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The versatility of the Anglo Concertina

Alan Day 19 Apr 05 - 03:12 PM
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ConcertinaChap 20 Apr 05 - 06:14 AM
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Subject: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 03:12 PM

I am just writing to let you all know of a project that has been twenty years in the thinking and now a few months from the making.
It is a double CD collection to show the versatility of the Anglo concertina and the various ways it can be played.The musicians will include the following
John Kirkpatrick,Noel Hill,Jody Kriskal and his Contra Dance Band,Bertram Levy,Frank Edgley,Tom Lawrence,Will Duke,Roger Digby solo and with Bob Davenport,Roger Edwards solo and with the Threfal Sisters,Harry Scurfield,Mary McNamara,Kate McNamara,Mandy Murray,
Chris Sherburn,Regardt de Bruin,Zak Van de Veer,Andy Turner,a little bit from me and Archive performances from Andrew Blakeny-Edwards,
Nigel Chippendale,Fred Kilroy,Mrs Crotty,
It is hoped to release this collection in June/July and it will be announced on this site.
90% approx of the recordings are being done especially by the artists for this collection.Only a small number of selected recordings (out of print) have been selected which we feel adds to the interest.
If you require more infomation I will be pleased to discuss it here.
Alan Day


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 04:18 PM

Yes! What a wonderful selection, Alan, and an excellent idea.

More information when available, please.


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Bernard
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 05:01 PM

T'riffic!


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: pavane
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 05:35 AM

Why not see if you can get permission to include one tune from William Kimber? There was an album available at one time - The Art of William Kimber, with recordings made in the 1930's and 1940's of the Headington morris tunes.

(I am sure that most people will know of him, and his triggering of Cecil Sharp's interest in Morris Dance)


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 05:46 AM

Eagerly awaiting this treasure...


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: ConcertinaChap
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 06:14 AM

I've been privileged to hear a cassette of some of the recordings Alan has made for this project. Believe me, this is going to be a gem of a CD whether you're a concertina obsessive like me or if you just like good music. For me it was particularly interesting to hear the recording of Fred Kilroy since my main squeeze used to belong to him. Can't wait till the finished disc comes out.

Chris


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 07:35 AM

Sounds superb !

What, no Anahata ?


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Schantieman
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 07:39 AM

This sounds brilliant.

I've got an old Anglo in Ab/Eb with no accidentals, probably made for the Salvation Army (coz I think brass bands tend to play in flat keys). I'd be interested to hear this mixture of styles and find out how it should be played.   Trouble is, then I'll have to practise.

Anybody want to buy a concertina?

;-)

Steve


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 09:06 AM

Sorry I typed out my list after a round trip of over 500 miles and missed out artists from my list Scan Tester (some unheard archive material), Niall Valleley, and a Zulu Squashbox recording,I will slap my wrist accordingly.
Thank you all for your comments and support.
We investigated originally Anglo Styles and the fact that all the artists included all have different and interesting styles but with styles where do you start and finish. Take English or Irish styles for example, I could fill up a double cd on both and never touch the surface.William Kimber for example has his own unique style but all his recordings a dedicated concertina player would have in his collection and what we did not want to do is assemble a collection that someone with a good record collection could put together in their front room.That is why we have tried to obtain new archive recordings that no one has heard before and new recordings that selected artists have recorded for us.WK was mentioned and discussed almost the first week of putting this collection together,then Rev Ken
and onwards.We have tried to take a new look at a concertina compilation records and just tried to get a mixture of the two.As Chris kindly says the quality of playing plus the mixture of different styles creates a lot of surprises and since Chris had his compilation, some awesome recordings have been received.We have also tried to give youth a chance, Regardt de Bruin (16 years old) and Kate McNamara (15 years old),both of which made me put my concertina back in its box and slam the lid down.
I am just sorry that of the World players I have invited to record, I could not have asked more and included W.K and many more artists no longer with us.All I can say is that the CDs certainly show the versatity of the Anglo.
Thanks again for your interest and comments.
Alan Day


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 12:05 PM

It was mainly due to the interest in the "Rosbif Waltz" mentioned on this site that made me ring Graham of Roots Records to see if there was any records in stock of the old album and he, during the conversation, reminded me of this project, I had talked to him about ten years before (and John Kirkpatrick ten years before that).It was his idea that the Rosbif Waltz should be included on this collection.
I am sure Chris and some of you may remember that on an early
John Kirkpatrick`s "Jump at the Sun" LP he played a classical piece called "Gigue"(pronounced Jig so John tells me).This to me is one of the finest bits of Anglo playing I have ever heard.I am pleased to inform you that John is re recording this piece for the collection.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: treewind
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 12:22 PM

Ahoy, anon GUEST!
Not me, first I've heard of it!

