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Subject: Lyr Req: '...In case we might forget...' (?)
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 08:26 AM

Hi,
I'm looking for the lyrics to that song, I don't know, but I think it's called "In case we might forget", I heard it on a CD sung by Andy Irvine, but I can't find the lyrics anywhere. Does anybody know this song?
Thank you,
Chris


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: '...In case we might forget...' (?)
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 09:11 AM

Try: http://www.andyirvine.com

Are you sure you aren't thinking of someone else, perhaps Peter Bellamy singing 'Recessional'?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: '...In case we might forget...' (?)
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 09:45 AM

thank's for the link, but it didn't really help. I'm not sure if it was Andy Irvne, but it was on a sampler-cd which was very rare.
I'd like to have the lyrics of the song and I don't even know the title.
I remember some of it....

In a corner of a quiet field there's a momument today
put up by the mine workers at the unwa (?)
to mark the spot where children had their lives taken away
and it's standing there in case we might forget

Last (or lest?) we forget in case we might forget
how the rich men....
get away with murder then they get away with it yet
and it's standing there in case we might forget

hope that helps...!?
Thank's,
Chris


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: '...In case we might forget...' (?)
From: GUEST,McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 10:48 AM

I've not come across it, but from that I'd say the song would be about the Aberfan Disaster, back in 1966.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: '...In case we might forget...' (?)
From: Peace
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 02:48 PM

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:jMsweYFzqwsJ:mysongbook.de/msb/songs/m/m_titel.html+%22andy+irvine%22,+lyrics,+monument&hl=en


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: '...In case we might forget...' (?)
From: Peace
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 03:04 PM

Sorry to leave the link like that. (Had a fire call (false alarm) just as I was posting, so had to finish fast.

The song is entitled Monument (Lest we forget) and is by Andy Irvine. I will search further.

Bruce M


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: '...In case we might forget...' (?)
From: Peace
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 03:06 PM

CD it's on.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: '...In case we might forget...' (?)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 03:07 PM

According to this site the song's about the Ludlow Massacre that Woody Guthrie wrote his song about.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: '...In case we might forget...' (?)
From: Peace
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 03:10 PM

Also, see this thread:

Info Req: Ludlow Massacre (Woody Guthrie)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: '...In case we might forget...' (?)
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 07:54 PM

The song isn't yet entered in My Songbook, which Brucie tried to link to. Here are the CD liner notes:

[1996:] The Ludlow Massacre is one of those shameful occurrences in social history that make scarce an imprint on your average history book. While history books are busy talking about this battle or that war, they usually pass no comment on the social uprisings that took place here, there and everywhere in the first 20 years of this century.
Briefly, the United Mine Workers of America had managed to organise the many different races of newly-arrived immigrants in the coalfields of Southern Colorado by 1913 to the extent that it was decided to strike against the mighty Colorado Fuel and Iron Company. This company was controlled by John D. Rockefeller and the conditions the workers were kept in resembled the unspeakable squalor of Medieval feudalism.
The company, of course, owned the ramshackle huts that the miners and their families were packed into and evicted them at the outset of the strike. The Union moved them into tent colonies, the largest one being at Ludlow.
In the icy winter of 1913-14, the striking miners and their families were controlled in their tent town by the National Guard which had been called out as a buffer between the Company Guards and the miners, but which soon sided with the company. The dominant figure in this State Militia company was Lieutenant Lindersfelt, an especially brutal bully boy. On April 20 1914, with machine guns and high-powered rifles, the militiamen, who may have been drinking, opened fire without warning on the Ludlow tent colony. The miners had dug pits under some of the tents, so that pregnant women and nursing mothers and their children could be below the firing line. However, the murderous militiamen went berserk and set fire to the tents with coal oil. The next day, when the smoke had cleared, the blackened bodies of two young mothers and eleven children between three months and nine years were found.
Though Lindersfelt and others were found guilty after a farcical trial they were punished only by their promotions being delayed. At a congressional hearing, Rockefeller insisted that he had known nothing of the conditions in his mines nor of the company's crimes committed during the strike. This was later shown to be totally untrue.
At the spot where these 13 people died, today there is a monument - put up by the United Mine Workers, note, not by the State of Colorado - which says "In memory of the men, women and children who lost their lives in Freedom's cause at Ludlow, Colorado, April 20, 1914". (For the whole story see: "Buried Unsung" by Zeese Papanikolas.) (Notes Andy Irvine, 'Rain on the Roof')

I'll try and copy out the whole lyrics some time this week.

McGrath, thanks for the Aberfan link! I'll add it to Palaces of Gold.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Monument (Lest We Forget) (Andy Irvin
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 02:11 PM

So the song is not about the Aberfan Disaster but about the Ludlow Massacre!? And it's written by Andy Irvine?

Thank you so much for the information so far!!!
If I find anything else about it I'll post it!

