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Castilla Guitar

Anne 19 Dec 98 - 02:58 AM
clansfolk 19 Dec 98 - 06:03 AM
Roger in Baltimore 19 Dec 98 - 08:51 AM
murray@mpce.mq.edu.au 19 Dec 98 - 06:53 PM
murray@mpce.mq.edu.au 19 Dec 98 - 06:55 PM
Barbara 19 Dec 98 - 07:06 PM
murray@mpce.mq.edu.au 20 Dec 98 - 03:25 AM
Bill D 22 Dec 98 - 04:05 PM
GUEST,castilla neck 01 Aug 06 - 04:42 PM
GUEST,Jacob 21 Aug 06 - 11:15 PM
Wilfried Schaum 22 Aug 06 - 04:19 AM
GUEST 19 Sep 07 - 10:00 PM
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GUEST,Judy 05 May 08 - 12:05 AM
GUEST,Judy 18 May 08 - 11:32 AM
GUEST,fluffy 26 Oct 09 - 01:09 PM
Don Firth 26 Oct 09 - 02:59 PM
Songbob 26 Oct 09 - 04:21 PM
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GUEST 23 Nov 09 - 06:17 PM
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Subject: Castilla Guitar
From: Anne
Date: 19 Dec 98 - 02:58 AM

Hey Folks: I carried this message over from "What Guitar..." My 12 year old son was just given a 30 year old Castilla Guitar from his grandparents. He plays piano and drums and has taken an interest in guitar...yeah! Here's the quandry, since this guitar is so old should he be playing it? I think it's a classical guitar with steel strings on it, based on the fact that there is no pickguard. Does it make a difference? He's teaching himself from a library book. He's tuning against his piano and hopefully some lessons will happen. Thanks for any info on the Castilla.

Anne


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: clansfolk
Date: 19 Dec 98 - 06:03 AM

Hi

A lot of guitars appear to be classical guitars at first view - the open head stock often fools most people!

If you can't find details of the actual guitar, I use the following guide lines,

Are the winders(tuners)centers made of metal (metal centres tend to imply steel strung - wider plastic/bone etc tend to be nylon strung)

Has the guitar a Tail piece? most nylon strung guitars have a fixed bridge (without 'pins')

Is the neck wide or narrow (wide implies nylon - narrow steel)

Is the neck curved or straight (across its width) - curved = steel Flat = nylon.

Fixed bridge with pins usually goes with a steel strung guitar - a straight through bridge with fancy inlay - not just dots - tends toward nylon.

Of course there are several other variations - most nylon strung classical guitar have 12 frets not he now normal 14 frets - although early steel strung (parlour etc) also had 12 frets.

The best bet is to check through early books - guitar history or this site (I'm sure many more people will add their comments) and trace the exact model as lots of damage can be caused by adding the wrong kind of strings - worse being steel strings on nylon guitar but also the other way around (Nylon & Steel strings always worry me!)

All the best in your search..

& Merry Xmas

Pete (Clansfolk) UK


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 19 Dec 98 - 08:51 AM

Castilla,

Any guitar store with an "in-house" repairman will answer your question quickly although clansfolk has given you excellent guidelines. A 30 year old guitar is not an "old" guitar if it has been treated well. The greatest evils are temperature and humidity (especially humidity). They can lead to problems with the finish and to cracking of the wood. Cracks are most likely to appear aong the grain of the top, sides, and back. Most guitar stores sell humidifiers (for 10 to 15 dollars, American) you can place in the guitar or case to keep the proper humidity. As for temperature, if you are comfortable in that temperature (in your shirt sleeves) the guitar will be comfortable. Freezing porches and steaming hot car interiors can be a problem.

A well made guitar is not especially at 30 years. I have two guitars over 30 that I play. I have suffered more from those 30 years than the guitars have.

It is imperative that you get the right answer about steel versus nylon strings. Nylon strings place much less tension on the guitar and so they can be build "lighter". Steel strings will eventually cause serious damage to the nylon string guitar. My one personal experience (an error of youth) led to the bridge being ripped right off the face of the guitar. If the guitar is meant to have steel strings, it will enjoy them better than nylon, and they will sound better with steel strings.

