BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast

Subject: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: kendall
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 08:48 AM

I don't think the locator is up to date. Are there any Mudcatters in Georgia?

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: Snuffy
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 08:53 AM

None willing to admit it, apparently.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: Amos
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 09:07 AM

Hey, dude, ATlanta is a happening place!!! More brains than even Hull!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 11:48 AM

You can get close--BWL is in Florida, as is I think Harpgirl. CarolC and JtS are in Alabama. Blackcatter is in Orlando, isn't he? (Is that the right moniker?)

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: GUEST,SRS
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 11:50 AM

Oh--and then there are Khandu and Tweed! Not in Georgia, but all of these places are within spitting distance.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: GUEST,WYS
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 12:07 PM

Bill in Alabama. Not posting a lot but I found him "out there" not long ago.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: GUEST,CarolC
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 01:19 PM

We're in Alabama, right across the Chattahoochee river from Columbus, Georgia. jimmyt is in north Georgia (Dalton, I believe). Whereabouts in Georgia are you going to be, kendall?

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: GUEST,PoppaGator
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 01:46 PM

Psssst ~ over here! I'm in New Orleans, Louisiana, part of the Southeast geographically if not culturally. No other Mudcatters in the immediate vicinity, as far as I know.

Khandu lives up in Mississippi, I believe, and Tweed seems to be a Mississippian who has relocated to Florida.

I would argue against the assertion that "all these places are within spitting distance." There's a lot of wide-open space between human settlements in the south ~ not like the intermountain West, of course, but way more spacious and sparsely settled than the Northeast/Midwest or, certainly, the UK or anywhere in Western Europe.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: GUEST,Liz the Squeak
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 01:59 PM

Well I'm in the Southeast, but the country may be different!

Maybe you ought to specify which continent.....?!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: GUEST,CarolC
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 02:02 PM

Do you have a state called Georgia in the UK, too, LtS?

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 03:25 PM

PoppaGator,

I'm in Texas--where people travel large distances on a very regular basis and end up never leaving the state. At least those southeastern states are smaller to begin with so you can feel like you're making progress if you cross a couple of political boundaries in the course of a day's drive.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: kendall
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 04:00 PM

Should have been more specific...Anywhere in Georgia near I 95.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 04:01 PM

SRS: point taken. But, Texas is a special case, innit?

Where I originally hail from, up there among the original 13 colonies, the boundaries and the people are all much closer together.

You could drive from Boston to Baltimore and cross parts of EIGHT states (Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, and Maryland), all within a distance not much greater than the mileage between two consecutive West Texas exits on the I-10 (Ozona / Fort Stockton). Well, that's probably a bit of an exaggeration, but the mileage would definitely fit within the Lone Star State, easily, even if it were to span two or three interstate exits.

The southeastern states may not be Texas-size, but they're pretty dern big, much moreso that in the northeast. Georgia is huge! I'll never forget the first time I drove from Chicago to Miami ~ we got to Atlanta and thought we were "almost there," but when we took a closer look at the map, we realized we were only at the halfway point!

New Orleans to Atlanta is hardly spittin' distance. Two separate universes, really...

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 04:32 PM

Not even halfway, PoppaGator. At least two thirds, and maybe even three quarters of Georgia lies to the south of Atlanta.

kendall, when are you going to be passing through? I95 is all the way across the state from us (going east to west), but we might be in the Savannah area and other parts of the Atlantic coast of Georgia some time in the next few weeks.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: kendall
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 04:53 PM

We would be passing through Savannah headed for Florida., probably on April 20 or 21.

Actually, Georgia is the biggest state east of the Mississippi.
More trivia, It is further from Portland Maine to Fort Kent Maine than from Portland to Boston, or Hartford CT. and about the same as to NY city.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: PoppaGator
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 05:26 PM

CarolC: Atlanta is nowhere near the north-to-south midpoint of Georgia, but it *is* just about halfway between Chicago and Miami. (That's what I was trying to say, but looking back, I see how and why I wasn't all that clear.) Traveling south, you still have most of Georgia to go, plus lots and lots of Florida.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: PoppaGator
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 05:40 PM

CarolC: Atlanta is nowhere near the north-to-south midpoint of Georgia, but it *is* just about halfway between Chicago and Miami. (That's what I was trying to say, but looking back, I see how and why I wasn't all that clear.) Traveling south, you still have most of Georgia to go, plus lots and lots of Florida.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 05:47 PM

Ah... I see now what you were getting at, PoppaGator.

kendall, I'll talk to JtS and see what's up with our trip out that way. Will you be traveling with the motor home?

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: jacqui.c
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 06:29 PM

No - we've decided on this trip to take the car.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 06:38 PM

Not many on the coast Kendall. Frank Hamilton is in Atlanta though as well as the others mentioned. Might pay you to cut down 77 to Atlanta out of Charlotte, depending on where you're going in Fla.

Poppa Gator......Tweed is from Indiana.

Anyway Kendall, I like the coast roads down until you get south of Savannah. Then you get the lovely stench of paper processing around Brunswick...........

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: jacqui.c
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 10:22 PM

We're heading down to Orlando to visit with my daughter who is on holiday there with my 4 year old grandson. It's a good opportunity for me to see more of the USA and to visit mudcatters where we can on the way down and back.

Is Blackcatter still around - haven't seen any posts from him recently.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 10:56 PM

Yas, Tweed is from Indiana, but Tweed's body lives in Florida and his mind lives in the Mississippi Delta. That explains a lot. We're not sure what it explains, but there's a lot of it.


