BS: mobile phones

Subject: BS: mobile phones
From: Tam the man
Date: 29 May 05 - 07:22 PM

however there are some things that I don't like and that bastard mobile phones, and the people that use them. for exapmle when you go out to a place for your lunch/dinner/bus/trian or whatever or go to a concert, there is always some dickhead who has not switched off their moblie phone, and when it rings instead of going out of the room so no one can hear you talking/shouting, they just sit there shouting to the person on the the other phone, why do they need to shout I mean is the other person deaf.

I have a mobile phone myself, however I only use it when I'm telling my dad when I am coming home from a club which I visit every 2 weeks.
.
Tom

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Once Famous
Date: 29 May 05 - 07:29 PM

Tom, what's your cell phone number?

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 May 05 - 08:06 PM

I have one, but refuse to use it....never even turn it on. Take it on road trips for OUT going calls only. Hate the damn things. Drive now, talk later!

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: JennyO
Date: 29 May 05 - 10:55 PM

I've known a couple of people who hardly ever have their phones on, or, like one I know, forget them altogether and leave them at home. It can be crazymaking for people who want to reach them at times. The first one didn't have voicemail either. I can't help thinking - what's the point of having the **#&*@#* thing anyway? Trouble was, they didn't CHOOSE to leave them off or at home. They just FORGOT. Duh! Then there's the ones that are always forgetting to charge them up, or run out of credit, or lose them, like my daughter. Grrrr!

When I first got a mobile phone, it was for two main reasons - so that in the event of a breakdown or an emergency, I would be able to ring road service or whatever, and also so that people could reach me when I am out. So I try to always have it with me and on when I go out - except when I am in a session or at a concert where it would disturb others. The kind of person Tam described IS very rude and annoying. I've seen people do that too. So it's really just a matter of using them responsibly.

On the other hand, I've noticed a trend now for people to use mobiles exclusively, or to only supply a mobile number on an advertisement. It can get to be an expensive exercise if you have to ring a lot of mobile numbers, as they are timed whereas local calls are not.

What is also annoying to me is people who are so used to ringing mobiles and apparently have more money than sense, who ring my mobile when I am at home, where I usually have it turned off, and leave a message, which I don't get till the next time I turn it on to go out. These people had my home number. It just didn't occur to them to ring it. Now that's really dumb!

Jenny

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 30 May 05 - 12:25 AM

Certainly a lot of mobile discourtesay around these days. Some folk cannot get it into their heads that they are disturbing others and being rankly ignorant when they have the things trilling during a performance of any kind.

Nearly had a guy off his motor bike when I was driving home the other evening, he was talking and riding as well as trying to manage a set of traffic lights.

yes I have a mobile, it is convenient and I need it for work but any other time it is off or silent.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 30 May 05 - 01:58 AM

The mobile phone business brings out all my "getting old" symptons.

I have this whizzy phone which takes pictures and everything, but I just use the bloody thing as a phone.

I haven't learned to text, answer voice mail, take pictures, hold conferences on the phone.

Its what Alan Bennet calls the "kestrel under the counter" syndrome.

all the best

Big Al Whittle

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 May 05 - 04:31 AM

Well my partner has one on the 'Use in an emergency' basis, which we discovered last month was dead, I rang the number and they claimed it didn't exist. When I got to the bottom of it eventually it transpired that because no calls had been made or received in the previous 6 months they took the number back, complete with the £10 credit which I had put on it. Apparently they are free to do this without notification or justification, I call it daylight robbery. I don't use mine much now I've given up regular work, but I wouldn't be without it I'm afraid.
Giok.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: GUEST,harvey andrews
Date: 30 May 05 - 05:09 AM

THE POCKET SONG


Oh, my mother's in my pocket and she'll never go away
She tells me that I have to keep my mobile on each day
And where you going, what you doing's all she'll ever say
Oh my mother's in my pocket and she'll never go away


Now my wife is in my pocket and she'll never go away
She tells me that I have to keep my mobile on each day
And where you going, who you seeing's all she'll ever say
Oh my wife is in my pocket and she'll never go away


    See us on the street, the train,
    See our faces etched with strain
    Not a minute of our own,
    Lives lived on a mobile phone

Now my boss is in my pocket and he'll never go away
He tells me that I have to keep my mobile on each day
Where you going, how's the selling's all he'll ever say
Oh my boss is in my pocket and he'll never go away

Soon I'll empty all my pockets
And I'll throw them all away
These gadgets and these gizmos
That have taken all my day
And where I'm going, what I'm doing, only I will say
When I empty all my pockets and I throw them all away
Someday....someday....one day

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Morticia
Date: 30 May 05 - 06:16 AM

Good one, Harvey........but the once or twice I've needed to call the RAC, I have blessed those little plastic monsters.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: GUEST
Date: 30 May 05 - 06:28 AM

Agreed, but that's all they're fit for. It's madness when you pass a woman in the supermarket aisle having a deep discussion on her mobile as to which type of yoghurt to buy!