I had a go at learning Mattheson's Gigue once. With practice I can get up to and including the fourth voice's entry.

For those who haven't heard it, it's a four part fugue, played by JK without the aid of multitracking.

I sometimes wonder if he's still playing it, forget to ask whenever I see him.

Anahata


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 01:10 PM

Hallo Anahata,I have heard your playing and in answer to you and your guest fan,I am sorry you were not included.Also for the many other UK players that were not included,it was not down to your playing abilty, but for the balance of the collection.We thought that if we over powered it with English and Irish players that we would not achieve the wide variety of styles, music and interest that more Worldwide approach would achieve.I have to accept any critisism in that direction.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Folkiedave
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 04:00 PM

I asked John to play the Gigue about six months ago when he was in Sheffield. He said he would rather not do it as part of the set because he hadn't practised it for a while.

But I agree that it is the most amazing piece. I first saw him play it at a Cleethorpes Festival (in the good old days when it was on the pier), about 1971.

Best regards,

Dave Eyre


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 05:42 PM

I was sure Dave when I first heard it,it was multi tracked, when I realised it was just straight playing I could not believe it.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 11:31 PM

G'day Alan,

Is your "... project ... twenty years in the thinking and now a few months from the making ... double CD collection ... of the Anglo concertina and the various ways it can be played ..." going to be a commercial release (and find its way to the deepest Antipodes)?

If it will be distributed, I would like to get details when it goes to pressing and, if it is a private project / CD-R burn, I would also like to know how to obtain a copy.

Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 07:07 AM

Thanks for your interest Bob.
The CDs are being produced by Roots records Coventry and will have a comprehensive booklet to go with it.They will be distributed through normal outlets, but will also be advertised on this site when ready.I will let you know here and give updates as they happen.
This collection I am sure will be of interest to many non players of the concertina as we have tried to go for variety of presentation, it is not two albums full of solo concertina playing but a mixture of
styles and music but featuring the Anglo.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 02:57 AM

G'day Alan,

Glad to hear this will be a commercial release. I could see that you had cast your net very wide ... when you trawl in from as far as "... a Zulu Squashbox recording ..."! (I've heard some of that on the triple CD set Planet Squeezebox, 1995, Ellipse Arts... CDs 3471-3, which [sadly] has "Zulu & Sotho Squeezebox" as the only representation of any concertina music!)

I play basic Anglos - 22 and 20 key Lachenals in G/C and D/G, respectively ... and I'm working on getting my old Bb/F reed set up and running, preferably as a 22- or 24-key box from bits and pieces I have round the place. My core interest is traditional playing in Australia's past, so it's simple 2-rowers for me, but I appreciate the virtuoso work that has been done in the folk and concertina revivals on Anglo.

I do also have, and occasionally play, some more modern Italian German system boxes - including an 'organ-tuned' (normal + lower octave) 20-key G/C ... and a vast 36-key, octagonal, "melodeon-tuned" (musette or tremolo 2-reed tuning) 36-key in Anglo-chromatic fingering! These are actually quite like several of the early styles of German concertinas that appeared in Australian shops on the 19th century Goldfields - and I like to remind local folkies that the concertina world of our 19th century was much bigger and more complex than we imagine.

Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 03:40 AM

Thanks for your reply Bob ,I would have liked to have included an Australian Anglo player and music from that area.I am sure you have some wonderful players there but sadly I did not find them.
I remember years ago a superb English system player emigrated to NSW but I lost contact with him and now cannot even remember his name.
Do you mean CG and GD Anglos that you have or is it that you play upside down?(only joking).
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 08:13 AM

G'day Alan,

We may have stumbled across an unrecognised 'north-south' split in Anglo terminology. Local practice is to refer to (the pitch of) the Anglo's rows in order from that nearest the hands (as also in respect of multi-row button accordions, which most of us also play) ... so my 20-key Lachenal has a G row nearest my hands and a C row (admittedly a fifth lower, rather than the G/C accordions inner [C] row that is a fourth higher in pitch) ... and is refered to as a G/C. Of course, if we were to speak in ascending order of pitch, my Anglo might be a C/G (or C/g) while my accordion was G/C (or, indeed, G/c).

As may be ... Just how far back did your "... superb English system player ..." emigrate to NSW?

Back in the beginnings of the 'Australian Folk Revival' and the beginnings of the Bush Music Club (from 1954) we seemed to have a good few English players of concertina - often staffing universities - and they seem to have all had some involvement in the ICA. Early "Bush Music" enthusiasts interested in taking up concertina, as a traditional instrument of the Colonial past, and noting that many old Bush singers talked of the best Bush musicians playing "... good English concertinas ..." sought out these English concertina players who averred that the old blokes must mean concertinas of Wheatstone's original pattern ... misleading several revival players into sweating over squeezing onto the chromatic and classical English concertina bright, bouncy, tunes that just happily romped along on the old bush players' Anglos (and button accordions)!

If you were thinking of someone who immigrated to NSW that far back, it may be one of these older ICA types. If later (say ~ 1970) then I know some Australians who had gone to Britain to study, in the '60s, had become involved with the ICA and taken up English system concertina. One of those - "Skippy" (Rayford) Goninon - had a new 48-key English made by Crabb, with the custom-fretted metal ends that led to his nickname. (a kangaroo, in the design, was the only Australian motif they recognised ... and the TV program Skippy seems to have been inordinately popular in England!). Skippy had a lot of tuition from Alf Edwards - and came back with a tune: Ray's Tune in G, penned by Alf (and published by me in the Bush Music Club's Mulga Wire ... back in 1981!).

Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 12:47 PM

Interesting discussion Bob re Australian Bush music has anyone ever recorded it?
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 01:33 AM

G'day Alan,

Well, "Bush Music" is the local term for the older folk music, mostly from the country ("Bush") districts' older singers and players. Modern field collection, with tape recording, started with folklorist John Meredith around 1952/3. Many old players on the popular instruments (fiddle, concertina, button accordion) were recorded then ... and more over the half century since. Revival players have adopted much of this music and the Anglo has been used well by singer/players such as Dave de Hugard, Jacko Kevans, Bob Rummery, Peter Ellis. Younger players, in broader interpretations of traditional material have taken some of the old songs to higher leveel - and blended them into more modern (jazz-influenced) arrangements, such as those of Jo Cresswell ... unfortunately she is currently looking for a replacement for her 38-key Jeffreys, stolen from her home!

Probably the most accessible CDs of this end of music would be those of Dave de Hugard ... whose background was among the aeas where such music still survived the impact of radio and television ... but Dave plays both piano and button accordions as well as Anglo ... and mostly adds Anglo in mixed tracks with other instruments. (He did use my first [since stolen] 20-key Anglo, both in its original Bb/F tuning and with an excellent set of newly made D/G reeds by maker/repairer Richard Evans on his CD Magpie in the Wattle or ... maybe, it was on Magpie Morning ... ?). Dave's later CD Songs From the Wallaby Track is one of the few recordings I happily send to overseas friends as an example of good Australian traditional song and music. Dave also supplies one track to the Martyn Wyndham-Read (Australian)Song Links double CD/Book project ... unfortunately, however, that uses his button accordion, banjo and mouthorgan - but no Anglo!

Down at the (Australian) National Folk Festival in Canberra over Easter I picked up a CD Your Good Self, Australian Folk Masters, CS - AFM001 ... assembled from folklorist Chris Sullivan's field recording tracks of Dooley Chapman (1892 - 1982) a 'Bush' player of Anglo ... and mastered by the National Library of Australia. This has a good examples of traditional playing - melody, plus strong rhythmic use of "doubling" (octave playing) augmented by some chordal work across both rows ... but recorded in the last year of Dooley's long life! There's a lot to learn from such recordings, but you need the interpretation of such style by younger and more agile Anglo players.

Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 04:00 AM

Thanks for your reply Bob and the information,sadly I cannot include this music on this current collection as we are nearly there, apart from a few late recordings.It is certainly a small World,Martin Wyndham- Read is a good old friend of mine and used to have a little antiques shop about ten minutes from my house in a little village called Charlwood.Every year he does sell out concerts at Crawley (Sussex)performing "Maypoles to Mistletoe" with artists Iris Bishop superb Duet player and The Broadwood Morris men my old side who I played Anglo for.My favourite of his is "Andys Gone" and regularly put it on for a listen.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 07:09 AM

G'day Alan,

I quite understand that you have put together a substantial work ... and I'm not straining to get you to pop in something Australian. Rather, I'm very interested to hear what the top players can do with the instrument ... as well as a broad range of styles across the wide range of users of this very widespread and adaptable concertina (all too often "hijacked" by modern Irish players).

I often make the point that Australian styles of song and music were very much affected by the 19th century "tyranny of distance" - and formed around simple, durable and portable instruments. Many of our older musicians tell us just how important the concertina (almost invariably the Anglo) was to rural music and I encourage its use in modern revival folk music.

I'll be keenly awaiting news of the release of this CD set.

BTW: I see Martyn whenever he comes out here ... last year I got to see him at my local folk club and at several festivals (Our National and Cobargo) ... and I attended a master class, on accompaniment, with Iris Bishop at the National.

Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,SqueezeMe
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 10:56 AM

Alan

>I remember years ago a superb English system player emigrated to NSW but I lost contact with him and now cannot >even remember his name...

Not sure how far back you go, but....

If you are refering to 1950s ICA identities, could this be Alex Richards or possibly Matt Blades? Both now deceased, but were very fine exponents of the English system whom I had the pleasure to meet several times here in Australia.

Or of a slightly later vintage, Frank (?) Fingleton, who Tom Jukes once told me was the best *young* English concertina player he had ever heard. (Now that's quite a rap!) Although he lives only an hour or so away from where I now live, I have yet to meet him.

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 05:33 PM

Hi Malcolm
I am sure it was in the sixties he emigrated.Thinking back he was initially going to what must be the bush area.
I think even if you said his name I would not remember it now.
He was a great player and must have made a big impression when he arrived.
Are the Bushwackers group still going? They came to Charlwood and I later saw them at Sidmouth.A great group and I can remember everyone of them.The Anglo player of course and the guy on the Zob stick who played it so vigouresly he broke his wrist banging it on the stage.
The leader of the group who could tell a good monologue,all good fun.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,SqeezeMe
Date: 24 Apr 05 - 02:18 AM

My previous post should have read *Jim* Fingleton (not Frank).

Zob stick??? Presumably the lagerphone, played by Dobe Newton, I think the only original member still in the Bushwackers.

I saw them first at Sidmouth, must be 30 years ago now. I think the anglo player back then was Richard Doctors. Don't know if he's still playing. Bob will probably know more of the history than I do. Or somebody from Melbourne....

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 03:07 PM

Well the current news on this project is that after assembling all the recordings we are so pleased with the quality, that we have decided not to cut out some great playing but include it.We have therefore decided that this collection will be on three CDs not two.
They will be priced so that you can all afford it and when ready I will let you all know more details.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 08:19 AM

Just gets better !


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 12:11 PM

Even better is that the price will be well below the normal three CD rate.All these details and even the name has been changed, will be given when it is all completed.
My work being nearly finished I have started to play again after nearly six months of E mailing and listening to concertina playing.
I could think of worse things to do however.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 12:34 PM

You really ought to search out the music of virtuoso concertina player - Rob Harbron. He currently plays with Chris Wood as part of the English Accoustic Collective and with Dr Faustus. He is an absolute genious and has really pushed the bounderies of new concertina composition and accompaniment work.


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: treewind
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 03:12 PM

Rob Harbron is indeed a terrific player, but he plays English concertina, not the Anglo system which this project is specifically about.

Anahata


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: ConcertinaChap
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 04:34 PM

> Just gets better !

Doesn't it! Nice one, Alan.