Slàn Chris


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Monument (Lest We Forget) (Andy Irvin
From: trianam
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 02:56 PM

'HELP' - I still couldn't find the lyrics to "The Monument"
Chris (logged in as trianam now ;-))


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE MONUMENT (LEST WE FORGET) (A Irvine)
From: trianam
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 04:58 PM

Hey folks,
I thought you'd be of any help ;-) (Just kidding)
Well...I was searching the lyrics of this song like a lunatic and a friend of mine had the song on a CD. So I tried to write down the lyrics but since I'm not a native speaker, I don't know if they're right. So if you find any mistakes feel free to correct me.
And thanks for the background information to it.
See ya,
Chris (www.trianam.com)
So there we go...great lyrics to a great tune:

THE MONUMENT (LEST WE FORGET)

In a corner of a quiet field, there's a monument today
Put up by the mine workers at the UNWA
To mark the spot where children had their lives taken away
And it's standing there in case we might forget.

Lest we forget, in case we might forget,
How the rich men and his police and his press
Got away with murder then. They get away with it yet,
And it's standing there in case we might forget.

You may turn the pages of your history books in vain.
The first thing men of power learn, it's never to take the blame.
Just tell the people shameless lies. There's nothing ever changed.
History is always written by the winners.

Lest we forget, in case we might forget,
How the rich men and his police and his press
Got away with murder then. They get away with it yet,
And it's standing there in case we might forget.

In today's newspapers the headlines change so fast.
So much information in the memory doesn't blast,
But if we learn nothing from the lessons of the past,
I'm afraid that we are destined to relive it.

Lest we forget, in case we might forget,
How the rich men and his police and his press
Got away with murder then. They get away with it yet,
And it's standing there in case we might forget.

In a corner of a quiet field, there's a monument today
Put up by the mine workers at the UNWA
To mark the spot where children had their lives taken away
And it's standing there in case we might forget.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: '...In case we might forget...' (?)
From: Peace
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 06:10 PM

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Monument (Lest We Forget) (Andy Irvin
From: trianam - PM
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 04:58 PM

Hey folks,
I thought you'd be of any help ;-) (just kidding)
Well...I was searching the lyrics of this song like a lunatic and a friend of mine had the song on a CD. So I tried to write down the lyrics but since I'm not a native speaker I don't know if they're right. So if you find any mistakes feel free to correct me.
And thank's for the background information to it.
See ya,
Chris (www.trianam.com)
So there we go...great lyrics to a great tune:

The Monument (Lest We Forget)

In a corner of a quiet field there's a momument today
put up by the mine workers at the unwa
to mark the spot where children had their lives taken away
and it's standing there in case we might forget

Lest we forget in case we might forget
how the rich men and his police and his press
got away with murder then, they get away with it yet
and it's standing there in case we might forget

you may turn the pages of your history books in vain
the first thing men of power learn it's never to take the blame
just tell the people shameless lies there's nothing ever changed
history is always written by the winners

Lest we forget in case we might forget
how the rich men and his police and his press
got away with murder then, they get away with it yet
and it's standing there in case we might forget

in today's newspapers the headlines change so fast
so much information in the memory doesn't blast
but if we learn nothing from the lessons of the past
I'm afraid that we are destined to relive it

Lest we forget in case we might forget
how the rich men and his police and his press
got away with murder then, they get away with it yet
and it's standing there in case we might forget

In a corner of a quiet field there's a momument today
put up by the mine workers at the unwa
to mark the spot where children had their lives taken away
and it's standing there in case we might forget


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Monument (Lest We Forget) (Andy Irvin
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 07:02 PM

Smart try, Chris! There are just a few minor differences from the lyrics in the liner notes:

Chorus l. 2: How the rich man ...

V.2 l. 2: ... is never to take the blame
    l. 3: ..., does nothing ever change?

V. 3 l. 2: ... in the memory doesn't last

And thanks for saving me the work of copying it out!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Monument (Lest We Forget) (Andy Irvin
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 07:08 PM

Oops! And in V. 1 l. 2 it's UMWA, of course - United Mineworkers of America


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Subject: Lyr Add: MONUMENT (LEST WE FORGET) (Andy Irvine)
From: trianam
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 08:48 AM

Thank you for the correction Susanne!
I decided to post the corrected lyrics again, so that the people don't have to correct them again (because of copy'n'paste) ;-)
See you,
Chris (http//www.trianam.com)


The Monument (Lest we forget)

In the corner of a quiet field there's a momument today
put up by the mine workers at the UMWA
to mark the spot where children had their lives taken away
and it's standing there in case we might forget

Lest we forget in case we might forget
how the rich men and his police and his press
got away with murder then, they get away with it yet
and it's standing there in case we might forget

you may turn the pages of your history books in vain
the first thing men of power learn is never to take the blame
just tell the people shameless lies does nothing ever change
history is always written by the winners

Lest we forget in case we might forget
how the rich men and his police and his press
got away with murder then, they get away with it yet
and it's standing there in case we might forget

in today's newspapers the headlines change so fast
so much information in the memory doesn't last
but if we learn nothing from the lessons of the past
I'm afraid that we are destined to relive it

Lest we forget in case we might forget
how the rich men and his police and his press
got away with murder then, they get away with it yet
and it's standing there in case we might forget

In a corner of a quiet field there's a momument today
put up by the mine workers at the unwa
to mark the spot where children had their lives taken away
and it's standing there in case we might forget


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Monument (Lest We Forget) (Andy Irvine)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 10:47 PM

There's a photo of the monument in Wikipedia (along with an article, of course).


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