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Roscommon Singers CD (1998)

Frank McGrath 16 Dec 98 - 05:26 PM
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Subject: South Roscommon - Congrats.
From: Frank McGrath
Date: 16 Dec 98 - 05:26 PM

Martin Ryan is a very regular contributor to the Mudcat threads but he is too modest to blow his own trumpet.

Martin and his friends in the South Roscommon Singers Circle have launched a new and excellent cd called "What will we do?".

It features many of their members and is a must for anyone interested in traditional unaccompanied singing.

Possibly Martin might leave his humility for a little while and tell us more about it - like how to get hold of a copy.

Congratulations to the South Roscommon Singers Circle.
Well done and every success to you.

Frank McGrath
Nenagh Singers Circle


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Martin Ryan.
Date: 16 Dec 98 - 08:12 PM

Frank! You chancer! It's not often I'm accused of humility.

The CD is indeed launched - with the help of Jimmy Murray, in whose pub the circle started a few years ago. Jimmy won an All-Ireland with Roscommon in 1943 and 1944 (the Irish among you will know how cosmic an event that was). He is also a fine singer - still, at the age of 81. As I said to him: "if I can keep my teeth in at your age , never mind sing - I'll be happy!"

I'll look into the cost of postage but I'm unlikely to refuse $20 or therabouts in reasonably negotiable form (Saorry guys - CD's are expensive on this side of the water. SOmething to do with the damp). We'll probably end up marketing it via John Moulden's Ulstersongs also. For that matter - Max - are you interested in holding a few?

Regards


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Brack&
Date: 16 Dec 98 - 08:17 PM

What songs are on it, Martin?


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Martin Ryan.
Date: 16 Dec 98 - 08:17 PM

p.s.
I can be contactred through Mudat or directly at

martinpryan@tinet.ie

Regards


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Martin Ryan.
Date: 16 Dec 98 - 08:24 PM

Brack&

I'll post a list when I get a chance to type 'em up off line. Twenty tracks with a fair proportion of local songs, from singers ranging from teenagers to advanced seniors!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Frank McGrath
Date: 16 Dec 98 - 08:41 PM

Martin, Are there no advanced teenagers in Roscommon? Only advanced seniors!
And in which category would you place yourself? Wouldn't you be a very advanced teenager now?

Anyway - get on your bike and post the track listing quick so I can find a few new songs to murder. The few I have are well and truely hacked to bits.

Oiche Maith

Frank McGrath
Nenagh Singers Cir


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Big Mick
Date: 16 Dec 98 - 11:58 PM

Can't wait to order this one. Let us know how Martin. Frank, you are stirring, and I love it. Thanks for letting us know about this.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Martin Ryan.
Date: 17 Dec 98 - 04:33 AM

Hope this works!

Roscommon Singers Circle CD

Roscommon Singers Circle CD

"What will we do?"

List of titles

  1. Pleasant and delightful
  2. The Boatman of Lough Key
  3. After Aughrim's great disaster
  4. Ballyneety's Walls
  5. The Grey Lake of Loughrea
  6. Fanba
  7. The Banks of the Moy
  8. Roscommon of my dreams
  9. Carrig Rua
  10. Ten Young Women and one young man
  11. Stome
  12. The greyhound
  13. Saidhbh ní Mhuinghile
  14. Roy Roger Um
  15. The Lakes of Coolfin
  16. The Groves of Kilteevan
  17. The Rose of Castlerea
  18. Horses and plough
  19. The maid of Sweet Gurteen
  20. What will we do?

 

Regards


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Gearoid
Date: 17 Dec 98 - 04:53 AM

Martin Congratulations on the CD and the South Roscommon singers circle I have some Roscommon blood in me so there could be a good chance I'll be in Roscommon for the new year, So if you're near Rockfords and hear a young drunk Dub singing Kevin Barry that'll be me. Or if you're near Goldens in Castlecoote / Fuerty and you hear someone crucifying the rare aul times (God loves a trier) that'll be me.

