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In Memory: Stan Rogers (1949-1983)

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gnu 02 Jun 05 - 01:48 PM
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George Papavgeris 02 Jun 05 - 03:26 PM
ToulouseCruise 02 Jun 05 - 03:28 PM
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George Papavgeris 02 Jun 05 - 03:33 PM
Melani 02 Jun 05 - 03:42 PM
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Strollin' Johnny 02 Jun 05 - 04:13 PM
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Subject: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 01:36 PM

June 2nd, 1983....

"So tonight I'll wish upon these stars
As they rise upward to guide me
That I'll see you here just as you are
Now, as then, beside me
Scares me how the years have flown
Like the leaves drift in September
They've lost sight of you as your legacy's grown
But this road and I
We remember"
-Garnet Rogers, "Night Drive"-

Wish I'd been around to see you when you were here Stan... I'm VERY grateful that I can still hear you, at least.

See ya down the road, some day or other, Stan

Thanks


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 01:48 PM

I was listening to Stan's tapes last night and most of the day today. Thanks, Stan. RIP.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Peace
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 02:47 PM

Ditto the boys above, Stan.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 02:48 PM

I remember two years ago, when it was the 20th anniversary of his death. I was rather disappointed that there was absolutely no media mention, printed or visual, regarding this fine Canadian. Nice to know he won't be forgotten!

"Ah, for just one time I would take the Northwest Passage
To find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort Sea;
Tracing one warm line through a land so wild and savage
And make a Northwest Passage to the sea.."

Brian


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:04 PM

A writer of songs that catch the heart and soul of Canada and the human condition. Northwest Passage is a Canadian anthem, and stands out as the signature tune for a wonderful man. Glad his family are continuing with his legacy. Garnet is a star in his own right now. Thank you Stan, your music lives on forever.

Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: frogprince
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:25 PM

You don't have to be Canadian. Stan was a richly and rarely gifted man.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:26 PM

One of the greatest contemporary songwriters in the world.
I remember watching reports of the accident on TV, years before I heard of Stan or his music, giving rise to the following:

They say you were a big man, Stan,
They say that you could shade the sun
Just standing there a solid six foot four;
And when it was your turn to sing
The windowpanes they say would ring
As your voice seemed to rise up through the floor.
If every thing about you was just half of what they say
It would have been enough to turn me green.
Yet I didn't know the treasure that was lost that summer's day
As I watched your death upon a TV screen.

Proud child of the Maritimes
The people you'd recall and times
When living could be earned with honest toil;
And passionately sang of those
Who through the centuries opposed
The forces that would raid your native soil.
Ten thousand miles away from you and twenty years too late
Your messages did reach me loud and clear;
Though little of your world I knew, your passion was so great
That I'm not ashamed to say I shed a tear.

The world you spoke of gone is now
The times have changed and still somehow
The words you wrote now even more apply.
I am not family or friend;
This song I don't know where to send.
Perhaps you'll hear if I sing to the sky.
And one thing I can promise is we never will forget
The giant with the voice that hearts could fill.
The power of your songs will always catch souls in the net
And through the songs the man is living still.

And I wish I could have met you
And I wish I'd known you well
For your songs are ringing in my ears
As clear as any bell;
But every time we reach out
In chorus or refrain,
Like the Mary Ellen Carter
In our hearts you rise again.

"I wish I could have met you" - George Papavgeris, 2003
PS Don't start about the "child of the Maritimes" bit, we had that conversation last year.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:28 PM

hehe, El G. I saw that right away and thought about mentioning it, then I thought, "Hell, Stan himself took some historical liberties on 'Barretts Privateers', so why not?"

Brian


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:33 PM

And when I reach that last big shoal
Where the groundswells break asunder,
Where the wild sands roll to the surge's toll
Let me be a man and take it
When my dory fails to make it.

Oh take me back to that snug green cove
Where the seas roll up their thunder
There let me rest
In the Earth's cool breast
Where the stars shine out their wonder
And the seas roll up their thunder.