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 30 May 05 - 06:36 AM

I have one too, and use it quite a lot, but I like to think that I use it responsibly.

Nevertheless, it's scary how quickly we embrace the latest technologies and adapt our lives accordingly, so that after a while we cannot do without them. Cars became commonplace, so we all live further away from work now - many of us could not go to work without the car, and public transport does not give the coverage it used to.

We used to talk to people or read the newspapers for news. Then the news was on the telly. When it went on the blink we found it hard to keep up to date. Now it's on the internet - I hardly watch TV news any longer, and if I had to, I probably couldn't be bothered - it takes too long by comparison.

But worst of all - back to mobile phones - is the stats published a few months ago, that something like 60% of the people interviewed didn't know where they'd be if one took away their mobile. Silly, yes. But scary most of all.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: GUEST
Date: 30 May 05 - 06:39 AM

You all need to move forward into this century. They are here and will not go away. Its like the computer you are using now, people said they would never last......

There will soon be a basic phone out for people who dont want or cant use all the extras.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: wildlone
Date: 30 May 05 - 07:04 AM

I got my mobile for when I was out on my bike.
I have used it to call the workshop when my exhaust gasket blew and the RAC when I broke down.
I have used it to tell people when I might be late meeting them.

Shanghaiceltic, It wasnt me one the bike the other day.
dave

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: jacqui.c
Date: 30 May 05 - 08:22 AM

I find mine quite useful they are perfect for emergencies and yes, I have used mine while shopping to phone the sick friend I was running errands for to check exactly what was wanted. I've also contacted my daughter on a couple of occasions when I've found something in a shop that might be suitable for my grandson.

The best time was when I managed to utter the immortal words "I'm on the train"! to let my son know when to pick me up from the station. I don't think you can be a real mobile phone user 'till you've done that one.

I agree that there are places where their use is inappropriate and, having sat opposite the woman with her phone attached to her ear for the whole of a four hour train jourbey (I'm not sure how the charge kept going so long - it was amazing) there are times when I would like to see their use discouraged, but overall I wouldn't be without mine now.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 May 05 - 09:05 AM

I call mine my 'Electronic Dog Lead' do you have a name for yours?
G..

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 30 May 05 - 11:30 AM

I don't think I could be without mine now... but I do use it mainly for text messaging, rather than actual phone calls, to the extent that I have 300+ free minutes to use every month.

And here's a phone shanty for you from me.....

Well I thought I heard a mobile phone
And you think so, and you know so
Well it rang in the middle of me journey home
A long time it rang

Well I thought I heard the owner say
And you think so, and you know so
I'm on the train love, I'm on my way
A long time it rang

Well I said 'To me that phone you'll pass
And you think so, and you know so
And I stuffed it where the sun don't shine
A long time it rang!

Well if you've got a mobile too
And you think so, and you know so,
Better turn it off now or it'll happen to you
A long time it rang!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Once Famous
Date: 30 May 05 - 10:20 PM

I love having a cell phone.

I used to really hate coming home from work, looking for a reliable pay phone, hoping I had the right change, not to mention the phone number handy.

Picking up Chinese food is now just such a breeze.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: number 6
Date: 30 May 05 - 10:59 PM

Get use to cell phones, the land line is going to disappear in the not to far future.

Funny, most people say they hate cellular phones, and then again most people have one.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 May 05 - 03:44 AM

Lots of people feel the same way about marriage.
Giok ¦¬]

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: GUEST,Mrs Miggins
Date: 31 May 05 - 04:12 AM

I don't allow them in the pie shop.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: GUEST,muppitz at work
Date: 31 May 05 - 05:20 AM

I quite like my mobile, I wouldn't be lost without it, but now that I've had one for so long, I'd prefer to have it and although I don't use it for calls very often, I'm a bit of a text-a-holic.
My phone is also useful in that it has a radio on it, I work a lot in my workplace's filing area, which is silent and desolate and most of all bloody lonely, my radio stops me going mad!

muppitz x

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Tam the man
Date: 31 May 05 - 01:30 PM

I don't know my mobile phone number the reason is that I hardly ever use it. When in the town where I live or in a city, I use the public phones boxes to make phone calls, the only time I ever i use my moblie phone in when I'm not near any other phone boxes. (Remember them).
I can't understand these people that use mobile phones in the use when they have land lines phones in the house which are sometimes cheaper than moblie phones.