Chris


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 08:47 AM

By a very wierd coincidence I have located John Watcham.John is quite famous for his recordings with The Albion Band and is a wonderful Anglo player.As we decided to go for a three CD collection it gave me a little bit of space.When I first started compiling names to play John was one of those names, but he could not be found.John dropped out of the Folk Scene some years ago and only plays for the Brighton Morris side.I had to do a concertina evening near to Brighton and his name was mentioned in conversation and his phone number was given to me.
John has agreed to come out of retirement and do me a Morris Dance set and the wonderful Trumpet and Air(Purcell)that I heard him play way back in the Mr Casey`s Bag days.A coincidence that I hope you will all enjoy.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,manitas
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 09:04 AM

Mr Gladstones Bag. John also plays for Albion Morris. He inherited most of Ken Loveless's concertinas so do ask if you can hear a few.


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 10:26 AM

Sorry you are right Mr Gladstones Bag,thanks for putting me right.
All the concertina information will be on the accompanying booklet and if he plays Rev Ken`s concertina I will let you know in that.
Thanks again
Al (in Casey`s Court)


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 05:59 PM

Just to update you all on this project.
We are still waiting for one final recording to come in expected early next week.One recording we received had technical problems that the artist or the sound engineer did not spot,but that has been rectified.Basically we have finished and a few early release copies of the three cd collection have gone out for artists to have a listen.
I can assure you that there is some remarkable playing to be heard and every Anglo player has a different style of playing to create interest.
The collection is now called ANGLO INTERNATIONAL and although we have been seriously delayed July is still the release date.
Graham Roots Records will advise you further as to where to purchase these.
After seven months my job is done and I look forward to your comments on something a bit different.
Al
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 07:06 PM

Hooray, Al! I know you've worked hard on this one. I can't wait to hear it!

Allison


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 11:30 AM

The final recording has now been received and the line up of artists is as follows
In no particular order
Noel Hill,Niall Vallely,John Kirkpatrick,Chris Sherburn,Roger Digby and Bob Davenport,Will Duke,Harry Scurfield and Matt Dennis,John Watcham,Andy Turner,Roger Edwards and The Threlfull Sisters,Mandy Murray,Alan Day and Mel Stevens,Mary McNamara,Kate McNamara,Zak Van de Vyver,Regardt de Bruin(South Africa),Frank Edgley(Canada),Tom Lawrence (USA),Jody Kruskal and his Contra Dance Band(USA),Bertram Levy (USA),Felix and Castor Castro Vicente (Spain).
Archive recordings from Scan Tester,Fred Kilroy,Nigel Chippendale,Andrew Blakeny Edwards and Zulu Squash box music.

This box set will come with a 48 page booklet with Photos of the concertinas being played and as much information as we could put on it.
It has now escaped from me and will be available towards the end of July it is called ANGLO INTERNATIONAL.
Details of costs and where to buy it will follow nearer the release date.We will try to keep the cost to a bare minimum so you will have no excuses not to have a copy.
I am looking forward to your future comments and discussion.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Charley Noble
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 08:26 PM

Alaan-

Congratulations! I'll also be eagerly awaiting this CD set.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 22 Jun 05 - 03:49 AM

Thanks for your support Charlie,
If the first reviews of advance copies are anything to go by Graham and I can stop worrying about it.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Uncle Jaque
Date: 22 Jun 05 - 03:25 PM

I'd love to hear what an anglo is supposed to sound like (other than at the rare sea-chanty sessions we have up here in Maine, where Curmudgeon gives a fine performance on occasion).

Have been bringing my unmarked anglo (probably a bastari - don't know for sure) out on the porch to noodle around on while waiting for the barbeque to burn. Havn't really got anything ready to go public yet, but close enough on a few tunes by ear so as to have fun with it!


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 25 Jul 05 - 10:32 AM

Just to give you a final update on this project.
The 48 page booklet is finished and being printed and will please many of you who like details of instruments etc and many of the concertinas being played have been photographed giving keys etc as well as photos of the players and tune details etc.
We have hit a problem with the master recording not matching the original and approved version.It would appear to be a computer error,but we are determined to get this correct and it would be a disaster for it to be wrong after all this work.
Graham and my old band Rosbif have come across this problem before and I would stress to any of you who are making CDs to check the master recording before cutting as it is too late after the event.
The result is a put back of the release date by about two weeks to mid August.
Trust me when I say it is worth waiting for, but you will all be the judge of that.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 11:42 PM

G'day Alan,

Well, August has midded past ... how's the re-master shaped up?