He didn't write it, but he did record it....


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:33 PM

In the end we agreed that he was their "spiritual" child, though genetically once removed :-)


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Melani
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:42 PM

He'll certainly never be forgotten as long as people sing.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:07 PM

I feel priveledged to have seen and met Stan a couple times when he was through Illinois. I have some photos a friend took of Stan and Garnet playing at Charlotte's Webb (to an audience of 11, boy folks didn't know what they were missing)that are great.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:13 PM

Only the good die young.
Gone, but never forgotten Stan, thanks for the songs.
RIP
S:0)


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST,Dan in Nova Scotia
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:20 PM

And it will be I'll come again
To loved ones left at home
Put the journals on the mantle
Bake the frost out of my bones
Leaving memories far behind me
Only memories after all
And hardships then the hardest to recall

Ah for just one time....

I'll have a chance to sing this and other Stan songs in A Matter of Heart, June 21-25 at the Sterling Festival Theatre in Sterling Ontario. Hopefully see some of you there.

Next time I'm oin the UK I'll be expecting that full chorus.

Thanks Stan.

Cheers,

Dan


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:41 PM

Have a good one, Dan; and I hope you get to sing "MEC" again while playing Stan's 12-string... If you do, remember me.

V & I remember you and N


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: HipflaskAndy
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 05:23 PM

Hi Dan - you made my year singing the chorus of Northwest Passage on the end of the Trad 'Franklin' at the Moor and Coast Fest. Once again - thanks!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST,Dan in Nova Scotia
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 05:56 PM

Hello El Greko and V and Hipflask,

I've been so wrapped up in working on Stan's music for the show I almost forgot what day it was. Quite a way to spend June 2nd, listening to Stan for hours... and hours....

My two favorites of Stan's are Mary Ellen Carter and North West Passage and I'm just happy to be able to do lend my voice to them. Next time across we'll raise the roof with a few good choruses so they'll be able to hear it back here in Canada.

On a personal note, I'll also be having the Canadian release of my latest cd "Fields of Dreams and Glory" on June 11th which will be taped by CBC Radio locally here in Halifax, Nova Scotia. The special guest accompianist is Paul Mills, aka Curly Boy Stubbs. You never know what might happen....

(I'll start a new thread about this soon.)

Rise again....

Cheers,

Dan


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:12 PM

I never met him, and I never heard his music until he was gone. Still, there are many places a person can start from when beginning a journey, and Stan's music was one for me. He wrote many songs that many people wanted to sing. Nowadays, people tend to write more for people to listen than to steal.

I wonder what you'd say if you were here
Where the answers are never easy nor the questions even clear
And heroes have to learn their strength and angels earn their wings
And one single life can change so many things
...and one single life can change so many things


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:13 PM

I knew 'Barrett's Privateers' and the 'Mary Ellen Carter' from others' recordings but only came across 'Home in Halifax' and 'North West Passage' some months back. They're among my favourite albums now. What a songwriter! What a singer!


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Dave Swan
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:15 PM

Yes indeed, a hell of a singer and songwriter.

I never miss a chance to visit the Copper King when I'm in the Yukon.

I had quite a talk with him a few days before the accident, and he was warm and friendly. We had a few drinks and a few laughs.

Nice going, Stan.

D


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:18 PM

A few?


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: JedMarum
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:40 PM

I too remember hearing about the accident - and had never heard of Stan, at the time. It was many years later that I learned, and loved his music.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:52 PM

*Singing*
"But the deck is too steady...
Down at the Sailors Rest"

Probably my fav Stan song...

:-)


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Devilmaster
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 01:28 AM

'Ah your anchor chain's a fetter
And with it you are tethered to the foam,
And I wouldn't trade your whole life for just one hour of home.'

Stan Rogers Articles - From the London Free Press, 2 days after the plane accident.

