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Rapparee 28 Apr 05 - 03:01 PM
Bill D 28 Apr 05 - 03:13 PM
Clinton Hammond 28 Apr 05 - 03:29 PM
Stilly River Sage 28 Apr 05 - 03:37 PM
Rapparee 28 Apr 05 - 04:36 PM
Peter T. 28 Apr 05 - 05:29 PM
John Hardly 28 Apr 05 - 05:34 PM
Jim Dixon 28 Apr 05 - 06:21 PM
Willie-O 28 Apr 05 - 08:09 PM
robomatic 28 Apr 05 - 08:13 PM
Rapparee 28 Apr 05 - 10:29 PM
KathWestra 28 Apr 05 - 10:36 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 28 Apr 05 - 11:04 PM
SINSULL 28 Apr 05 - 11:56 PM
Charley Noble 29 Apr 05 - 09:24 AM
Bobert 29 Apr 05 - 09:48 AM
Stilly River Sage 29 Apr 05 - 10:23 AM
Rapparee 29 Apr 05 - 10:34 AM
GUEST,Dale 29 Apr 05 - 11:11 AM
clueless don 29 Apr 05 - 02:11 PM
GUEST,MMario 29 Apr 05 - 02:36 PM
John Hardly 29 Apr 05 - 02:49 PM
John Hardly 29 Apr 05 - 02:52 PM
GUEST,observer 29 Apr 05 - 04:11 PM
GUEST,harp 29 Apr 05 - 04:54 PM
mandoleer 29 Apr 05 - 04:56 PM
Jim Dixon 29 Apr 05 - 05:00 PM
GUEST,Arkie 29 Apr 05 - 05:28 PM
ranger1 29 Apr 05 - 08:19 PM
GUEST,leeneia 29 Apr 05 - 10:29 PM
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Subject: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 03:01 PM

Here!! And a Quicktime video, too!


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 03:13 PM

well...we can hope. It might be a hybrid, or just a big Pileated....that video is not exactly conclusive.


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 03:29 PM

flying cat-food


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 03:37 PM

This is good news if it's true. While it's nice to know there may still be some around, the news of their location may increase stresses on their habitat as birders flock to see them (so to speak).

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 04:36 PM

I'm not sure Science would have reported it if they hadn't been pretty sure about it. I've also heard for some time that there have been sightings in that area.

It's hopeful, anyway!


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Peter T.
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 05:29 PM

This is such good news, it takes the breath away. Wonderful bird, immense search. It is a pity everything has to go practically extinct before anyone pays attention (cf. blues singers).

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: John Hardly
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 05:34 PM

I was going to post this good news earlier today. Cheers!


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 06:21 PM

Wonderful. I once saw a pileated woodpecker and was thrilled. Now, is there any hope for the passenger pigeon? The Tasmanian tiger?


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Willie-O
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 08:09 PM

Recently I saw a woodpecker (red-headed) doing some merry damage to a heavily pressure-treated (ie poisonous) hydro pole. They're not supposed to like that stuff.

Gives you pause for thought...


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: robomatic
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 08:13 PM

I'm not as optimistic, but I know two things about it...

It's got a three foot wingspan.



It tastes like chicken.


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 10:29 PM

Willie-O, that woodpecker attacking the hydro pole -- do you suppose it was suicidal?


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: KathWestra
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 10:36 PM

It is very, very seldom that a news story makes me as utterly delighted as this one did. It was especially wonderful to hear during a week when the fate of the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge is so much, and so dismally, in the news.

As you will see when you check out the reports, there is much more to this story than the video. There is LOTS of information on the ivory-billed woodpecker discovery on The Nature Conservancy's website that is well worth reading. Go to The Nature Conservancy to see many links that relate the whole odyssey of the research teams' efforts to locate this bird. Yeah!


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 11:04 PM

Very good news!

And the woodpecker pecking on the treated pole is nothing. I've heard them pecking on electrical transformers. Noisy!


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 11:56 PM

The footage has been studied and the bird conclusively identified. Now they are trying to find out if there is more than one. The last one was seen in the 30s. Wonder how long they live.

AllanC had a pilliated woodpecker that came to his birdfeeder regularly. I was astonished the first time I saw it. Big. Very big.


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Charley Noble
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 09:24 AM

There may even be hope for folk music!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 09:48 AM

Bad Rap! Bad, bad, bad!!!

That video ain't no ivory headed woodpecker, pal...

But, seriously, if this species is still around, given Bush's caving into the loggin' industry, it won't be for long. So enjoy it while you can...

BTW, we have lost our pair of red-headeds (no, not piliateds) from the amount of new homes being built in this Wes Ginny holler... Hey, a bird has gotta eat and nest and if you take that away they'll either go some where else or die.... 'er both...

But still good news...

.... and still, bad Rap... Library business must be kinda slow these days...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 10:23 AM

NPR has been playing some interesting discussion of this announcement. The last bird was seen in about 1945, but there are recordings and photos and enough information about this charsimatic bird that they weren't difficult to identify once they were seen.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 10:34 AM

Let's see, Bobert...