Gearoid


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: George Henderson
Date: 17 Dec 98 - 05:37 AM

Just a short addition to Frank’s comments.

Mike Scanlan and I were in Knockroghery for the launching of this fine CD.

The singing talent was unbelievable. I tried to count the singers at one stage but lost count after 35 and there was still a lot to go.

Frank Harte was also there and in fine voice.

The CD is magnificent and, apart from their two guest tracks from "Baby Sham", it is typical of a night at one of their sessions.

It is nearly as good as ours (Nenagh Singers Circle) which is also available via Frank or myself at the same price of $20.00, and which was launched about 18 months ago. John Moulden is also carrying our CD as is Living Tradition.

Georgehenderson@tinet.ie


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Martin Ryan.
Date: 17 Dec 98 - 06:48 AM

George

Thank you for the kind words.

Mind you, I'm not sure how Frank will take being an "also" to singers and talent!

Gearoid

Drop me a line and a tenner if you'd like a copy.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 17 Dec 98 - 10:26 AM

Hi Martin!

Is that "What will we do when we have no money?"

And what's the low-down on "Ten Young Women and 1 Young Man?" Sounds like my idea of a "perfect summer camp" as seen on another current thread.

See you in Ballyliffin. Maybe I can bring something to barter.

All the best,
Dan


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Gearoid
Date: 17 Dec 98 - 10:32 AM

Frank, Martin

What's the style involved (is it sean nos or is it just get up and sing for Ireland ??)

Gearoid

P.S Frank I saw the website (very good) the question is can Roscommon equal that !!!


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Martin Ryan.
Date: 17 Dec 98 - 10:48 AM

Dan

Yes to the first question!

"10 young women and one young man" is, I'm afraid, no adolescent fantasy. It's a song Ewan McColl wrote at the time of a strike in the early eighties involving workers in a supermarket which was selling South African goods. I've always called it "The Girls of Dublin City", just to confuse the issue, but Peggy Seeger tells me "10 young women..." was the original title. It had never been recorded, as far as she knew. Given the nature of coincidence, I was not too surprised when, less than a fortnight before our launch, it appeared on a CD of Irish Labour Songs released by one our trade unions! I thought I had sent it ot Dick for the DT - but apparently not.

Gearoid
More sean-nos (in English) than Dublin City Ramblers, certainly!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Gearoid
Date: 17 Dec 98 - 10:59 AM

I think I be a mixture of the Dubliners, The Wolfe Tones and The Dublin City Ramblers.

I think I'll have to start my own Band (I'd call it the Clancy's or Plankty or something original like that !!!!!)

Just to mention something total different

Have you noticed that young people are once again taking an interest in Ballads and trad ????

I'm only a gosoon myself and most of my friends enjoy a good session.?? Same goes for my younger brothers friends ?????

funny eh ???????


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Alice
Date: 17 Dec 98 - 11:12 AM

Thank you so much for posting this information! Please give details for those of us outside of Ireland regarding the type of payment, currency, mailing address to send payment... do you have a way to take VISA or MasterCard charges as payment? Thanks!! And Frank, I am in the process of setting up a song circle here, with a fiddler and Celtic music promoter by the name of Tom Robison. He has started a company to promote Cletic music in our region, called Fiddlehill Music, and has released his first CD called "Many Hats". He does not yet have a computer to access the internet, but I am encouraging him to join in on the Mudcat. I will be singing at a Christamas singalong and session with him this weekend, and I hope to begin organizing a singers circle based on whatever interest is expressed at this singalong on the 19th. Frank and Martin, I would like to buy a CD of each of your recordings of your singers.

alice in montana


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 17 Dec 98 - 11:35 AM

Hi Martin!

Not wanting to steal any heat from the Roscommon Singers' fire, I thought I'd lay these verses on you...

What would we do if we married a farmer?
All true lovers, what would we do then?
We would milk his best cow and laugh while he ploughs
And we'll yodel it all over again.

What would we do if we married a fiddler?
All true...
We would dance to his jigs and play up to his rigs
And we'll...