Steve


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: TS
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 11:07 AM

Was nothing but a kitten when Stan left life in this world. Grew up listening to him but had a re-birth at last year's StanFest in Canso. A must attend for all frends of Stan. The number of people he has touched through lyrics...amazing! Met Ariel that night. A gem.. you almost feel like you really knew Stan just by speaking with her. Dia Dhuit Stan!


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Metchosin
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 11:52 AM

In memory of Stan, help make the JUNOS stand for something, other than bull shit.


Stan Rogers Petition


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 12:06 PM

"Mary Ellen Carter" helped me get through a very rough time back about 1988.   And "MacDonnell On the Heights" did in 1997. Other songs that have touched me are "The Idiot," "The Field Behind The Plow," "Fogarty's Cove," "Bluenose," "Free In The Harbour," "Sailors' Rest," -- oh, heck, an awful lot of them.

And, it should go without saying, "North West Passage."


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 01:24 PM

Gone but not forgotten.

45 years was the first track I heard him sing

Thanks also to Eric Bogle for recording Lock-keeper and Artisan for airing Mary Ellen Carter on the radio

thanks to Marilyn Middleton for sing a clutch of S R

And please keep singing him Dan, although your Fields of Dreams and Glory is a worthy album and I hope it is received with the same plus factor .


Is he {SR} still played at the Oh Canada exposition at Epcot as the theme music to the film?


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: TS
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 01:33 PM

Now thtat I think about it...Stan has played a major role in my normal set lists...Fogarty's Cove, Barrett's Privateers, Mary Ellen Carter, and Forty-Five Years are all on the list of my band...my solo stuff includes the above along with Sailor's Rest, Lies, Acadian Saturday Night, White Squall, and Field Behind the Plow. Thanks again Stan!


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 11:17 PM

There's a lot of great songs that Stan wrote. I knew a relationship I was in was in trouble when "Forty-Five Years" stopped running through my head when I was hanging around with the party of the second part. (It had been replaced with Richard Thompson's "Walking on a Wire"). Our Christmas band still performs "First Christmas Away From Home." Another Stan song I really like is "Harris and the Mare." Though, I find it's hard to do. If it's over sung, it's ruined, which is why you don't hear a lot of people do it.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 04 Jun 05 - 10:26 AM

For Harris you have to be a very good singer, Marilyn Middleton does it well.

At last I'm ready for..... I know its early but a great seasonal song at any time of year if you can count off the days!!!

many of Stan's songs are performed better by many other singers, Artisan did justice to MECarter IMHO


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Jun 05 - 10:32 AM

Thanks also for "The Jeanie C," and his rendition of Archie Fisher's "Witch of the Westmerland.

And for the memories of hosting Stan and the gang at Rivendell Co-op in Lansing, Michigan, so many years ago.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 04 Jun 05 - 12:52 PM

" many of Stan's songs are performed better by many other singers"

I hear lots who THINK they are....


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jun 05 - 06:10 PM

You got that right, Clinton. Meself and the lads used to perform a half dozen or so of his songs. But, we also used to tell the crowd where they could buy the 'real tapes' and enjoy the 'real tunes'.

Man, we used to have some good times with his music. Everyone around here knew (knows) the tunes and all you had to do was hit the first note and the crowd would get into it.... Pumpin' like mad men all the way...

I wonder what he might have done had he not been taken too soon.

Aw, shite, I sound like a wounded puppy. Enough.

gnight


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: frogprince
Date: 04 Jun 05 - 08:10 PM

I was lucky enough to at least see Stan live from a distance,
performing in Chicago; I had already been hearing some of the
great songs for years. I saw the hairline, and knew his
established reputation, and I guess I assumed he was pushing
50, until years after he was gone when I learned he died at
33. He had to have emerged as a force, and gained recognition
for it, quite young. With the breadth and strength of his
material, and the power of that voice, I don't think this was
a case of being saved from obscurity by dying at the right time.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST,Charley Noble
Date: 05 Jun 05 - 10:18 AM

I remember being at a Peoples Music Weekend gathering in New York when the news came of the fire aboard Stan's plane and his death. It was a sad time but at least we had good friends to help sing him home.