As well, have you had any thoughts about letting the CD set be distributed state-side, say, through Dick Greehaus's Camsco music (which helps to support the Mudcat) ... making it a lot easier for our American cousins to hear what the Anglo can really do? (Not that they don't have some lovely Anglo players ... I just like the idea of a keen player from the instrument's homeland picking the best from all its traditional and new homes!)

Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Fidjit
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 05:49 AM

Wow! This sounds great. Looking forward to getting my hands on a set. Good luck with it all.


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: pavane
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 07:31 AM

Uncle Jacque - search out a copy of 'The Art of William Kimber' recorded (by BBC?) in 1936 and 1946, and issued on LP in the 1970's. It is well worth a listen.

William Kimber was the musician for Headington Quarry Morris Men, and was the man who in 1899 triggered Cecil Sharp's interest in folk music, and the subsequent recovery and revival of the Morris Dance traditions.


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 01:42 PM

Good timing ,the master recordings have been done and sent to the manufacturers to be made.The 48 page booklet has already been printed.Estimated time 10-14 days from now.The Sound Engineers wife has had the baby which was one of the delays.I did not realise the Anglo was that versatile !
Graham (Roots Records) or myself will let you know when we have them and where to buy them.It will be great to hear your comments.
The collection will be called ANGLO INTERNATIONAL
The final line up
John Kirkpatrick,Noel Hill, Niall Valleley,John Watcham,Roger Digby,Harry Scurfield,Regardt de Bruin,Roger Edwards,Will Duke,Andy Turner,Mary McNamara,Kate McNamara,Mandy Murray, Frank Edgley,Tom Lawrence, Jody Kruskal,Bertram Levy,Zak van de Vyver,Felix Castro Vicente.
Archive recordings, some very rare, Andrew Blakeny-Edwards,Nigel Chippendale,Fred Kilroy,Scan Tester,Zulu Squash Box music.
And a little bit from me.

Nearly all the recordings are new or from recordings now out of print.
Most have recorded for this collection.
If we could have found some new archive recordings of William Kimber they would have been included but all his recordings are easily obtained as the recent posting shows.
Thank you all for you interest.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 05:24 PM

Sorry missed Chris Sherburn out of the line up and with two stunning tracks,one of which live with his band.
Another slapped wrist !
Also sorry I keep repeating myself,I should read properly my past postings.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 08:03 AM

Alan, you're a top geezer. You can repeat yourself as much as you like.


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 11:56 AM

Well at last I can inform you that from Wednesday of next week
"ANGLO INTERNATIONAL" will be available from ROOTS RECORDS via a new website set up for this project "angloconcertina.co.uk
On this site will be all the details from the 48 page booklet we are enclosing with each three CD set, so you will have a chance to read all the details of the artists and tunes etc.Links for other overseas outlets will be on the site e.g. Button Box.
The website will not be opened until probably Tues or Wed 16th-17th August this is the expected day of arrival of the CDs from the manufacturers.UK price details will be on the site as a special offer and also at a reduced price for all International Concertina Assoc members.
This CD set has not just been made for Anglo concertina players it has a very varied content and a "good listen" was our original aim.
Thank you all for your support, encouragement and patience.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 12:10 PM

Sorry I actually meant 13th or 14th of September
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 12:36 AM

G'day Alan,

is that URL prefixed "www" ... I tried that form (www.angloconcertina.co.uk) and got this message:

You are not authorized to view this page
You might not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied.


Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 03:32 AM

Too early Bob it will not open until Graham gets the CDs from the manufacturers,probably 13th or 14th of Sept,
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: treewind
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 04:17 AM

Thanks for the background info on the aims behind the album. This will come in useful as I'll be writing a review for Shreds and Patches magazine when the CDs are finally released.

(and thereby get myself a free copy. Hooray!)