May your son and you, enjoy the guitar.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 19 Dec 98 - 06:53 PM

One thing I can add. There is a style of guitar that is found made in Europe. It has a slotted head (but with small diameter centers than with the plastic/bone classical), a moveable bridge and tailpiece like a violin except the tailpiece is made of metal and is screwed in on the back, and a flat belly. The neck is narrower than a classical neck and has very little if any of the curvature described by clansfolk. They usually have a "zero fret", which is a fret close to the nut used to stop the string at the headstock end rather than for fretting. There is usually no truss rod, although immitations of the Selmers do have them.

The design of a tailpiece instead of a bridge connected to the belly allows the instrument to have a lighter strutting for a given tension. In fact the limiting factor as to how heavy the strings you can put on is what the neck and neck joint will bear.

I had one that seemed to be designed for extra-light steel strings. I had a mechanic wedge up the fingerboard a bit to compensate for neck bowing and put on light strings. So far it seems to be holding up.

Still, the best thing to do is to ask a qualified techmician.

A dealer can tell you how valuable it is too. Unless there is something wrong with it, I don't think playing it will harm it. Of course there is a danger of loss....

Murray


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 19 Dec 98 - 06:55 PM

Oh yeah, and I forgot to say that this kind of guitar tends not to have a pickguard.

Murray


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: Barbara
Date: 19 Dec 98 - 07:06 PM

The name itself suggests that the guitar is a nylon string classical, (Castilla=castillian Spanish language/region) and should have nylon strings on it. Did it come with steel strings on it? If so check for damage: point the guitar straight away from you and eyeball down the neck. Is the line of the edge of the fingerboard from the nut to the bridge straight?
Yes, good. No, the neck has a ski jump in it -- the strings are warping the neck.
Seems like Castilla is a fairly common name, I think, of a not too expensive classical type, but posting to the guitar/instrument lists would get you a more complete answer.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 20 Dec 98 - 03:25 AM

I should have though of that Barbara, since I read that list. The list to post to is

rec.music.makers.guitars.acoustic

They are a knowledegable bunch.

Murray


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Dec 98 - 04:05 PM

here is a music store the sells Castilla guitars..folk OR classical...a fairly cheap guitar, it seems..so, the guidelines mentioned should tell you which one it is

http://www.doshermusic.com/guitjuly.htm


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,castilla neck
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 04:42 PM

i am looking for a neck for my dads castilla model s7s and i was wondering if you knew where to find one.


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Jacob
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 11:15 PM

I have a castilla KG 97. It is a steel string guitar.
Overall its not a great guitar but it sounds great and has a wonderful tone especially in the lower bass strings.
I can't answer your question but, I can tell you that mine is a steel string.
Mine has a pickguard which is attached to the body with small black screws.
I suspect that it may have been added later by someone or perhaps the factory added it to the design later in production.


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 04:19 AM

About old guitars:

I own a classical Spanish guitar, more than hundred years old. The winders are made from wood, standing out through a board at the head.
When I played last I used nylon strings which give a far better sound than steel strings.
But the non plus ultra are catgut strings which gave the most wonderful sound, but they were breaking too fast. So I had to give up this usage when it became too expensive.
Now I have the money but can't play any more due to a broken left wrist - alas!


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 10:00 PM

my grandparents just gave me a 30 year old castilla guitar to it works better totune ur guitar with a pitch pipe but it works any way


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Dec 07 - 03:40 PM

I have a 30 year-old Castilla acoustic, model CS-78, made in Korea, that I purchased new around 1978. It takes steel strings and has a pick guard. It's a basic beginner guitar. The body is smallish, but it has good bass note sound. The hardware isn't great; mine needs repair because it has loose parts that buzz. I don't want to invest the money in it because I don't know that it's worth it. I don't want to pay more for repair than it's worth.

I use this guitar when I want to take it with me to play someplace (like to the beach) but don't want to damage my Takamine.