Charley Noble, who still misses the big lug with the heart of gold


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Willie-O
Date: 06 Jun 05 - 09:22 AM

Hey Guest Dan in NS, is that a missing verse to "NW Passage" which was written by Stan? Verrrrrry intriguing.

Bill Cameron


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST,Bernie
Date: 06 Jun 05 - 12:14 PM

I never think of Stan without thinking of Kate Wolf,both of them gone so early.....and reflecting on what might have been.......I wish more people could hear her lovely tribute to the man "All he ever saw was you"[reminiscent,of course,of "Forty five years].....

And now the flame is out,but the light burns on
No one ever said he was bigger than his songs
So few ever knew the heart inside the man
But he gave himself away,as only poets can

He took the stories of his people,and gave them back in rhyme
But, for the pleasures of the hearth ,there was never enough time
He said one day he'd quit,and then he would come home
but there was always one more stage,always one more road

CH:
The candle's burning at both ends,it's burning in the middle
but there's no time to stop between the guitar and the fiddle
A crazy tune,a crazy time,but you know the words were true
Smiles lit their eyes,but all he ever saw was you

And the road finally claimed him,like a sailor lost at sea
Setting sail on a horizon that would not let him be
Following a star that drew him like a flame
And tho' he loved you well,it was not the same

The candle's burning........


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST,John Cowan
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 12:17 AM

I heard the announcement at the Clearwater Festival, the best place and the worst place to hear it. Stan had played Clearwater a year or two before, and then we'd heard him close up and personal at Spencertown, NY (a few miles from my house) and bought all four albums (that's all there were then, LPs) on the spot. Still have 'em.

I never saw him in person again after that, but bought all the albums religiously, since upgraded to CDs. I sing his songs to myself and my family a lot.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 03:36 AM

link/search to Stan Rogers Youtube


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Megan L
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 03:42 AM

Try this one Barrats Pivateers


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 04:08 AM

Thank you Megan L , have a house point

i just dont know how its done yet

then go to

Nathan Rogers Youtube

and find him doing Field behind the Plow, the hairline , the voice, the legacy

And I believe

he's coming to the Uk in 09

Did I hear Herga Folk Club mentioned?


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Megan L
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 04:16 AM

Breezy don't know if i do the clickies the easiest way but what i do is
1. in another window open the thing i want you to look at
2 highlight thewriting in the address bar. so for the page we are on at the moment it would read http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=81707&messages=46
3. go down to the bottom of theis page you will find   (Make a link ("blue clicky") )
4. in the top box paste the link you copied
5 in the next box down give it a title (The name of the song or a keyword)
6. click on CREATE LINK
7. copy the link including the arrows at both ends
8 paste the link into your message and there ya go :)


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 04:32 AM

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zAvuCMJ3EBk&feature=related




i did try

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zAvuCMJ3EBk&feature=related


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 04:33 AM

have i done it

What did you get?

please confirm


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 04:37 AM

Thanks Stan

and Megan L

xxx

Idiot


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 05:00 AM

now you've done your first blue clicky the universe is yours!

Megan's way is a good one. Some folks just paste in a website eg. www.google.com - without the http:// in front & wonder why their clicky doesn't work.

If it doesn't include the http:// the blickifier treats it as a page from www.mudcat.org

sandra


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: topical tom
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 11:04 AM

Stan was a truly great singer-songwriter. I saw him once live at the Owen Sound Summerfolk Festival and was blown away by his performance.

Eric Bogle's tribute to Stan Rogers is a really moving one.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 11:31 AM

Stan's son Nathan has been writing and performing his own outstanding songs. There are some comparisions with his father, especially the magnificent voice and quality of songwriting, but Nathan is unique.   We are presenting him at the Hurdy Gurdy in Fair Lawn on Saturday March 7.   www.hurdygurdyfolk.org


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 12:12 PM

And Nathan's over here (UK) in the Summer.

