberty to roam abroad without an escort.
G.☺


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 02:28 PM

reFRESH? from APRIL? lordy, lordy, lordy....you need a hobby that gets you out of the house, Roger.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:23 AM

Some people prefer to hide their inadequacies - others like to give them an airing now and then...


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: The Shambles
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:01 AM

refesh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 09:02 AM

Funny - I thought you had tired of the "Trojan Wars"... Or read about them and found out who won... Oh, I see now, this was posted 16 minutes before your latest reference; but I forgot to count it.

So - 9 in 4 weeks, 4 in a day


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 06:09 AM

-Joe Anonymous- Sounds like a Greek name..........?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 08:49 PM

"Slightly short fuse, well-meaning, persistent and a meddler" - hmmm.

Sounds like somebody I know.
-Joe Anonymous-


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 08:29 PM

It's not rocket science Bill - you just have to read the thread. However you are not the first not to notice it was a April Fool jest - perhaps because it started in March?

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: El Greko - PM
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 09:05 AM

It was bloody hard keeping up two personalities though... And I don't just mean the admin of having to check every time my handle before I say anything. Xander had to be a specific person, with a specific character - slightly short fuse, well-meaning, persistent and a meddler.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Chris Green
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 08:26 PM

Or merely balls?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 08:21 PM

Crystal balls.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 07:47 PM

and you know this how?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 07:18 PM

Xander said

I already indicated remorse at my statement towards El Greko further up in this thread, and I apologised to him directly also. Yet some people continue to hit me over the head with my hasty words. What do they want, blood? How many times does one need to apologise?

But of course Xander (who started this thread) was El Greko and he was insulting himself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Once Famous
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 12:00 PM

Too extreme for you, perhaps.

Yes, I have a gay cousin. She is a disppointment to her parents. I like her, but they don't call it queer for nothing. She thinks that being gay is an excuse to be off-beat and she flaunts it.

I have known others who were gay including one guy who died of AIDS. What a waste.

I don't really dwell on it until it rears it's perverted smelly behind saying "hey notice me" which it does way to often.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 11:38 PM

That was me on jacqui's computer. Sorry I forget to Log Out.
SINSULL


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 06:27 PM

Sorry to disillusion you Martin but the word partner, which I note you put in quotation marks for some obscure reason, means just that. If you are married then your wife is your partner, and in the instance of my son and his partner, [note lack of quotation marks] she is also the Mother of my grandson.
Interesting the way some peoples minds work.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 06:12 PM

Ok honest answer Martin.

So, why do you think a section of society are not entitled to the same level of respect/acceptance as any other section of society? I can't see why you would find something that does not touch your life in any way, so offensive?

As a guy I can see you may find the concept gut turning, but then don't dwell on it, you probably have habits others would cringe at too. But the homophobia you display goes way beyond gut turning.

Presumably none of your friends are gay? No relatives? Colleagues? They are just individuals who have differing sexual preferences to your own. They don't infringe on your existence. They don't insult you for your choices.

Sometimes you speak real good sense. But the homophobic stance you take is too extreme.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Once Famous
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 05:59 PM

Sure, they are more fun to watch.


Actually, no I'm not.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: jacqui.c
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 05:47 PM

But you are OK with women who do the same, Martin?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Once Famous
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 05:17 PM

Uh, let's start with lisping men who swish and flaunt it and butt fuck.

Stereotype? Yep. Most stereotypes are sure based on some truth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 05:10 PM

When do you come into contact with the homosexual lifestyle that causes you offence? What particular aspects of it offends you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Once Famous
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 05:02 PM

Joe, I did not use one obscenity in the post you bleeped. What you did was censor a personal opinion I made on a person's lifestyle and it wasn't even the poster himself. basically I felt sorry for the poster that said he has a male relative who's "partner" he was squeemish about using obscenities around.

I basically said that I was glad I didn't have those issues.

I believe you went a little too far overboard in your great haste to censor me for a personal observation/opinion on a lifestyle which can't even be expressed.

