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Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: GUEST Date: 16 Jun 18 - 02:30 PM The version that I learned at a Jewish summer camp in the late '40's: "On, you sons of Moses, with your big long noses, fight, fight, fight for Yisrael. On you sun browned lasses, with your big round asses. Fight, fight, fight, fight for Yisrael." The tune was the Marseilles, which was adapted for the Vagabond King. Other lyrics: "Join the Russian navy, fight for meat and gravy, fight fight fight for Joe Stalin. Join the Yiddish Navy fight for bread and gravy. fight fight fight for Yisrael." Also the cheer: "Guns for the Arabs; sneakers for the Jews." |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: GUEST,rediflex Date: 09 Jul 18 - 01:08 PM Eaters of pork and gravy |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: GUEST,Guest Date: 24 Nov 18 - 02:59 PM The only lyrics that I remember from a Baptist church camp in North Carolina, circa 1963 were: Eat your beans and gravy Join the Jewish navy Fight, fight, fight for Israel. And Save your dimes and nickels. Buy our kosher pickles. Fight.. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: GUEST Date: 08 Jan 19 - 07:54 AM The version I heard as a Protestant, in a mostly Catholic neighborhood in Chicago, as a Boy Scout, in the mid-60's included the lines, "All who eat pastrami, join the Hebrew Army, fight, fight, fight for Palestine." We sang it, with some of the other verses as we hiked. Just like "A hundred bottles of beer on the wall." Learned from one of the troop leaders and never gave it much thought abot it. .Now I feel it is kind of Anti-Palastinian |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: GUEST Date: 11 Feb 19 - 03:53 PM anti-Semitic? A FIGHT SONG TO SUPPORT, MONEY FOR GUNS TO FIGHT THE BRITISH. EVERYONE WANTS TO FORGET THE BOMBINGS AGAINST THE BRITISH RULE TO KEEP PALESTINE. THE CAUSE WAS TO GET A ZIONIST STATE FROM THE CONTROLLING BRITISH.ZIONIST TERRORISTS! CHECK OUT ALL THE HISTORY BOOK NOT JUST ON SIDE OF OR THE OTHER. THEN MAYBE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND BOTH. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: Jack Campin Date: 11 Feb 19 - 04:38 PM Incidentally "Sons of toil and danger" is rather similar to a very old klezmer tune, "Broyges tants". |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: GUEST,D Web Date: 13 Feb 19 - 10:56 PM I first heard this song in elementary school in about 1963, in Los Angeles. I'm Jewish, and all but one of my classmates was not. One of the non-Jewish boys, named Craig, sang the lyrics thus: All you sons of Davey, Join the Jewish Navy, Fight fight fight for Palestine! Drop your f*****g Torah, Don't just dance the hora, Fight fight fight for Palestine! Onward, onward, onward we will go, Eating lox and bagels as we go. Men of circumcision, Make the right decision, Fight fight fight for Palestine! I was impressed that (a) Craig knew what Torah was and (b) ditto hora. It turned out that Craig's father was Jewish, although scarcely ever mentioned it, let alone practiced Judaism. I am guessing his old man taught him the song. The use of "go" twice in the break is kind of clunky. But I must say that the second verse, however irreverent (and yes, little 9-year-old Craig really dropped the F-bomb, although neither of knew what the word meant), actually contains some insight--i.e., don't hide yourself in your books, don't dance as though there's no urgency ... the time has come to take concerted action! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: Donuel Date: 14 Feb 19 - 03:28 PM Oy vay Mama nuish shtay Inita vilet Henta Brenta fiire |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: GUEST Date: 21 Sep 20 - 02:19 PM The only lines I remember, and this is how I remember them, came from a non-Jewish counselor at a "non-Jewish" summer camp founded by a Jewish man and populated entirely by non-observant Jewish girls in the North Woods of Wisconsin in the very early 1970s. I have been searching for background on this ditty for years. Thank you for this thread. Onward, Onward, Onward to the foe Eating lox and bagels as we go No more dirty dishes Just gefilte fishes Fight, fight, fight for kosher ham (boom boom, boom boom) |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: GUEST,Label Date: 26 Sep 20 - 11:32 AM Men of toil and trouble Helping peel k-nubble... |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: GUEST,Guest Date: 29 Sep 20 - 10:16 AM We sang this song in Vietnam 1966: We are the sons of Moses And we have big noses Fight, Fight Fight for Palestine We get no ham and gravy In the Jewish Navy Fight Fight Fight for Palestine Isaac, Jacob, Benjamin and Sam We are the boys who eat no ham Grab that Gentile hold him tight On to the Synacog Fight Fight Fight J E W S Jews Jews Jews |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: GUEST,Brad Date: 08 Jan 21 - 04:53 PM I remember my dad singing this in the 60s/70s: All you sons of Moses With your broken noses Fight, Fight, Fight for Israel! This was in Portland, OR. He was born in Tacoma in 1929 to Swedish immigrant parents. I don't know where he learned it but it might have been in the Marines in the 40s where he picked up a lot of transgressive folklore that trickled out from time to time. All of our neighbors were Jewish and I went to a lot of Bar Mitzvahs and Shabbat dinners growing up and I never heard any Jewish person sing it. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: GUEST Date: 20 Sep 21 - 07:58 PM Yikes, Tom New Brunswick NJ, around 1946 Probably I learned it at Roosevelt Jr High School, I don't remember anyone singing it. Some fragments Boys who are in their teens Join the Yiddish Marines Fight, fight, fight for Palesteen (so pronounced) Men who don't eat pork and gravy Join the Yiddish Navy Fight, fight, fight for Palesteen I don't remember the Army verse, so I was happy to hear some versions Only us Jewish kids knew the song. Not antisemitic but jokily irreverent. We young teens knew zilch about Palestine, about the fighting or the massive immigration from Europe. That, despite that I was a refugee from fascist Hungary. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: GUEST,Donald Date: 20 Oct 23 - 03:51 PM I grew up in San Antonio in the 1940's and 50's. Apparently, many Jewish families had children about the same time as my parents because I had many Jewish friends all through public school. They taught me, "Oh you sons of Moses, with your swingin' noses fight, fight. fight for Palestine. Eat your beans and gravy, join the Yiddish navy, fight. fight for Palestine." and on, and on. Apparently, as someone else has mentioned, in those days "Palestine" was synonymous with "Israel". |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: GUEST,Donald Date: 20 Oct 23 - 03:51 PM I grew up in San Antonio in the 1940's and 50's. Apparently, many Jewish families had children about the same time as my parents because I had many Jewish friends all through public school. They taught me, "Oh you sons of Moses, with your swingin' noses fight, fight. fight for Palestine. Eat your beans and gravy, join the Yiddish navy, fight. fight for Palestine." and on, and on. Apparently, as someone else has mentioned, in those days "Palestine" was synonymous with "Israel". |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'You, You Sons of Moses' Anti-Semitic From: GUEST,Jimmy W Date: 02 Dec 23 - 12:01 PM 1955 New Britain, Connecticut A common ditty, not associated in any way with anti-Semitism. How I remember it: If you want your bread and gravy, Fight, fight, fight, for the Jewish Navy, Fight, fight, fight, for Palestine. |
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