BS: The way it should be......

Subject: RE: BS: The way it should be......
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 May 05 - 07:49 PM

The 'liberals' that Keith Thompson is slagging are not the liberals I know.

I agree with this early belief of his: "All my commitments centered on belief in equal opportunity, due process, respect for the dignity of the individual and solidarity with people in trouble." (Incidentally, I wonder how many 'conservatives' would agree with that statement? An approach that exemplifies what I consider the essence of civilization.)

I think a great many of his other opinions are sweeping, shallow and superficial. I don't know who he hangs out with.

When he talks about how 'liberals' feel about the carnage in Afghanistan and links the war to 9/11, he ignores the fact that Osama is/was a Saudi, and that the Afghanistan populace is suffering the consequences of his presence in the country. As sexist, fundamentalist and cruel as they were/are, even the Taliban did not necessarily have anything to do with 9/11.

As for SH thinking that liberals have grown up that way, I would guess the reverse is far more likely to be true. My own family is/was conservative- and so was I. The first president I voted for was Nixon. (the time that he didn't make it. So there.) Even Kendall was Republican at one time; so were many others. As we got older we started seeing the inconsistencies, and probably gradually, in most cases, started realizing that our beliefs were bearing the wrong label.

Susu's Hubby, what are/were the politics of your birth family?

Subject: RE: BS: The way it should be......
From: Bill D
Date: 24 May 05 - 06:56 PM

"... I came to realize that most liberals are the way they are because of the fact that they are following what they have seen their parents do or because of peer pressure or even just the fact that they, while in the liberal frame of mind, are incapable of independent and responsible thoughts..."

umm-hmm....and most conservatives get the way THEY are by careful, considered, reasonable, analytical processes? Right...and I'm sure Rush Limbaugh would agree.

(I'm still reading the article, to better respond to the thrust of the post..)

Subject: RE: BS: The way it should be......
From: CarolC
Date: 24 May 05 - 06:53 PM

Although I do find it ironically amusing that in the opening post to this thread, people are being encouraged to exercise independent thought by following the example of someone else.

Subject: RE: BS: The way it should be......
From: PoppaGator
Date: 24 May 05 - 06:46 PM

Amen, CarolC.

I agree with a whole lot of what's being said in that article, believe it or not, even though I haven't often found myself in agreement with the Neocon doctrine I've seen Hubby post.

There are many characteristics of the doctrinaire academic left that have always turned me off. All in all, however, my views fall into the left-of-center category. That said, I observe even more hardheaded dogmatism and unthinking meanspirited vitriol coming from the right than from the bigmouthed but ultimately ineffectual voices of the blowhard ivory-tower "politically correct" left.

Subject: RE: BS: The way it should be......
From: CarolC
Date: 24 May 05 - 06:16 PM

Liberal and Conservative are not the only two choices. Thank goodness.

Subject: BS: The way it should be......
From: Susu's Hubby
Date: 24 May 05 - 05:48 PM

While reading the following article, I came to realize that most liberals are the way they are because of the fact that they are following what they have seen their parents do or because of peer pressure or even just the fact that they, while in the liberal frame of mind, are incapable of independent and responsible thoughts. It may take something, such as one of their own, to step forward and show them that it's ok to say that you're wrong and to step to the right is actually a good thing.

So...without hesitation....read away!


A real eye opener


Hubby