All day I have a regional meeting of the state library association, but at 9 a.m. I have to go see the Mayor. Yesterday I dealt with some matters for the local library consortium (finances), among other things; the day before the roof was fixed JUST BEFORE we got a gullywasher rain; I'm trying to get stuff to the city auction without giving away stuff we can still use, I've dealt with two irate patrons, the State Library, the Pacific Northwest Library Association, I have three articles to write, my wife's in DC until Monday, a friend is coming from East next weekend and I have to cut the lawn, I'm planning a State-wide library association meeting for the fall so I've been dealing with a car rental company and an airline and the local CVB and the speakers (coming from Seattle and El Paso), and yeah, the library biz is slow right now.

I think it's cool that the Lord God Bird seems to have returned!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: GUEST,Dale
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 11:11 AM

from the Arkansas Democrat Gazette: http://www.nwanews.com/story.php?paper=adg§ion=News&storyid=114980

Articles from the ADG do NOT stay on line very long, sometimes only one day. My guess is that this one may be around a bit longer than that.

Two quotes for those who are concerned about the rush to see the bird. (only one has been verified so far)

Right now, roughly 320,000 acres of Arkansas� eastern bottomland forests are protected as state and federal parkland or in conservation easements on private property. The mucky forests of bald cypress, tupelo and oak are part of a stretch of Arkansas and Mississippi Delta land dubbed the Big Woods by Southern writer William Faulkner. "This place is the Amazon of North America," said Scott Simon, director of The Nature Conservancy of Arkansas and a leader in the ivory-bill search.

***************

A 5,000-acre area in the Cache River National Wildlife Refuge where the bird has been spotted over the past year will be off-limits to the public while researchers and land managers craft a policy that will give people a chance to spy an ivory-bill without endangering the bird�s habitat. The remaining 55,000 acres of the national wildlife refuge will be open, as will the adjacent Dagmar Wildlife Management Area.


Of course, that will not necessarily keep out trespassers who really want to be there. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

Things are looking up in some ways. I saw a bluebird in my yard here in North Central Arkansas for the first time a couple of weeks ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: clueless don
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 02:11 PM

The thing is, it shouldn't be hard to tell an Ivory Bill from a Pilly if you get a good look at it. So if all of these ornithologists from the Cornell Lab say it is an Ivory Bill, I am inclined to believe them. My whole family is thrilled by this news!

Maybe it was a Pilly with albinism of the bill and of the back (lower) half of the wing feathers - yeah, that's the ticket!

Fly on, Lord God bird!

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 02:36 PM

but there is evidenlty an acoustic differnece in the rapping of the two species as well - and that agrees that this is an Ivory bill.


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: John Hardly
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 02:49 PM

not to mention a size difference.

Woody Woodpecker was definitely a pileated.

I wonder what turned his bill from ivory to black? ...Perhaps it was the pill he ate.


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: John Hardly
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 02:52 PM

I just looked at a picture. Woody was ivory-billed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: GUEST,observer
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 04:11 PM

I am astonished!!!

Haven't you folks been reading the Mehlberg threads above???

For the sake of nutty et al, it should be

Ivory-Billed Wood******!

You'll offend someone here...


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: GUEST,harp
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 04:54 PM

Listen to the Ivory bill here:listen here


I thought I saw one in my yard several years ago. I see pileated woodpeckers a lot. This was much different. But how could I have seen it and no one else in the area? Oh, well


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: mandoleer
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 04:56 PM

Better make sure they're protected, or hunters will be after them. Can't get the ivory in Africa, now.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 05:00 PM

Today's St. Paul Pioneer Press did a huge spread on the freakin' front page complete with illustrations! Trouble is, they aren't giving prominent enough mention to the fact that an ivory-billed woodpecker is very similar to a pileated woodpecker. Soon you're going to have more bogus "sightings" of them than UFO sightings in Roswell.


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: GUEST,Arkie
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 05:28 PM

It is nice to see so many people excited about something in Arkansas.


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: ranger1
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 08:19 PM

To use my usual phrase when I spot a bird I've never seen before: "oh, COOL!"

I'm lucky enough to see pileated woodpeckers on a fairly regular basis, but it never gets old. To see an ivory-billed woodpecker...WOW! I can dream.


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 10:29 PM

the best thing for bird-lovers to do is to stay away. Let the birds nest in peace and raise their young without interference. Right? Right!

Twitchers, take note.


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: mandoleer
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 12:43 PM

Latest from New Scientist is that it's now believed to be a Pileated not an IB - based on careful analysis of the video. Time to go back in, cameras at the ready...


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Arkie
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 11:36 PM

There must be an Ivory-Billed Woodpecker.   I've seen a section from a tree with a big cavity formed by this special bird's search for food. Or maybe it was trying to attract a female. Anyway it left a four inch deep hole in the tree.


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Subject: RE: BS: Good News! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 12:55 PM

Perhaps that guy who wants an army surplus kilt has got one and wants to show it off to good advantage.


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