It is like buying water in the shops, when you can get water out of thing called a tap in your kitchen for nothing.

Tom
PS.
Why buy a phone with a camera when you can get things called cameras to use.
I like my phones to used as phones, if I wanted a phone with a camera I would just buy a camera.

God I could go on about stupid things like this forever.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Leadfingers
Date: 31 May 05 - 02:24 PM

Here's a Dead Sneaky trick if your mobile has an alarm which stes the ringtone off ! When you are going on an Underground train , set the alarm , then when it goes off 300 feet underground , carry on an short imaginary conversation ! Every one who hears yoy will wonder WHERE the HELL did HE get a Mobile that works DOWN HERE !!!!

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 31 May 05 - 02:48 PM

Here is an actual music tie-in to cell phones...

---------------
The novelty single "Axel F" (Gusto) by Crazy Frog upstaged Coldplay's "Speed of Sound" (Parlophone) on yesterday's (May 29) new U.K. singles chart by beating it to No. 1. The track, one of several to emerge from the "frog ringtone" craze, is based around Harold Faltermeyer's 1985 hit of the same name, and is the creation of Wolfgang Boss and Reinhardt Raith, the latter also a member of dance producers Bass Bumpers.

EMI's Parlophone label did however succeed in securing the No. 1 position on the new album chart, as "Demon Days" by Gorillaz went straight to the top.
---------------

Please note... the top song is a RINGTONE!!!

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 31 May 05 - 03:35 PM

I can see that a mobile has its uses, but I am against people using them while driving.

Another serious problem I see is that people are leaving children home alone when the children are too young, using the excuse that Mother can easily be called on her phone. Not a good idea!

Not a serious problem, but this is typical of another trend: young woman is trying to shop. She has a toddler who keeps trying to run off and a baby in a stroller. Cell phone rings - it's her husband, wanting this, that and the other from her. Isn't she doing enough already? If I were her, I would ditch the thing.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: GUEST
Date: 31 May 05 - 03:52 PM

I wish I'd invested in mobile phone technology when it first made its appearance. Foolishly, I thought, "these things are gimmicky toys, attractive to a few techno-geeks only."

I had overlooked one crucial bit of information that mobile phone companies quickly capitalized on: fear.

The principle is to promote a product so that the consumer will feel safer or more confident with it than without it.

True, they are convenient when you break down on the highway, or you need to call 911, like, right now.

Elderly people who wouldn't dream of owning a computer quickly embraced cellular technology. Kids who see them as staus symbols likewise wouldn't be caught out without their cell phones stuck to their ears.

Personally, I consciously resist the push towards being totally "wired in." There are times when I don't want to be available at any time to anyone with my cell phone number. A potential dating partner thought it was a little bit too weird (she said she wasn't "comfortable" dating someone who didn't have a phone number).

That is a fatal mistake in business: projecting that perhaps a significant number of potential customers might think like me.

That, and overlooking the fear factor. Perhaps it's not too late to cash in on this time-tested strategy.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: jpk
Date: 31 May 05 - 04:39 PM

oh lord,what did we do before we had a cell to interrupt us all the time,wait till we got home and set down to the table.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: GUEST
Date: 31 May 05 - 04:50 PM

I bought mine so that I could be contacted if anything happened to my elderly mother after my father died. Never needed it for that emergency but its very useful with the hands free kit to tell her to put the kettle on when I am 5 minutes from her house on a Sunday morning.

The phone is always on silent mode though. If its in a pocket I can feel the vibrate but often don't hear the ring.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 31 May 05 - 04:55 PM

Leeneia - your comment " young woman is trying to shop. She has a toddler who keeps trying to run off and a baby in a stroller. Cell phone rings - it's her husband, wanting this, that and the other from her. Isn't she doing enough already? If I were her, I would ditch the thing."

By thing, do you mean husband or phone?!

And it is illegal to drive whilst on the phone (unless it's a hands-free system) here in the UK. It's driving without due care and attention and has been the major factor in several huge crashes where people died. One chap tried to deny it, but was sort of hung out to dry when the phone company came up with a timed, recorded message which terminated with the phrase 'oh shit I've hit something'.....

