Subject: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl as sung by Ron Akehurst From: Charley Noble Date: 20 Apr 05 - 01:54 PM I had the rare pleasure of hearing Two Black Sheep & a Stallion (UK) at the South Street Seaport Chantey Swap last weekend in NYC. One of the drinking songs that Ron Akehurst led was called "The Pub Crawl" which describes in lurid details a father challenges his son to this traditional competition. I'm no longer sure how many pubs were mentioned, certainly more than a dozen, with the chorus getting longer and longer, and occasionally backtracking to pick up a few that had been missed. Someone must have the words to this splendid song. Other members of the group include Martin Bartlett and Peter Outhart. I believe they've based somewhere around York on the east coast of England. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl as sung by Ron Akehurst From: GUEST,Leadfingers Date: 20 Apr 05 - 02:18 PM Sounds like 'Doing the Manch' - Keith Marsdens song about The Manchester Road , from the centre of Bradford to Hodstow(?) Top . As performed by Cockersdale , and in the book of Keith's songs - 'Picking Sooty Blackberries'. I believe Keith wrote the song in response to a challenhe to mention EVERY pub on the road . |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl as sung by Ron Akehurst From: breezy Date: 20 Apr 05 - 03:44 PM 'Doin the Manch' it is 'I was 18 when me Dad first took me to a pub and I've never ever seen him quite so mad.... Follow the Leadfingers to Odsal top If you aint got your copies, get em , theys 'eritage Odsal stadium |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl as sung by Ron Akehurst From: breezy Date: 20 Apr 05 - 03:46 PM plus words by Willie Shakespeare its on page 99 |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl as sung by Ron Akehurst From: GUEST,Charley Noble Date: 20 Apr 05 - 04:04 PM Looks like the usual eagle eyes have nailed this one. It is called "Doin' the Manch" and I will try to follow up on the leads. Thanks so much. Here's to you! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl as sung by Ron Akehurst From: GUEST Date: 20 Apr 05 - 04:13 PM Our pleasure Charley ! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl as sung by Ron Akehurst From: GUEST,Charley Noble Date: 21 Apr 05 - 11:43 AM Seems like the best I can do is order Keith Marsden's songbook: Picking Sooty Blackberries Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl as sung by Ron Akehurst From: GUEST,MMario Date: 21 Apr 05 - 11:49 AM I could have sworn it was posted somewhere on the forum. - |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl as sung by Ron Akehurst From: GUEST,MMario Date: 21 Apr 05 - 12:05 PM ah-HAH! Supersearch came back just in time: see this post |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl as sung by Ron Akehurst From: Herga Kitty Date: 21 Apr 05 - 06:55 PM And Trayton has written a parody about eating houses (doing the Munch)... Kitty |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl as sung by Ron Akehurst From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 21 Apr 05 - 08:19 PM So.... |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Ron Akeh From: stallion Date: 07 Oct 05 - 07:39 PM Indeed it was "the manch" written by the late and great Kieth Marsden. It isn't usually in our set and i certainly don't remember doing it at the chanty sing, ron sings it when elevated by the intake of copious quantities of beer, hence, if i were matching him pint for pint, there is no way i could have remembered it! regards Peter. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Ron Akehurst From: GUEST,Pat Cooksey. Date: 07 Oct 05 - 07:54 PM I have this in my own collection of C.D.'s with my own songs on it, NOWTH SO FUNNY AS FOLK, the song is sung by Cockersdale, never heard of them but it sounds good. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Ron Akeh From: open mike Date: 07 Oct 05 - 07:59 PM malcolm did this at sunny camp you can't have very many brews and still remember it all!! mario's post leads to a thread about a song Is ar eirinn ni n-eosfhainn ce hi the English words which I believe are "For Ireland I'll not say her name" sounds like a different song-- the other one is british, not irish, at all, at all |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Ron Akehurst From: 12string growler Date: 08 Oct 05 - 02:49 PM Keith Marsden unfortunately passed away some years ago, but his group Cockersdale still endure. Try getting in touch with Graham Pirt, he is a member of Cockersdale. I am sorry I don't have contact details for him but if you do a google search on Sam Pirt, that is his very amiable son and extremely capable accordion player. I feel sure he will put you in touch, I suspect he may well be a 'Catter too. Chris |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Ron Akeh From: gnomad Date: 09 Oct 05 - 07:26 AM The Cockersdale website has the book for sale at £10-00 sterling or $20-00 US, both inclusive of postage & packing. Well worth the price IMO. