Lyr Req: The Boys of Tandernmagee? / ...Tandragee

Subject: Folklore: The Boys Of Tandernmagee
From: Warsaw Ed
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 02:57 PM

I have come accross a MIDI of "The Boys Of Tandernmagee" a number of times, but can not find any lyrics, story or background material from Mudcat,Google, Vivisimo or Ask Jeeves.   Can anyone enlighten me on the story of the Boys Of Tandernmagee? MIDI (nice tune)at
www.ashvilleohio.net/stpatricksday.htm.
http://patmw.tripod.com/patmwmidicollectionindex.html
Thanks. Ed

Subject: RE: Folklore: The Boys Of Tandernmagee
From: MartinRyan
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 03:31 PM

The spelling varies, not surprisingly! Try This Thread

Regards

Subject: RE: Folklore: The Boys Of Tandernmagee
From: GUEST,Rollicking Boy
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 03:33 PM

See this thread The Boys of Tandragee

Subject: RE: Folklore: The Boys Of Tandernmagee
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 03:34 PM

Also Lyr Req: Tandragee

Mick

Subject: RE: Folklore: The Boys Of Tandernmagee
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 03:34 PM

(cross-post!)

Subject: RE: Folklore: The Boys Of Tandernmagee
From: Warsaw Ed
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 04:34 PM

Thank you all, Martin Ryan, Rolicking Boy and MCP.   Once again Mudcat comes through where Jeeves and Vivisimo fail. Mudcat NEVER fails, well HARDLY EVER!!
On replaying the MIDIs, I notice the tune sounds very much like The IRISH WASHERWOMAN. I wonder if there's some connection there???
Thanks again. Ed

Subject: RE: The Boys Of Tandernmagee
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 05:25 PM

Search engines aren't as good at guessing what you really meant as people are. Never rely on what you think you heard; always try alternative spellings.

The tune is a very close relative of The Hills of Glenorchy, Copshawholme Fair and The Wild Hills of Wannie. Likely Scottish in origin, though also found in Ireland and England (and in America as The Old Grey Cat). A lot of tunes use the same basic structures, though, so the list of possible relatives is very long. The Irish Washerwoman may have a generic rather than familial resemblance, but it's not an easy question even for the experts (which I am not).

Subject: RE: The Boys Of Tandernmagee
From: Peace
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 04:07 PM

Maybe not, Malcolm, but yer pretty close.

Subject: RE: The Boys Of Tandernmagee
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 09:25 PM

Tommy Makem recorded this song on an album titled "In The Dark Green Woods" on Polydor records.

Subject: RE: The Boys Of Tandernmagee
From: Warsaw Ed
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 10:59 PM

Thanks for the lesson, Malcomb Douglas [and to brucie and unnamed Guest]. And in addition to getting a MIDI of most of the named melodies, I came accross Bristol Rapper and Sudney Scottish Fiddlers, both great Midi sites. Mudcat is a excellent forum.
Thanks. Ed

Subject: RE: The Boys Of Tandragee
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 05:51 AM

I often hear the tune played in sessions; what is the instrumental version usually called? (see Malcolm Douglas,16 April)

Subject: RE: The Boys Of Tandernmagee
From: clueless don
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 01:03 PM

The tune I have always heard "Boys" sung to is called Pat Burke's Jig in the Irish tradition. But the tune is also identified as "The Boys of Tanderagee" or "The Rollicking Boys around Tanderagee" or however you wish to spell it. And I am sure that others have used different names for the tune, illustrating the great principle: "All Irish tunes have more then one name, and all Irish tune names apply to more than one tune."

Don

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Boys Of Tandernmagee
From:
Date: 18 Jan 06 - 04:16 AM

For Ed Warsaw.
Tou may see the books by the late Paddy Tunny "Where songs do thunder" and "The stone fiddle". They are good books by a well known singer. It includes the song Craigie Hill, that you call An emigration song. Carmel Gunning, the whistle player and singer of The Lakes of Sligo and one of my favourite traditional singers, gave me the text of The Lakes of Sligo. I will try and sent it to you.

If ever you are in the Netherlands, you are welcome at a singing session.

Bas ten Asbroek

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Boys Of Tandernmagee
From: My guru always said
Date: 18 Jan 06 - 06:58 AM

What an interesting thread! I sing 'Tandragee', would I be welcome at a singing session in the netherlands?