Check out http://www.folklegacy.com/cd/cd124.htm. It sings.

Fraternally yours, Dan


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: George Henderson
Date: 17 Dec 98 - 11:36 AM

Alice

We have no way of accepting credit cards

Mail to :

George Henderson, 6, Knights Crescent, Tyone Nenagh, Co. Tipperary. Ireland.

Or send it to Frank His address is on the website.

George


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Martin Ryan.
Date: 17 Dec 98 - 11:48 AM

Alice.

I'm in the process of moving house at the moment, so try:

Martin Ryan, School of Science, Institute of Technology, ATHLONE, Westmeath, Ireland

Again, no way of taking credit cards etc. Chance cash!

Regards

p.s. Dan: Can't get through to that site at the moment.
p.p.s. As you can see, I'm working hard as the holidays approach!


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 17 Dec 98 - 12:28 PM

Dan

I got through eventually. Sounds great - I look forward to hearing it all.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Frank McGrath
Date: 17 Dec 98 - 06:25 PM

Alice,
It's lovely to hear from you. May I wish you every success with your singers circle/club. I hope it brings you as much joy as I have been lucky enough to experience since I hooked up with the Nenagh Circle.

Thank you for expressing a desire to aquire the recording of our repitoire. Even though George and I feature on same it's really quite good. But I am being far too flippant and negating the sincerity of my opening lines. So, let me repeat the line I wrote a week or so ago.

To Alice and Big Mick (J. Offer, Art, Brack and all the others)
Thank you for still being here and active in the threads when I returned to the Mudcat after many long months.

Frank McGrath
Nenagh Singers


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Alice
Date: 17 Dec 98 - 08:30 PM

Frank... I left a message for you on your guestbook. It is great to have this vehicle to communicate about music and the opportunity to keep the songs of common folk alive.
All the best, Alice.


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: MG
Date: 18 Dec 98 - 06:17 PM

Hey, Alice, Less of the COMMON !!!! MG


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Jack Hickman
Date: 19 Dec 98 - 10:50 AM

Attention Martin Ryan:

I see by your post that yhour address is in Athlone, which is the birthplace of my father. I hope to be visiting Ireland, and specifically Athlone, in May, and would love to take in one of your sessions. Could you send me the location.

You might like to send it directly by e-mail to:

jhickman@fox.nstn.ca

Thanks.

Jack Hickman


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 20 Dec 98 - 05:08 PM

Jack:

Good to hear from you. Drop me an email at mryan@ait.ie nearer the date and I'll let you know what's on.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Martin Ryan.
Date: 11 Jan 99 - 12:30 PM

John Moulden ("Ulstersongs") will be taking on the Roscommon CD over the next few weeks. He's set up to handle credit cards etc. and can be contacted via the Mudcat links page.

I had a Christmas card from Peggy Seeger to whom I had sent a copy, since it includes one of Ewan McColls previously unredorded songs (see earlier in this thread!). Fortunately, she enjoyed my attempt at it!

Regards

p.s. I'll confirm when John has stock available.


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Martin _Ryan
Date: 10 Feb 99 - 02:43 PM

John Moulden's Ulstersongs ( http://members.aol.com/jmoul81075/ulstsong.htm) has a few copies of the CD and can deal with credit card orders. Tell him I sent you!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From:
Date: 18 Feb 99 - 03:54 AM

refresh!


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: John Moulden
Date: 18 Feb 99 - 02:20 PM

The catalogues you will find at the link which Martin Ryan quotes above are in need of revision and "What will we do" is not listed - but - I do have a couple and can always get more and I do accept credit cards - terms are given at http://members.aol.com/jmoul81075/form.htm

The Mudcat Cafe and I are in course of negotating terms for them to link any item in my catalogue to any reference to it - song or book or album - in a thread.

This episode can serve as a dry run.

I'd like to add my congratulations to the others - there is some fine singing on the cd and very good songs - besides a degree of erudition in the liner notes (Martin Ryan again).

