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happy? - April 17

Abby Sale 17 Apr 05 - 10:24 AM
GUEST,Allen 17 Apr 05 - 10:39 AM
Barry Finn 17 Apr 05 - 11:03 AM
sian, west wales 17 Apr 05 - 11:13 AM
Abby Sale 17 Apr 05 - 12:30 PM
GUEST,Joe_F 17 Apr 05 - 08:59 PM
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Subject: happy? - April 17
From: Abby Sale
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 10:24 AM

4/17/1965: Approximately 25,000 to 30,000 anti-war protesters participated in the first March on Washington against the Vietnam War.

Organized by Students for a Democratic Society and the Student Peace Union against the advice of older peace movement organizations, the turn out was several times larger than anyone had anticipated.

        Here I sit in this rice paddy, wondering about Big Daddy,
        And I know that Lyndon loves me so.
        Yet it's strange when I remember, way back yonder to November,
        When he said I'd never have to go.
        And Lyndon Johnson told the nation, 'Have no fear of escalation,
        I am trying everyone to please.
        Though it isn't really war, I'm sending fifty thousand more,
        To help save Vietnam from Vietnamese.'

                "Lyndon Johnson Told The Nation," Tom Paxton [thanx Steve Suffet]


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Subject: RE: happy? - April 17
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 10:39 AM

Didin't Paxton write this when Johnson was still fairly popular with the Left?


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Subject: RE: happy? - April 17
From: Barry Finn
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 11:03 AM

Hi Abby

I haven't seen a "Happy" in years. Does this mean you are reviving Happy's & happy's? Always love 'em.

Barry


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Subject: RE: happy? - April 17
From: sian, west wales
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 11:13 AM

Three cheers for the resurrection of "Happy?" !!!

I wonder what the 'older peace movement organizations' saw as the argument 'against'? And I bet that the Press at the time reported a much smaller turn-out. I marched in Edinburgh quite a few years ago when John Major was the EU President and the Maastricht Treaty was the hot topic. The Press gave a number which was about half of what really showed up.

Heady days.

sian


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Subject: RE: happy? - April 17
From: Abby Sale
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 12:30 PM

Hi Barry & sian. Muchly. Thanks.

For others, I'll rarely explain what I was thinking when I posted a particular item. Maybe nothing at all - maybe it's a real troll, maybe I'm outraged about something or just thought it was amusing or important or there's some real clever in-joke there that only three people in the world could possibly get. Or, really, no thoughts at all - just something boring but that I can link to Today.

I certainly will read all comments and likely make many corrections to the File for next year.


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Subject: RE: happy? - April 17
From: GUEST,Joe_F
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 08:59 PM

Among numbers to be routinely disbelieved, sizes of demonstrations are right up there with circulations, cock lengths, and church membership statistics. To get a rough guess, take the geometric mean of the figures given by the organizers & by the police. If you are actually there, and can get high enough to see the whole crowd, count the people in a imaginary square near you & then estimate the number of such squares to cover the crowd. If everybody marches along one parade route, you can count the people who pass in a minute & time the parade from beginning to end.

--- Joe Fineman    joe_f@verizon.net

||: First you go to hell, then your body rots, and then you die. :||


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