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: open mike
Date: 31 May 05 - 07:17 PM

even more wierd is when the person in the ailse fo the store is
on ther phone to someone in the next aisle!!

al , i loved your comment about "kestrel under the counter"

the excuse often given for de-commissioning fo forest fire
look out towers is that "someone will call in on their
cell phone if they see smoke" but that someone is not
trained to pin point the location, and does not know
the difference between dust, smoke or steam!

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: JennyO
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 06:53 AM

They're very handy for finding people at big events like outdoor concerts and folk festivals, but I've seen the funny sight of people walking towards each other talking to each other on their phones until they are almost touching, then saying something like "gotta go" and hanging up just as they reach each other.

I was on my way home one day and just pulling in the driveway when my flatmate rang my mobile and said "Where are you?". I said "look out the window!".

One thing about them I don't like much is text messaging. My daughter texts me a lot because it's cheaper, but then she turns her phone off, so that even if I ring her straight away, all I get is voicemail. I think the business of putting in text messages is downright primitive - it takes far too long to say practically nothing. I use it as little as possible.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 11:18 AM

I don't have a mobile phone & I will never get one.

When my sister went overseas 5 years ago she gave me her phone card & I made 2 calls in the next few years, & ended up giving it to a friend as it was heading towards it's use-by date & there were lots of calls left. I've never needed to make a call outside my home or office since.

At a recent festival some idiot let their phone ring 3 times while another singer was singing a ballad (not a particularly long one, I hasten to add). Next performer made some very pointed remarks about the caller who had asked in the session the night before that people not join in while they were singing. After this event I went to the Festival office to make a suggestion that signs be plastered around next year asking folks to turn off their phones.

A comedian of our acquaintance demands the phone if one rings while he is performing, unfortunately the last time it happened the owner did not hand it over.

We also have legislation against using phones while driving, not that it stops fools cos the phone call is more important than anything. Recently a bus driver was caught on a teenage passenger's camera phone texting while driving a group of school kids & got suspended or dismissed. We have so many inattentive & dangerous drivers on the roads that drivers can't afford to look sideways.

I won't mention my other bugbear, inane conversations in loud voices in public places.

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: mandoleer
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 05:01 PM

I got one when they were brick sized years ago. Called a yuppy by my close friend and neighbour. Got it 'cos I didn't trust my car of the time. Then, we were in Martin Mere (Wildfowl Trust reserve) and made sure we were at the exit by 6.10 (closing was 6.30). Gates locked, 8 foot fence (electrified at the top), no-one in sight. 13 year old daughter (hers) started to panic. Flock of whistling ducks also getting worried (probably because we didn't have any bread). Phoned police and took five minutes explaining to a thick sergeant that I was NOT reporting a stolen car. I could SEE my car. Through a fence. 10 minutes later, very embarassed warden appeared, released us (and gave us some comp. tickets) and said we were the only people ever locked in. Two weeks later, my friend has a phone... I make at least four 112 calls (999 or 911 to most people) a year (being a first aider) and am away camping frequently. I've actually got two - on different networks - but only use one normally. Oh, and that one is the only one in the world with its particular ringtone. If I find another one with it, I'm going to claim royalties 'cos it's one of my own tunes...

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Pauline L
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 05:04 PM

Some of you folks sound like Luddites. If you prefer to have your friends call you on your home phone, not your cell phone, tell them so. If you'd be embarrassed by having your cell phone ring during a concert, turn it off or mute it. If you think it's rude to make fellow travelers on a bus hear your private conversation on your cell phone, don't do it. Cell phones have some good uses. One that has not been mentioned here yet is receiving phone calls when you're on the Internet if you don't have broadband.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: jpk
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 05:52 PM

how about watching someone pull over to answer a second phone, then set it down to get on a third one.saw it happen outside our court house here in twinfalls.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: mandoleer
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 06:25 PM

By the way, I can't see landlines going away. Not while all of us are on the Internet like this. OK, I know one chap who has only GSM connection, but he lives somewhere in Jamaica and hasn't got the option of landline where he is. I know I couldn't run Internet over a mobile.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: JennyO
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 10:36 PM

Some of you folks sound like Luddites. If you prefer to have your friends call you on your home phone, not your cell phone, tell them so.

Luddites, Pauline L? Not me. I like my mobile. You think I haven't told them? The same people who I have told several times did it again two days ago. They left me a message on my mobile and didn't try my home number while I was sat at home all day. Even if they didn't ring it first, wouldn't you think they would at least try it when they couldn't get me on the mobile? That just seems like common sense to me.

And they aren't the only ones. I've had it happen several times, and I always tell them to please try me at home first. I don't see any point in leaving my mobile on at home because it flattens the battery. However if they keep on doing it, it costs me money in the end retrieving their *%#*%#** messages!

