Folk artists who are teetotal

Subject: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Santa
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 12:26 PM

I suspect this could be a short thread.

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: GUEST,padgett (at home)
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 12:28 PM

probably Les Barker

Tom Mcconville certainly!

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Leadfingers
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 12:30 PM

I dont drink any more !





























The problem is , I dont drink any less !!

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: kendall
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 12:52 PM

Tommy Makem

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Deckman
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 12:54 PM

For certain you can add David Maloney, of "Riley and Maloney." An incredible person and writer and singer and performer. (yes, I'm a fan). Bob

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: PoppaGator
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 01:05 PM

I would expect to hear from a fair number of recovering alcoholics ~ folks who used to drink, learned that they couldn't handle it, and now avoid alcohol completely. I know plenty of middle-aged musicians (not necessarily folkies) who fit into this category. Spending lots of time in barrooms is an occupational hazard for these guys, of course, but they generally manage to control themselves, ordering plenty of soft drinks and bottled water at inflated bar prices (which undoubtedly pleases the bar owners).

The number of lifelong teetotalers ~ those who have never taken a drink ~ is undoubtedly much smaller, perhaps negligible.

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: GUEST,padgett (at home)
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 02:07 PM

Water in pubs is becoming an issue

long periods spent in pubs drinking alcohol is part and parcel but can anyone enlighten re water being supplied at NO COST in UK pubs please by those who know


That is is it lawful to charge for Tap water in a pub and can the landlord refuse to serve the customer or charge for it?

Anyone got chapter and verse, so to speak

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Frankham
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 05:12 PM

I am. I don't really understand what the purpose of this thread is outside of curiosity. I don't judge or condemn anyone who drinks. If they have an alcohol problem then I hope they can free themselves from this disease. I used to drink wine and beer but never really liked it and gave it up.

If people enjoy it and they don't inflict drunkeness on others why not?
If they stay sober behind the wheel and they enjoy a glass of wine with their dinner or a beer now and again who can criticize that?

I don't go to bars and clubs because of the tobacco smoke. If it were truly smoke-free and not embedded in the walls I would probably go there as a tee-totaler. I would order club soda or seltzer water.

Frank

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Naemanson
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 05:15 PM

I am not a teeTOTALLER. But I am a teePARTIALER. I only drink when I am singing with friends. The beer seems to do a better job of lubricating the pipes....

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: frogprince
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 05:28 PM

Is Penny Lang still going out there; enjoyed her greatly in concert a few years ago. Several of her songs reflected her severe disillusionment with "firewater", obviously based on hard personal experience, whether as an alcoholic or family member I don't know.

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 05:42 PM

well thats us Hull lot out of it then!

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Beer
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 11:02 PM

Penny is doing great. Lots of gigs, concerts,festivals and so on. As far as her personel self it is no one's business but hers.
Beer

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: JedMarum
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 11:29 PM

I am.

Never drank a lot. I enjoyed a beer or wine or two but stopped altogether when I was 40.

Working as a musician, now-a-days being a non-drinker is an advantage. No issues driving late, no problems with late hours, no feeling tired in the AM ...

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 01:00 AM

Never cared for the stuff. Tried it once when I was about fourteen and found its results unpleasant. Used to have the bartenders send me lemonade (with a twist) when folks wanted to buy me a drink back in the dark ages when I was still working the occasional bar job. Worked the same consumer rip-off when I sang at the Limelite in Aspen. I've no idea what the bartenders charged the generous customers, but I'll bet it was for more than just a lemonade.
    Used to sing for fun at the Blind Lemon in Berkeley where the pay was a pitcher of beer. I sang, and my (now) wife drank the beer. That was okay, as it made her delightfully amorous. Sufficient reward!
    Quit doing bar jobs back in 1960 and never regretted it. I don't care a fig about what other folks choose to do for recreation, but drinkin' ain't for me.

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: GUEST,Nellie Clatt
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 04:37 AM

This is true heresy, you can;t have folk music without a drop of the crathur, holy water, the gargle etc.

I love it and I'll drink anything legal or illegal.

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: breezy
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 05:10 PM

Martin Carthy ???

I had to supply Orange juice.


Me,


Chris Flegg.


Christine Connolley.

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: frogprince
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 06:19 PM

Glad to hear that of Penny, Beer, and apologies if it sounded like I meant to poke around in the good lady's personal life. I asked if she was still performing only because, like a lot of us, she's not real young.