There are a number of 'Catters (who, incidentally, we haven't heard from lately) that live in the Tampa/St. Petersburg area. That's about a two-hour drive from Orlando if the traffic's good. They all seem to connect via the Bluegrass Shoppe in St. Pete.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 12:29 AM

Also Poppa Gator............Khandu is indeed Mississippi born and bred. Matter of fact he comes from the same county where the infamous Tallahatchie Bridge is located and provided me with some details when I was researching the song which was originally done many years ago by the Fisk Jubilee Singers. We've had a number of threads discussing them around here. Quite a history! You may not be familiar with this part of their story, but the infamous '60's song by Bobbi Gentry, "Ode to Billie Joe," is directly linked to the Jubilee Singers.

The story of Billie Joe is based in truth but of course "stylized" to some degree. It is an old story, dating back to the the late '40's when the only daughter of John Hatch, a Mississippi Klansman of some note, was in love with the first black attorney in the state of Mississippi. Jubilee Simmons was the grandson of slaves and his parents had named him Jubilee because they had both been members of the famous Fisk Jubilee Singers, where they had actually first met and fallen in love. He had gone to law school at the University of Chicago and returned to his family's home state of Mississippi, taking up residence in Carroll county in 1948.

Klansman John Hatch's daughter was known to be a bit wild and young Kelli had already incurred her father's wrath on numerous occasions. Kelli was living with two other 22 year old women in the small town of Campton, Mississippi when she met and began dating Simmons. Her father learned of it a few weeks later and came into town drunk with some Klan buddies to hunt down and kill Simmons. Simmons law offices were across from the county courthouse and through an open window he could hear the drunken invectives hurled his way from across the square. He slipped out a back door and went to Kelli's house to take her away and save them both from the murderous rancor of her father and his equally violent "brethren."

Not finding Jubilee in his office the Klansmen split up to search for him and John Hatch went to his daughter's, presumably to beat her or possibly (and probably) worse. He arrived before the pair had left and headed in the back porch door adjoining the kitchen. Seeing him coming, Simmons grabbed a kitchen knife and jumped atop the counter and then onto the top of the refrigerator that stood by the door. As John Hatch passed, he didn't notice Simmons who then jumped him safely from behind and in the ensuing struggle, Hatch was stabbed with the knife. The lovers bagged his body and threw it off the bridge on their way out of town. They were on their way to Chicago when they were arrested in Clarksville, Tennessee and returned for trial in Mississippi. Jubilee represented both and thanks to the testimony of one of the roommates and Mrs. Hatch, the wife of the deceased and Kelli's mother, who had suffered abuse for years at the hands of her husband, both were acquitted and moved to Chicago where he established a moderately successful practice on the south side.

The original song told the story as it was, but owing to legal considerations, the Gentry version was done instead. The original was titled, "The Day that Jubilee the Barrister Jumped Off of Kelli Hatch's Fridge."

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: kendall
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 08:14 AM

Spaw, if we ever meet, be prepared to be severly taunted.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 09:18 AM

You know, reading one of Spaw's stories like that is... well... You know it's gonna be bullshit. As soon as you see his name appended to it your brain sends out this message that says

BULLSHIT!!!!

But by the time you've read a paragraph or so it's only saying

BULLSHIT!!!

The longer you read, the smaller the mental cry of "BULLSHIT!" becomes until it's barely registering as

Bullshit?

at which time he slams you with a

GOTCHA!!!!

which leaves you shaking your head and muttering something like "Bullshit! I oughtta know better! Sumbitch's stories are always bullshit. Next time that fucker posts somethin' like that I'm not even gonna read it! Nope! Not me!"

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 12:37 PM

Lts, can we specify the incontinent in stead?

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: kendall
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 12:40 PM

And the worst part is, he's lurking and laughing his ass off!

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: PoppaGator
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 04:48 PM

Must confess ~ I was "gotten"! And, I enjoyed being taken for a fool!

Never again, though... Fool me once, shame on me, etc.

(I should have known somethng was amiss as soon as that sumbitch jumped up onto the icebox, a tellingly improbable detail.)

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 07:22 PM

LOL.....Yeah, that is a bit improbable but by that time you're pretty well hooked. And in actuality, khandu did help me out with that tale. The first time I wrote it, he too was taken in for a bit but I had created a real mistake that I should have known better than to do. Ken caught it immediately. I had located Jubilee's office IN the courthouse and the probability of a black attorney having an office IN the courthouse in 1948 was somewhere less than NONE!!!

I still love it though.......Everytime I drag it out it hooks a few more. B-Dub, that response cracked me up and as a proud supplier of Bullshit, I thank you!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: jpk
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 08:02 PM

hey amos,i was born an raised in n.fla,s.ga. just got back from atlanta but it sure as heck was't in georga. try idaho. i know, where the hell is idaho,and yes atlanta is here,look us up

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: jimmyt
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 08:55 PM

Kendall I am in North Georgia but Savannah is a LONG way from us. Georgia has about as much diversity in geography as there is east of the Mississippi. We are in the Appalachians and Savannah has gators and palm trees. Anyway if you and Jacqui decide to take a different route home and decide to come up our way we would be delighted. jimmyt

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 07:40 PM

If you're gonna be "got," it's best to get got by the best. . .

I don't often accidentally spit on my monitor--but Spaw and BWL are two who can bring it about if anybody can!

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: Banjer
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 08:43 AM

Hi guys...just happen to be lurking today and spotted the reference to the Bluegrass Shop made by Bee-dubya-el. We are still alive and kicking here. If anyone gets near the BG Shop, stop in, especially Saturday PM after 12, when the jam session is in full swing!

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: rock chick
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 05:45 PM

Well i am in the South East but thats in Englands, bit fart from Georgia?

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters in the Southeast
From: rock chick
Date: 24 Apr 05 - 11:03 AM

he he, think i meant far not fart ;o))))