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Ron Akehurst From: Dave Hanson Date: 09 Oct 05 - 09:17 AM Far too cheap for such a good book. eric |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Ron Akehurst From: Charley Noble Date: 09 Oct 05 - 03:08 PM I've been having trouble purchasing the songbook from commercial websites. Is it really currently available from the Cockersdale website? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Ron Akeh From: stallion Date: 09 Oct 05 - 04:45 PM i'll get ron to write it outand i'll post a copy, ok peter |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Ron Akehurst From: The Badger Date: 09 Oct 05 - 07:51 PM I trust Ron is crediting the song to Keith when performing! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Ron Akehurst From: Charley Noble Date: 10 Oct 05 - 09:05 AM Sure wish there was a way to sort the posting to threads by date. What a mish-mash! Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Ron Akehurst From: yrlancslad Date: 10 Oct 05 - 03:10 PM Thanks for remembering open mike and I really had a good time at Sunny Camp what a lot of great talent! Just to wrap up, Doin' the Manch was written by Keith Marsden about the pubs on that stretch of Manchester Road leading out of Bradford city centre up to the top of the hill known as Odsal Top, there being 28 in all 27 of which I think are named in the song.It's usual for stag nights to set out to do a gill(see Byker Hill and Walker Shore thread) in every one, real heroes might attempt a pint! Cockersdale was Keiths group up until his premature death from heart attack at the age I believe of 43.Their CDs are available from Fellside including the one with Doin' the Manch on it and several of Keiths other great songs many of which, unfortuneately are too local in content to be sung much here in the States,most of them are published together with backgroun info in the book "Pickin' sooty blackberries" which was available from Amazon last time I checked |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Ron Akehurst From: Herga Kitty Date: 11 Oct 05 - 03:12 PM Yes, and of course Keith wrote "Bring us a barrel" which is often mistakenly attributed to "Trad." Kitty PS and yes, Sam Pirt is a Catter |
Subject: Lyr Add: DOIN' THE MANCH (Keith Marsden) From: Charley Noble Date: 11 Oct 05 - 08:41 PM OK, I've gotten tired of waiting for someone to post the lyrics to this great song. Here's the whole thing: DOIN' THE MANCH (Words and music by Yorkshire singer-songwriter Keith Marsden (1939-1991) Co-founder of singing group Cockersdale Songs are collected in PICKING SOOTY BLACKBERRIES) I was eighteen when my dad first took me to a pub, And I've never, ever seen him quite so mad. "A pint of your usual, sir" the barman said, But he was asking me, not Dad. "Now if surfeiting the appetite will sicken and so die, I'll not long have a boozer for a son. They say there's twenty-seven pubs from here to Odsal Top And tonight we'll have a pint in every one." We kicked off at the Majestic. Little Alex kicked us out When Dad said he was scared what he might catch. We didn't mean to set on fire the White Swan and the Devonshire But Dad was always careless with his match-es. The Oddfellows knew we'd been. We caused a riot in the Queen, But I was right till Dad said then: "We should have had a nip in the Blue Lion and the Griffin, So we'll have to go back down and start again. "We should have had a nip in the Blue Lion and the Griffin, So we'll go back down and do the Manch again." We thought we'd make a start with a quiet game of darts Before we'd gone a beer too far, But we were slinging arrows in the Albany snug, And the board was in the public bar. There were arrows in the ceiling. There were arrows in the walls. There were arrows in the barmaid's thigh, Till a very ugly landlord with a very ugly club Suggested we should both go forth and multiply. Broken glasses they were counting as we slipped out of the Fountain And the Toll Bar crowd were still in hot pursuit. In the fighting, father all but killed the landlord of the Talbot When the silly bugger criticised his suit. And we were walking on our knees by the time we reached the Fleece, But I was right till Dad said then: "Like it, lad, or lump it, we have missed the Horse and Trumpet, So we'll have to go back down and start again. "We should have had a nip in the Blue Lion and the Griffin. Like it, lad, or lump it we have missed the Horse and Trumpet, So we'll go back down and do the Manch again." Just then we chanced to meet a young lady of the street, And Lord, had she some lovely wares to sell! Unfortunately, Dad was somewhat sick upon her dog, For after fourteen pints he wasn't feeling well. As he searched for his teeth, he found the dog underneath, Jumped back and knocked the poor woman flat. "I've had pork pies, pints, pickled eggs and peas tonight, But I can't remember eating that!" Well, the Station and the Junction then both showed us no compunction When