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 06:29 PM

I've never had a problem requesting a pint glass of tap water before going on to do a spot at any British pub. I think the law is that no pub can refuse water to a traveller, certainly that was true in the past.

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Brían
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 06:57 PM

I have had bartenders explain to me that they charged for a glass of water because it cost money to wash the glass. I usually tip any server anyway. I know of only one musician friend who never drank in his life although I know many who have given it up.

Brían

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 07:50 PM

Frogprince,
Apoligies well accepted. Check out Penny's web site and you'll get a good idea as to what is happening .
Beer

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Willie-O
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 08:01 PM

Point of fact, Penny is not at all private about this subject. Her dad is (was?) an oldtime country singer with a drinking problem. She wrote and recorded a song about it called "Daddy don't sing sober anymore", said she sang it for him and they both cried, but "it was a good cry."

Reminds me, FWIW, of another name for the list: Dick Gaughan. (Why the connection? I saw them together in a workshop once. It was very cool. He was hosting and she played some song that had so much of the real spirit in it, he just told her "Accch, Penny, do anither one." A good call.)

W-O
Stopped drinking for three years, probably should stop again, but what the hell. I yam what I yam.

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 12:33 AM

I used to drink lightly. When I hit my 30's it started to make me ill before I got anywhere near to a light buzz, so I stopped. I've never looked back. Like Sandy, I stopped playing in bars years ago. It's just not woth it.

Stephen Lee

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 01:19 AM

Did you ever read about the Candian Indian cheif that drunk 187 cups of tea?

They found him dead the next day......

Drowned in his teepee.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Santa
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 10:53 AM

Frankham: You asked about the purpose of the thread outside of curiosity. Well, curiosity is a pretty good reason, and there has been some interesting responses. However, the purpose of the thread was humour. I had just seen "Folk artists who are pagan", "Folk artists who are vegan" and "Folk artists who are...." (I forget the last one). It then seemed a reasonably amusing follow-on. Strictly, I suspect all four threads should be in the lower section, but until the board moderators rule and shift them there, long may they continue.

One point that might have arisen is that of booze before/during performances. I do know some artists who confine themselves to water/fruit juice/whatever then, without being teetotal at other times.

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: rhyzla
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 11:15 AM

I always have one beer before playing, it seems to loosen everything up - apart from the waistband on the trousers!!

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 02:44 PM

Can somebody tell me why this matters? Who cares if they are drinkers, pagans, overweight or little green men???

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Hamish
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 03:31 PM

'Nuther tea-PARTIALER. If I ask for a pint of tap water, I always ask for some ridiculously-over-priced soft drink FIRST. Quite often ask for a cup of tea. Tee-hee.

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Peace
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 03:48 PM

Hey, Beer. When you see the gal (Penny), send her my regards.

Bruce Murdoch

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: breezy
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 04:21 PM

Hamish Currie

and

Me


Bob Fox


ha ha

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 05:00 PM

They never charge for tap water in our Wetherspoons. (Of course they don't allow music either - no connection.)

Here's a link to a great song Matt McGinn wrote about drinking ower much - Troubled Waters Of course Matt wasn't teetotal. More's the pity as it turned out.

I suppose the most widely sung temperance, or even teetotal, song - though it's rare that anyone reads it that way - is that fine old Norfolk song, the Wild Rover.

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Lester
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 06:06 PM

I'm the only teetotal Morris dancer I know. As a teetotal musician it's great to be the best player left at the end of an alcoholic session but it's just a shame no one else notices :-)

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Beer
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 08:33 PM

Bruce,
You can be sure that I will. Your name has come up several times in conversation. She is highlighting our festival this coming July.
A truly great person.
Beer

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Peace
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 12:50 AM

Thanks, Beer.

She was always a neat gal and fine performer/singer. Many decades ago I sent her a telegram for her first night at a great club in Montreal. It read, "Dear Penny, a warm hand on your opening." The Emcee was kind enough to read it aloud during her introduction to the audience. (She has a wonderful sense of humour, too.)

Hope the festival enjoys great success.

BM

Subject: RE: Folk artists who are teetotal
From: Folkiedave
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 04:16 AM

Surprised no-one seems to have mentioned Dick Gaughan.

Dave