I don't find it politically incorrect to say that I find the homosexual lifestyle somewhat offensive. I would say that many others do, also.
    I agree, Martin. That post was deleted by mistake, and I undeleted it as soon as I discovered the error. It's only combative posts that I'm deleting.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 05:01 PM

Uluru Ebbie.
G ¦¬]


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 04:53 PM

See, Brucie? We really do appreciate you.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 04:52 PM

Oh, and I was also reminded me of the story where a naughty little kid sent out to fetch a switch from a bush for his own whipping comes back in distress. He says: I couldn't find a switch but here's a wock you can fwow at me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 04:50 PM

brucie I got the joke honest! I even googled Rock of Gibralter to throw one back at you, but the phone rang.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 04:48 PM

Actually, it not only made me chuckle, it made me think. Ayers Rock, right? I got to wondering how it came to be.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 04:40 PM

Gee, we're all really sorry, Brucie.

Would a polite titter make up for for our negligence in not appreciating your joke? Or will you settle only for a full-snorting guffaw now?

[snort, snort...]

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Peace
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 02:25 AM

Shambles said, "Let he is without sin etc."

I replied, "If I could lift it I'd throw it."

And not one of you got even a little chuckle outta that? You guys gotta take some of my meds, man.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: The Shambles
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 02:20 AM

Shambles thinks I'm too generous to you. Don't test me.

You could quote me correctly on many things - but you choose not to. I have never accused you of being generous to anyone (except possibly to yourself).

I have evidenced your inefficiency when it comes to having any affect on preventing abusive personal attacks - but that is not the same thing as saying you are generous.

Please don't put words in my mouth. There is no need for you ever to mention this or any other poster's name in ether your postings or your editing comments - so please don't.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Once Famous
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 05:57 PM

Joe, I fart in your general direction.



If one person reads it before you act like God, that's OK with me.

Giok obviously did. And it wasn't a personal attack, either. It was an opinion which you have censored.
    Gee, Martin. I've tried to be reasonable with you, and I thought you had cleaned up your act reasonably well. Shambles thinks I'm too generous to you. Don't test me.
    -joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 05:48 PM

Go back to sleep, jOhn. Tomorrow is another day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 05:42 PM

waht all this is about?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 01:48 AM

El Greko and Jacqui, that's a fascinating subject. I was of course aware of Tourette's but I had no idea there was such a thing as its equivalent in writing. It opens the door (book?) to lots more reading and learning. Thanks to you both.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Peace
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 05:04 PM

If I could lift it I'd throw it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: The Shambles
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 07:29 AM

Joe is that your personal opinion or the Official Mudcat view - of 'we'? If it was the latter - should it be in an editorial comment - so this is clear?

Let he is without sin etc.

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2004/20040811.htm


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Joe Offer
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 04:40 PM

Martin, you are still under 100 percent review because of your history of combative conduct. Please remember that your status here is strictly as a noncombatant. I thought you had been improving, but maybe not. I had to [bleep] a lot of messages from the past couple days.

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: jacqui.c
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 10:43 PM

I was thinking the same myself George. Sublime music and tacky words! Maybe we have another Mozart with us!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 07:17 PM

No need Martin - a computer is sufficient, the Internet has all the info we need.

It seems my hunch was right. There is a link between Tourette and scatological writing; there is even a term for it: "Coprographia". Take a look at this article on Tourettes and coprographia.

Fascinating reading.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 05:49 PM

I knew you wouln't understand Martin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Once Famous
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 05:20 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmm, [Bleep - personal attack] Giok. I'm sorry if you embarrass so easy. If you feel awkward with your 37 year old son and his uh, "partner" I'm sure you probably have your own heartache for other reasons.

Actually, I don't really care all that much who has hang-ups here and who doesn't. Maybe you think sex is dirty, also. Plenty of you good churchgoers have been known to think that.

El Greko, before you start analyzing medical conditions, first go to a gumball machine and get your medical licesnce. OK? that will make you more qualified for your diagnosis than you already are I believe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 03:58 PM

Agree Jacqui - unless it is a medical condition. Is there such a thing as Tourette's Syndrome in writing?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: jacqui.c
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 07:55 AM

Well said Giok.

I can't say that bad language per se causes me great offence personally but the gratuitous and personal use, to which you put it Martin, IS offensive and, basically, boring.


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