It seems some people are so hung up on the idea that newer is automatically better, and wouldn't care if there were no landlines. Obviously these are people with plenty of money to throw around. Ringing a landline is cheaper, so I will always try it first. Unfortunately I fear that in many cases these are the same people who drive their children to and from school in their big 4 wheel drives, and give their 8 year olds mobile phones.

So I'm not a yuppie, and I like to use a little common sense. That doesn't make me a Luddite.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Peace
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 11:16 PM

I have a fire/rescue pager which is on for about 128 hours a week, 350 day per year. There are times it can be a real pain in the butt. I have had it go while I am seated on the throne; entering, sitting in or exiting the bath; eating supper; at a party; at a concert; in church--on those rare occasions; writing songs or stories; sleeping, etc.

We carry a cell phone on calls, but I would never own one. Next to TV, the telephone is the other piece of technology I don't care for. I use it at times, but I don't LIKE it.

BM

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 05:22 AM

JPK - I had that happen to me ... guy behind me in a big car, tailgating as we approached a junction. I looked into my mirror as I always do before braking, to see he had a phone to each ear and was looking at a map on his dash.... wouldn't have been so bad had we been stopped at the junction, but this was doing 50mph towards green lights!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: jpk
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:30 PM

hope he didn't nail your rear liz.jpk

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: jpk
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:35 PM

as i think on it,our cops here holler about the number of acc. caused by cell use and not paying attention while driving,well i walk alot(i like walking)and dang near every cop i see drive by has one of them scerwed to his ear and talking on it,sets a good example i guess.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:50 PM

Have you noticed how hard it is getting these days to find a pay phone if you need one? So many people have mobiles, the pay phones aren't very economic any more.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 07:06 PM

Not sure when I last used a pay phone. But when I do want to use the mobile it is a hell of a job finding a place with a decent signal.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Firecat
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 01:22 PM

My mobile usually gets used for texting my friends, but I think it's a good idea to have one, because if I get held up or something happens to me, I can ring home and tell parents, and if they are worried about me, they can ring me.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Tam the man
Date: 04 Jun 05 - 07:25 AM

where I live in Saltcoats, there is 5 payphones, and then there's is pubs/ clubs and resturants and hotels.

Tom

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Tam the man
Date: 04 Jun 05 - 11:07 AM

What about the mobile phones that use phone cards, where you go into a shop and buy a phone card to put money into it so that you phone, and yet when the money has ran out you can't phone anyone, I mean itss all right if you're in the town or city where you can get another phone card, but what happens if you're stuck somewhere out in the country, and you have no money for your phone, not much use to you then is it.

whereas people like me I have a rental on my phone so I get a bill every month, and they money that I don't spend ie phone calls goes twowards my next bill. and I can use it day or night 24 hours.

Tom
Unless it needs charging of course.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: GUEST,Liz the Squeak
Date: 05 Jun 05 - 05:22 AM

One of the reasons I got my mobile phone was the vain hunt for a pay phone that actually took cash! Apparently I can phone abroad really cheaply, send Emails and check my answerphone, I can even (if really desperate) telephone home, but not if I don't have a credit card.....

In trying to contact the garage, I tried 5 telephone boxes in a 1/2 mile radius of where I was stuck in London. 2 were Orange boxes, 2 were the good old BT red boxes and one was Mercury. 4 out of the 5 would only accept phonecards - an item I'd've happily purchased if there had been anyone within that 1/2 mile who sold them. The fifth was broken and only taking emergency calls. As I was just broken down and not actually injured, on fire or being assaulted, I didn't want to bother them.

In the end, a kindly passer by lent me his mobile to call the garage on, and I got home OK. The next day I went and got my own phone!

(Which, until the upgrade had a unique ringtone which I composed. Can't do that on my new phone, much to my annoyance, but at least it doesn't play that bloody awful frog!)

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: mandoleer
Date: 05 Jun 05 - 06:18 PM

Reason most telephone boxes only take phone cards is economic. People don't bother pinching the phones from them 'cos there's no money in there... Used to be a telephone box at the top of my road. Now there isn't. Odd thing is no-one seems to know how long it's been gone. A neighbour was very surprised when I told her it wasn't there.

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jun 05 - 06:33 PM

Remember when the phone boxes also had a full set of phone books in?

Subject: RE: BS: mobile phones
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 06 Jun 05 - 03:19 AM

I once used a phone box that didn't smell of wee....

A rare thing indeed.


LTS