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo-Hoo! :-)


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST,Henryp
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 12:40 PM

Cuckoo's Nest Folk Club, London, Ontario

Nathan Rogers

Sun. Feb. 8, 7:30 pm 122 Carling St., London, ON
$15 Advance <> $18 Door (Doors open at 7:00 pm)

Watch Nathan sing "The Field Behind The Plow" on YouTube recorded at Home County Folk Festival 2008

Listen to Music Samples at http://www.nathanrogers.ca/music.html

Fortunately, as a singer and performer, talent is hereditary. On this debut CD "True Stories", Nathan Rogers melds traditional and original tunes that range in style from folk to blues to country to rock. He sings with the anger of Phil Ochs and a storytelling knack that emanates from his roots. The son of the late folksinger Stan Rogers and nephew of folksinger Garnet Rogers, the latest Rogers to take up folk music is also becoming known for his singing voice, his songwriting, playing many instruments and "telling outrageously funny stories."


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Ref
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 07:22 PM

Thanks for the links and suggestions everyone.

I sing Stan's songs (and "Stan-songs")a lot, though I never heard him until after he'd died. "Field" was the first one I heard and I was heartbroken to find he was already beyond us. I've treasured listening to Garnet and his wonderful songs and stories. Now there's another generation.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GEST
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 10:12 PM

Artist Listing Page for Stan Rogers at GEST Songs of Newfoundland and Labrador.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: CupOfTea
Date: 22 Jan 09 - 12:10 AM

I never had a chance to see Stan Rogers live, and acquired a delight in his music through Bob Conrad on WCLV's Saturday Night show (Kissin cousin to WFMT's Midnight Special in those days). So many of my friends and folk acquaintances knew him, some could claim friendship, and from them I got a feel for the person behind the sound on the radio or tape player. In years after I got to know and appreciate Garnet in his own right in helping present him here a several times.

But it wasn't until last week, when I was off on a link-to-link websurf through UTube land that I came across several clips of Stan actually performing or being interviewed. I loved his comment about writing Barrett's Privateers so HE could sing the lead, and not the Friends of Fiddlers Green... and then there were THOSE lovely lads, and lads they were then - a group of them singing it around a kitchen table, and I could recognize Stan and Garnet, but, not the others, all so young so young!

Certainly, my life would have been better had I heard the man live, but I'm freshly in awe of the technology where I can SEE what he looked like on stage (and singing around a kitchen table) - and not just him but others who are gone, others who have aged for good or ill, but still, access to a wealth of musical performaces of the past, and how technology can do incredible good in keeping tradition alive; awed, in the old fashioned strength of the word.

Joanne in Cleveland


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 22 Jan 09 - 04:59 PM

Three of the others around the table were Dermot O'Reilly, Dennis Ryan, and Fergus O'Byrne. (members of the Irish folk band Ryan's Fancy.)
This clip of them singing Barrett's Privateers comes from an old CBC special


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 22 Jan 09 - 05:48 PM

That CBC special was called One Warm Line. The whole show can be found here:

Stan (One Warm Line)


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST,Gweltas1
Date: 22 Jan 09 - 07:14 PM

My special thanks and appreciation to Sandy McLean for posting the link to the "One Warm Line" documentary, which I thoroughly enjoyed. Discovering Stan's legacy of songs has been a recent event for me and I had not known that this programme existed. Thanks again.
Best regards,
Gweltas1


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 22 Jan 09 - 07:39 PM

You're welcome Gweltas1!
If you are not already a Mudcat member this forum is loaded with great stuff and information from people far more knowledgeable than myself.   
Membership is free;stick around!