they threw us in the street upon our ears. We'd all sorts of hell on in the New Inn and the Nelson, And we had the Wickham landlord close to tears. As newts we were pissed as when we staggered into Listers But I was right till Dad said then: "Trouble now of course is, we forgot t'Waggon and Horses, So we'll have to go back down and start again. "We should have had a nip in the Blue Lion and the Griffin. Like it, lad, or lump it, we have missed the Horse and Trumpet. Trouble now of course is, we forgot t'Waggon and Horses, So we'll go back down and do the Manch again." Then Dad pinched a bulldozer so that we could ride in style, But he flattened three police cars straight away. His driving wasn't polished and in no time he'd demolished Hong Kong Harry's corner Chinese take-away. As the Chinee with his chopper chased us up to Chellow Street, His nearness to my necktie wasn't nice. When my breath began to steady, I said, "He were mad enough already. Did you have to order curried cat and rice?" We had Whitbread's. We had Webster's. We had Hammond's. We had Hey's. We had John Smith's and Sam Smith's too. We were right bloody gluttons with some OBJ by Dutton's And Bass both red and blue. We had Inde Coope and Allsop's and some Ramsden's that was all slops, But I was right till Dad said then: "We missed out all the Bentley's. We've not had a drop of Tetley's, So we'll have to go back down and start again. "We should have had a nip in the Blue Lion and the Griffin. Like it, lad, or lump it, we have missed the Horse and Trumpet. Trouble now of course is, we forgot t'Waggon and Horses. We missed out all the Bentley's. we've not had a drop of Tetley's, So we'll go back down and do the Manch again." The police with a van cleared the Yorkshire Divan, The landlord and his wife and kids as well. The Foresters was quiet. There was not a sign of riot, For the customers were all inside the cells. There were Specials running up the street and firemen running down. Troops and tanks were standing by at Odsal Top. Some nuns who came to pray for peace just stayed to sober up the priest Who'd got so drunk he tried to kiss a cop. There was still a hue and cry in both the Woodman and Red Lion, And the Craven Heifer tried to bar the door. We thought we might get drunk if we'd another in the Truncliffe So we thought we'd better have one to be sure. As we fell through the doors, on all fours at Mary Shaws, I was right till Dad said then: "You can have a little rest, now you're halfway through the test. Then we'll have to go back down and start again. "We should have had a nip in the Blue Lion and the Griffin. Like it, lad, or lump it, we have missed the Horse and Trumpet. T'trouble now of course is, we forgot t'Waggon and Horses. We missed out all the Bentley's. We've not had a drop of Tetley's. You can have a little rest, now you're halfway through the test, Then we'll go back down and do the Manch again. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Ron Akehurst From: Jim Dixon Date: 16 Oct 05 - 04:14 PM I hope that wasn't a lot of work for you, Charley. Lyrics were already posted here: DOIN' THE MANCH |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Ron Akehurst From: GUEST,Paul Withers. Date: 17 Feb 12 - 06:28 AM Was trying to find out something about the Blue Lion on Manchester Road. Then this turned up on google. Alas, can't publish that in the book I'm writing, but they must have been strong lads if they could remember it well enough to sing that after 14 pints ! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Ron Akehurst From: stallion Date: 18 Feb 12 - 04:50 AM Blimey this has thread has resurfaced, indeed most of the places we sing at are well acquainted with K.M's. work, he has written some absolutely wonderful songs and will last for years so usually in performance mode the credit comes in the introduction, those niceties do not usually extend to sessions unless someone asks the provenance. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Marsden) From: GUEST Date: 03 Jul 13 - 10:10 AM 8 years late in responding (maybe someone beat me to it...) but "Hodstow" should be Odsal Top, site of Bradford Rugby ground and Speedway Stadium. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Marsden) From: Leadfingers Date: 03 Jul 13 - 11:47 AM Maidenhead Folk Club has a long tradition of quality parody , starting with the late great Dave Houlden and now continuing with Malcolm Austen who has an excellent parody of 'Doing The Manch' about Fast Food Eating places. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Marsden) From: Herga Kitty Date: 04 Jul 13 - 12:47 AM Indeed, Terry - as mentioned in my post of 21 April 05! Haven't heard Malc sing this for a long time though.... Kitty |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pub Crawl / Doin' the Manch (Marsden) From: Charley Noble Date: 04 Jul 13 - 06:22 PM And it's a song well worth singing again! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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