John Moulden


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Subject: RE: Dunne's strikers
From: Philippa
Date: 18 Feb 99 - 05:44 PM

Gearoid, The song you referred to Girls of Dublin City is now in the DT database under that title.


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Gearoid
Date: 19 Feb 99 - 12:06 PM

Phillipa

I think it was Martin that mentioned that particular song

thanks G


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Dan Breen
Date: 20 Feb 99 - 12:39 PM

But what will we do if we have no money????
All true lovers
How can we buy then...
........
.......
Well have to yodell it over again.....


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Wolfgang
Date: 10 Mar 99 - 12:37 PM

I got my copy of that CD recently. I like a lot that style of singing. Mostly a single unaccompanied voice and a very good collection of songs. How you get together such a collection of good voices in a small area is a secret of Ireland. If that's really "typical of a night at one of their sessions" I can only envy you.
Go on and buy that CD unless you hate listening to a capella singing for more than one track.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Martin _Ryan
Date: 11 Mar 99 - 09:06 AM

Wolfgang

Thank you for the kind words! As to whether its typical of our sessions... Well, you mightn't find all of the singers there on any one night - but there'd always be someone else there just as good!
The real reason the circle works is the work put in by one man (Declan Coyne, who also produced the CD) in organising and encouraging everyone - with some help form myself and others.

Declan, by the way, is currently doing a computer course for the first time in his life ..... so I might be able to lure him on line soon!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Wolfgang
Date: 09 Jun 99 - 02:31 PM

my transcription of the lyrics to Roy Roger Um on this CD are in this thread

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Wolfgang
Date: 11 Jun 99 - 05:46 AM

I've added two more songs from this CD, corrections are invited: Boatman of Lough Key and Carrig Rua

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Wolfgang
Date: 18 Jun 99 - 05:34 AM

another imperfect transcription ca be found if you go to Ballyneety's walls

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Wolfgang
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 03:06 PM

Banks of the Moy is now here too.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Ferret
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 09:57 PM

I don't know if it's of any interest to any of the cater's in Roscommon, but I have a gig at Lough Key Forest Park out side Boyle on 13th, 14th, 15th, August.

Curleus 400 Festival

Friday 13th???

Boyle 16th Century Market Day

Monster Ceili & Set Dancing

Saturday 14th.

'Son et Lumiere' at Boyle Abbey

And a small battle Re-enactment.

Sunday 15th.

The full Re-enactment of the battle of the Curleus.

And on al three days there are craft traders will be trading.

It shod be a good weekend I'll be there running the Northland Mercenaries Re-enactment group, with The Cu-Glas Irish Re-enactment group. If any caters get that way give me a call there are several other caters that will be there and we'd be glad to meet you.

All the best

Ferret


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: Wolfgang
Date: 24 Sep 99 - 08:00 AM

I have transcribed some more of the songs on this CD:
Rose of Castlerea
Groves of Kilteevan
Horses and Plough
Roscommon of my dreams
Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Roscommon
From: MartinRyan
Date: 07 Jan 09 - 07:02 PM

A mere decade later, I am pleased to announce that details of this fine CD are now available on line, with a few sample tracks, including your humble servant.
Click Here

Mind you, I'm shocked that there are still copies available!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Roscommon Singers CD (1998)
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 08 Jan 09 - 06:01 PM

I was given a copy by the late Phil Hughes, when he came back from Roscommon to visit the Herga folk club. Hard to believe it was 10 years ago.

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Roscommon Singers CD (1998)
From: sleepyjon
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 08:26 AM

Hard to believe! - I dropped on this thread while searching for something completely different (as you do!) - I was in Roscommon at about that time (late 90s), stayed in Athlone and went up to Knockroghery - looked for my father's family home at Gailey Bay (our current Irish terrier is called Gailey) and had a drink in Jimmy Murray's bar where the man himself was still there (looking freakily like my Dad who was born in 1907). We were looking for somewhere to find some music, but no-one mentioned the Roscommon Singers either in Athlone or Knockroghery - pity about that!

SJ

(aka John Garrick)


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