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Ref
Date: 22 Jan 09 - 10:26 PM

Great! Thanks, Sandy. I knew it existed, but not about it being available on-line. This really shows how much passion infused his singing and writing.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Simon G
Date: 23 Jan 09 - 05:04 AM

In 2008 I made an attempt to sing 25 Stan Roger's songs in singarounds (song circles). This was in memory of the 25 years since his death.

I'd never heard of Stan Rogers until 4 years ago when I started noticing his name cropping up as the writers of a song or two every week at singarounds here in England. It is amazing he has had such an impact on English singers, yet he never visited here.

Given I'd only ever tried a couple of his songs before this it was hard work, and I got sidetracked towards the end of the year so only managed 18. If I can make the time I'll finish off the other 7 before the anniversary of his death in June.

I was amazed by the variety of songs, styles, subject matter. Even more amazing was his perception of the world as seen from 50, 60, 70 years olds when he was in his twenties.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 23 Jan 09 - 01:03 PM

Your welcome Ref!
Yes Simon, Stan wrote from a mature perspective.
I don't know if he performed in England but he did tour Scotland with John Allen Cameron before he was well known.
            Sandy


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 23 Jan 09 - 01:20 PM

Look out for Nathan's visit then Simon, I've seen heard and met him, he's a fun guy, check him out on a youtube

and welcome


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST,Logan leslie
Date: 08 May 09 - 05:04 PM

If, some day, I am enlightened enough to master the pen, I will write
something to describe what "Sir" Stanley Rogers has meant to his family and strangers and ,of course his nation.. Until then, I would like to express my deepest gratitute to his family, especially Garnet, for his inspiration and support, as a brother and cohort.
Stan Rogers;
I will go to my grave knowing I have lived in the times of giants.
Thank you, sir.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Charley Noble
Date: 08 May 09 - 09:07 PM

Logan Leslie-

And here's a glass to you as well!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 09 May 09 - 03:30 AM

Nathan Rogers will soon be starting his tour of the U K


Having already met, seen and heard him perform , he is someone I am looking forward to seeing again

I hope to be at the Herga club in london on Monday 8th June ....at least.

Great clubs at Folk on the moor and at Bodmin


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 16 Sep 09 - 06:53 PM

Tonight I heard a Stan Rogers song for the first time in my life when someone at my local singaround sang "Barrett's Privateers". F***ing phenomenal! I will now make it my pleasure and duty to explore Mr Rogers' back catalogue.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Emma B
Date: 16 Sep 09 - 07:01 PM

Spleen Cringe, I envy you - you have so very much to look forward to!


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Kampervan
Date: 16 Sep 09 - 07:05 PM

Welcome to the membership of a very large club.

I have, I think, a copy of every one of his c.d.s and I continue to marvel at the catalogue of songs from someone who sadly died whilst still so very young.
Although it tends to be the music that is the instant appeal, I find a resonance in the words to many of his songs that not many writers can achieve, IMHO.

Enjoy discovering him.

K/van


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: clueless don
Date: 17 Sep 09 - 09:42 AM

I remember when I first heard the news. I was at the vendors booth at the Washington Folk Festival (this would have been June of 1983), and I asked about Stan Rogers albums. The proprietor said something like "Everyone wants their recordings after they're gone", or similar words. I said "What are you telling me?", and he gave the news about Stan Rogers' death.

I didn't find any mention of his death in my local newspaper, The Washington Post (perhaps it was there, but I didn't find it.) I finally had to go to the The Library of Congress to find a mention in a Toronto newspaper (the headline was something like "Jet Fire Tragedy Spans Canada".)

I had seen Mr. Rogers for the first time within a month or two before his death, at a local club (The Birchmere.)

Don


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Charmion
Date: 18 Sep 09 - 09:11 AM

The news of Stan Rogers' death broke on the morning of my graduation from Queen's University; I heard it on the car radio as I drove to the convocation.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: gnu
Date: 30 Sep 09 - 06:54 PM

Did not know this one was on yoy tube. Not his best song, but his best known song.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 30 Sep 09 - 07:43 PM

Downloaded two albums - "Northwest Passage" & "Fogarty's Cove" - off eMusic this week. Wonderful stuff! (incidently, heard Pint & Dale for the first time, too. My lucky week).