Anahata


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 04:54 AM

Anahata if you send me your details or contact Graham he will send you a copy with pleasure.You can get me via Concertina.net and just click on my name and I will organise it.Graham will read this and may have your details anyway.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 07:23 AM

G'day Alan,

How's the release going ...? "www.angloconcertina.co.uk" still declares:

You are not authorized to view this page
You might not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied.


... and it is now the 16th of September ... even over there! (Maybe there's a secret code ... a cunning handshake ... ?)

Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: treewind
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 07:49 AM

Thanks Alan but shouldn't be needed - Sheila Mainwaring (editor of Shreds and Patches) should be getting a review copy which she'll send on to me.

If there's a problem with that I'll be in touch via concertina.net...

Anahata


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 09:51 AM

"(Maybe there's a secret code ... a cunning handshake ... ?)"

Bob

It's a cunning stunt... I think...


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 11:30 AM

No secret code or secret handshake required only the CDs.
Graham did not want to open up the webpage until he had them and once again there has been a delay.This time by the couriers,we understand we will get them on Monday.I never realised that a project like this could get delayed so much.I am now ready for a Customs swoop,illegal immigrants in the van,a puncture,no diesel,
a French Channel crossing closure etc etc.
Watch this space.
Now about that special handshake ????
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 08:51 AM

Well ... at least I get some strange sidelights when the 'Cat is down and I can't even check the correct URL - so I try small variants ...

I typed in: www.angloconcertina.com ... and got a Spanish (?) saddler ... ?

Regard(les)s,

Bob


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 10:50 AM

As soon as it can be opened I will let you know.
I will also explain the secrets at the same time,with the necessary password and handshake.(I have been told Monday by the Spanish Saddler)
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 08:07 PM

Is he a cousin of the Tenterfield Saddler?


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 04:12 AM

I have just found out I have a personal page.
My apologies to all who have sent me messages and I have not replied to them,particularly Bob.
So much to learn
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 01:44 PM

I have checked with Graham and I can confirm Anahata that a copy is going to Shreds and Patches.I bet you don`t give it back to them.
If Graham gets time it may go out next week,I have said that before though,keep your fingers crossed,except when your playing.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 10:39 AM

I can now confirm that the "Anglo International" site is open
www.angloconcertina.co.uk
It requires no special handshake,rolling up trouser legs or other secrets to open it.
The booklet details will follow in a few days,if however you are impatient, I can email them if you send me your Email address.(You will need Broadband as it is a very large file).
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 09:50 PM

G'day Alan,

Welcome to "The Joys of Publishing" (and hoping it all compensates for "The Ulcers of Publishing ... ")!

I take it that you cookie-less state excuses you from providing the clamouring throng with a quick "Blickie" connection:

Anglo Concertina 3-CD Set.

Now let's all buy a few copies to redeem your mortgage!

Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 10:01 PM

G'day again Alan,

Errr.. No hot link to publisher ... sales page ... even just a downloadable order form - with price and post/pack details ... ?

I know we (folkies ... Mudcatters ... people who play lovely 19th/early-20th c. instruments ... &c) are a notorious bunch of luddites - but we also need to grab the masses who don't even know how wonderful this music is (not to mention us, on the wrong end of "The Tyranny of Distance".

The site looks nice ... but it needs to do more to earn its keep!

Regard(les)s,

Bob in the deep Antipodes


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 05:37 PM

I have passed your comments on to Graham, Bob and I will get him to reply,but I think all the points you raised are in hand,together with the booklet for information only,the CDs will have a booklet enclosed.
I look forward to an Australian comment on the CDs.
For information one of the tunes we have included on the CD is Mel Stevens and myself playing Rosbif Waltz,this little tune was featured on this site as being popular in Australia and the group "Rosbif" was initially thought to be Canadian which it isn`t.It was this initial interest in Rosbif that prompted me to ring Graham Bradshaw who distributed the Rosbif records and it started this project off.I will let you know after the initial comments about the CDs if I owe MUDCAT and Australian Mudcatters a thank you.( I think I do).
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,GrahamBradshaw
Date: 29 Sep 05 - 06:27 AM

Just to let you know Bob, the site now has ordering information, plus a downloadable order form. Secure online ordering will be coming soon.
For those that want to know more, the booklet is downloadable in its entirety as a pdf file.
The first impressions from the early listeners have been very encouraging.
Website isAnglo International


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 29 Sep 05 - 08:21 PM

This will have to go on my wishlist...