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Beer
Date: 30 Sep 09 - 10:44 PM

Great find Gnu. I certainly know the song but had not seen this clip before.
Beer (adrien)


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Oct 09 - 08:19 AM

Spleen Cringe, do yourself a favour and pickup "Live between the Breaks". I am in the studio this week with Paul Mills, who produced all of these albums. He was telling me that this particular album was done completely live with no overdubs or editing. When you hear the intricacy of it, it will blow you away.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 01 Oct 09 - 08:27 AM

Cheers, Mick! I shall put it straight onto my "wants" list.

Nigel


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 07:44 PM

Last Night saw a TV doco on the Air Crash investigation of the flight on which Stan was killed.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 07:55 PM

Hey FT.....Was that the documentary with Paul Mills in it? Saw a couple and that one was excellent.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: ollaimh
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 01:43 PM

stan wasn't from the maritimes but his parents were and he opened up a lot of roads for musicians from the maritimes. before him canadian folkies would mosty only listen to maritime music if it was played by some one from anglo montreal or toronto or vancouver. they all had theiur "official"" maritimers. i know i played all those places back in the seventies and eighties and was tuened away from the official folk while getting the gigs and the nearby american festival gigs.

after stan the "gods of canadian folk" no longer were listened to by the real audience and many maritime bands and solos did fablously. before it was like black music in the inited states before elvis. after elvis the main stream listened to black people play black music.the twooldest bigotries in canada are against natives and then against gaels--who make most of the maritimes music with the acadiens to be recognized as well.

after stan rogers people listened to maritimers play maritime music and thats great. he opened many doors. john allan cameron started opening them but stan blew them off their hinges.and he wrote from the heart to the heart and his songs are sung everywhere because of it.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Amos
Date: 09 Mar 10 - 07:43 PM

Stan himself singing. What a guy.

Barrett's Privateers

A breathtaking rendition of Mary Ellen Carter.

A


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Beer
Date: 09 Mar 10 - 08:57 PM

Great numbers Amos. Back then Garnet took a back seat. He is doing very well since his brothers passing. In music that is. Other than that I really don't know.
Adrien


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers (1949-1983)
From: gnu
Date: 20 May 10 - 07:12 PM

Nice tribute.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers (1949-1983)
From: GUEST,Kendall
Date: 20 May 10 - 07:45 PM

I think of him every time I run my rider lawn mower around the property....ease the throttle out a hair every rod's a gain, there's victory in every quarter mile..

Truly one of the greats, and a hell of a loss to us all.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers (1949-1983)
From: gnu
Date: 20 May 10 - 07:52 PM

Yes, Kendall... he was just getting out of the harbour.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers (1949-1983)
From: Jeri
Date: 20 May 10 - 08:22 PM

I wrote this in 2005. There is STILL a radio host in these parts who talks about how Stan heroically saved so many lives before finally succumbing to smoke inhalation. He never made it off the plane at all. I kept wondering why the story ever got blown up so big, but I suppose it's just what people do. It must be hard for those who really knew him, though.

Personally, I think what made him heroic was his music, and how many people he touched, and continues to touch with it.

There's a candle on the table,
There's a thought that I must free
So I'll sing as if you, my friend,
Were sitting here with me
You know, you've got my sympathy
It's hard enough for me these days
It must be tough for a ghost to live up
To all the praise

You lived your life with passion
But you did all you could do,
So folks add on and the legend grows,
But it's not really you
The truth, it ought to be enough,
But it never is, it seems,
So they turn you into the hero of their dreams

And I wonder what you'd say if you were here
Where the answers are never easy, nor the questions even clear
And heroes have to learn their strength and angels earn their wings,
But one single life can change so many things

The legend or the truth,
Folks believe what they like best
But the memories are enough for me,
To Hell with all the rest...
I'd better get upstairs now,
They already think I'm mad
But as friends go,
You're the best I ever had

And I wonder what you'd say if you were here
Where the answers are never easy, nor the questions even clear
And heroes have to learn their strength and angels earn their wings
And one single life can change so many things
One single life can change so many things


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers (1949-1983)
From: gnu
Date: 21 May 10 - 09:42 AM

Jeri... great stuff!