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 30 Sep 05 - 05:35 PM

Grahams link does not seem to be working I suggest the original
rolled up trouser leg one www.angloconcertina.co.uk
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 06:15 PM

Bob I have just found locked in another site hundreds of old Emails one of which was yours,my apologies for not getting back to you.

Annahata did you receive your copy of Anglo International OK?
If not please let me know.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 06:06 AM

I just got mine a few days ago and I can't stop listening to it! Each disk is unique and beautiful- I was aware that there were many styles of this instrument (I've been playing for less than 2 years) but had no idea of the scope. This is a monumental project and well worth the acquisition.

The archival recordings are exquisitely remastered; the modern ones are taken from a variety of sources, but the balance and consistency of sound make the transitions seamless. (I noticed this because I'm in the middle of a cd compilation project myself, so hat's off to the engineers of this one!)

From Scan Tester, to Zulu concertina playing, to John Kirkpatrick, Bertram Levy, Mary Macnamara, Jody Kruskal- the list goes on and on. I can't stop listening to it- in the car, when I'm in the bath; I take it with me to work and bring it home so I can hear it while cooking supper. I love this cd!!!

I can't speak for UK or OZ residents, but here in NA we can buy it easily at The Button Box , where for now it's on their front page.

If you have any interest in instruments that go "squeeze", this is one you really want to own.


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 05:48 PM

Thank you Allison for your lovely review.
I am really pleased you like all the artists and the way it is put together,it is something Graham and I were nervous about but you have us feel a lot better.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 07:25 AM

Although this 3 CD set is aimed at the Concertina Market it is being acclaimed by non Concertina players.It is now going out in a steady flow for Xmas presents,which is superb.
ANGLO INTERNATIONAL is to be featured in a large Folk Festival next year in concert format and will also include workshops during the day.
More details of this event will follow as artists are booked and will include those who are mainly featured on the CDs.
Thank you all for your support.
Al


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,GrahamBradshaw
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 11:05 AM

Alan is right - they are flying out. Anybody interested can find details on www.angloconcertina.co.uk.
The festival plans are advancing well - we plan to hold events at several Summer festivals in 2006. Confirmed so far are Warwick Folk Festival, who will be holding an Anglo Concertina convention on the Saturday (22nd July). There will be a major concert featuring artists from Anglo International, plus workshops during the day. There will be details on the festival website when it is all tied down. www.warwickfolkfestival.co.uk


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Nov 14 - 04:09 AM

Out of the blue (an article on the BBC pages about long beards) I thought of Jim "Fingo" Fingleton, who played in the Wild Colonial Boys back in the late 1960s/early 70s. Then I found a mention of him in Mudcat, in connection with with Alan's Anglo CD. He had a long beard and was a great Anglo player, but also played spoons, two spoons in each hand. You can see him here: The Wild Colonial Boys "From Glenrowan to the Gulf" This was probably the first LP I bought of Aussie music, with Jim Fingleton (concertina, lagerphone, spoons), Jacko Kevans (accordion), Tony Lavin (bush bass, i.e. tea chest bass), Bob McInnes (fiddle, banjo mandolin, tin whistle) Bill Morgan (6 & 12 string guitar). Bob lived just round the corner from me in Canberra and "encouraged" me to play the fiddle (just learning in 1971 I was nevertheless the only other fiddle player in Canberra for a while, except possibly for Tom Rummery, who was also a concertina player). Jim had studied law at the Australian National University and by the time I moved to Canberra he was in the Papua-New Guinea Legal Service, so I only ever met him once or twice. Ahhh! Happy Days, the days of my youth!


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Nov 14 - 04:12 AM

ps That last post, about Jim Fingleton and The Wild Colonial Boys was ME! Chris Shaw E:chris@gigcb.com


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Subject: RE: The versatility of the Anglo Concertina
From: GUEST,Howard Jones
Date: 17 Nov 14 - 06:45 AM

At university I knew someone who had worked in Papua New Guinea, where he was a didiman. This is pidgin for an agricultural adviser, but to Brits it brings up images of comedian Ken Dodd


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