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers (1949-1983)
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 22 Aug 11 - 09:53 AM

We need heroes, so we manufacture them.
Billy the kid was a homicidal moron.
Jesse James robbed the rich and kept it.
Mr. Rogers was never a war hero.
Nor was Capt. Kangaroo.

We need a king.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers (1949-1983)
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Dec 15 - 06:01 PM

I was 40, recently married and with a young son having just arrived and living in Toronto when Stan was killed in this horrible event. I'd seen him at Mariposa and other locations since arriving from BC to study at Ryerson in 1969. I loved Stan's music, especially 'Make and Break Harbour'which has stayed with me all these years. I wrote to his Mom at the time of his death and heard from her not too long after, just before we moved to Vermont. I have her card somewhere. It's 2015 now. I'm almost 74 and just bought Stan's 'Turnaround' LP to go with several others I've had since then !!


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers (1949-1983)
From: kendall
Date: 02 Dec 15 - 08:27 PM

It doesn't get any easier with the passing of time.


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Subject: ADD: Lies (Stan Rogers)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 May 17 - 02:08 AM

Thread #123912   Message #2733007
Posted By: Emma B
28-Sep-09 - 06:27 AM
Thread Name: BS: Strange old woman in my house...
Subject: ADD: Lies (Stan Rogers)

Lies by the late great Stan Rogers

LIES
(Stan Rogers)

At last the kids are gone now for the day.
She reaches for the coffee as the school bus pulls away.
Another day to tend the house and plan
For Friday at the Legion when she's dancing with her man.

Sure was a bitter winter, but Friday will be fine,
And maybe last year's Easter dress will serve her one more time.
She'd pass for twenty-nine but for her eyes.
But winter lines are telling wicked lies.

CHORUS
All lies.
All those lines are telling wicked lies.
Lies all lies.
Too many lines there in that face,
Too many to erase or disguise;
They must be telling lies.

Is this the face that won for her the man
Whose amazed and clumsy fingers put that ring upon her hand?
No need to search that mirror for the years.
The menace in their message shouts across the blur of tears.

So this is Beauty's finish. Like Rodin's "Belle Heaulmiere,"
The pretty maiden trapped inside the ranch wife's toil and care.
Well, after seven kids, that's no surprise,
But why cannot her mirror tell her lies?

All lies.
All those lines are telling wicked lies.
Lies, all lies.
Too many lines there in that face,
Too many to erase or disguise;
They must be telling lies.

Then she shakes off the bitter web she wove,
And turns to set the mirror, gently, face down by the stove.
She gathers up her apron in her hand,
Pours a cup of coffee, drips Carnation from the can,
And thinks ahead to Friday, 'cause Friday will be fine!
She'll look up in that weathered face that loves hers, line for line,
To see that maiden shining in his eyes
And laugh at how her mirror tells her lies.

All lies.
All those lines are telling wicked lies.
Lies, all lies.
Too many lines there in that face,
Too many to erase or disguise;
They must be telling lies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2FjBokBAQo

Proofread and corrected with recording. -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers (1949-1983)
From: GUEST,Brian Grayson
Date: 29 May 17 - 09:40 AM

I remember...

Stan at the Carden Street Cafe in Guelph, Ontario, during a break, chatting and describing a meal he'd prepared.

God, the man could tell a story so well - by the time he'd finished, I could swear I'd eaten the meal, and I was full!

Funny how things like that go into the memory palace, eh?

I still miss him, and I'm still angry at his senseless death.


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