It's the perfect instrument for a young teenager to learn on. That was why I bought it in the first place. :)


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Judy
Date: 05 May 08 - 12:05 AM

I have a Castilla guitar and I think the number inside is 08-90, can anyone give me any information on it? It may be C8-90.
Thanks


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Judy
Date: 18 May 08 - 11:32 AM

I was given a Castilla Guitar in 1980.
Model CS-56 can any guitar shop fix them?
One of the plastic nobs feel off and I'd like to give it to my nephews and grandnephew and grandnieces a working guitar since the schools have started canceling music programs. The kids rane from 7 to 7 months


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,fluffy
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 01:09 PM

i have a castillia guitar model cw25 is this worth anything or cheap one


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 02:59 PM

I'm not familiar with that particular brand of guitar.

I did some googling and found some information about Castilla guitars, but not enough to pin down the guitar in question because they apparently make a number of different models, including both steel-string guitars and nylon-string classics. And solid-body electrics.

Maybe some of this will help identify what type it is. These are close-up photos of a typical nylon-string classic guitar (courtesy of Elderly Instruments).

CLICKY.

Note particularly—the close-up photos of the headstock. Classics have a slotted headstock, although some steel-string guitars do also. The give-away are the parts the string winds around. On a nylon-string classic, the barrels are fairly large and are generally made of ivory, bone, or plastic. On a steel-string guitar, they are not quite as "fat" and are made of metal.

Then, look at the close-up photo of the bridge. This is a dead giveaway. On a classic, the nylon strings are tied to the bridge rather than slipped through holes in the bridge and held in place with bridge pins. It the guitar has this kind of tie-on bridge, then the guitar should absolutely not be strung with steel strings.

Some people are under the impression that the three bass strings on a classic are steel because they look like steel strings. But they actually have a nylon fiber core and are wrapped with fine silver (or "silver-ish") wire. The three treble strings are obviously nylon. On a steel-string guitar, the four lowest strings are wrapped (with a steel wire core) and the two treble strings are obviously bare steel wire.

If this is a nylon-string classic and it has steel strings on it, they should be replaced immediately, least the higher tension steel strings (two to two-and-a-half times the tension of nylon strings) warp the neck and/or soundboard or start pulling the guitar apart. A classic is not braced to take that kind of stress, whereas a guitar built for steel strings is more strongly braced.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: Songbob
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 04:21 PM

"The winders are made from wood, standing out through a board at the head."


That sounds like a solid headstock with friction pegs, which is often used on flamenco guitars. If the construction is even lighter than a classical guitar, and the action is low, it probably is a flamenco guitar.

And 100 years isn't THAT old for a guitar, but it's a good age, I will admit.

Bob


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 05:07 PM

You can actually still get a flamenco guitar with wooden friction pegs. Some flamenco purists think that any metal at all in a flamenco guitar dampens the tone, so they want the push-pegs to avoid the metal gears and such. I had a Domingo Esteso flamenco that I bought used (a friend had brought it back from Spain) back in the mid-1950s. Great sounding guitar, but it had friction pegs and it was an absolute bitch-kitty to tune. I didn't really use it that much for song fests or performances because of the tuning problem. I didn't want to subject audiences and friends to long sessions of cursing and swearing while I tried to get the bloody thing in tune.

A few years later, I ordered a flamenco guitar from Arcangel Fernandez in Madrid (hand-made to order). He asked me if I wanted friction pegs or geared pegs. I opted for the geared pegs. Looks exactly like THIS, except that mine has clear plastic tap-plates (golpeador). Mine is 1961, No. 135.

The "Arcangel" has a power and tone that is all one could want in such a guitar. And if the metal tuning machines inhibit the tone at all, it's certainly not noticeable!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Nov 09 - 06:17 PM

have a n CN11n castilla guitar made in japan any one have info on this?


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,mrjeff
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 12:49 PM

Man it sure is hard to find any info on these darn Castilla guitars.Hoping someone can help me out.I have two different steel strung acoustics made in Korea.The model numbers have me boogled.One of them is cs-9s the other is cs9s.Yes that is correct, the second number does not have a dash in it.The two guitars look nothing alike either.Man I just don't get it.
                            Jeff S.


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Songbob
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 01:34 PM

Mr. Jeff -- with the low price and chancy quality control on those mass-produced makes, it's no wonder the model numbers are practically the same and the specifications are far afield.

Castilla guitars are basic instruments, probably one or two steps below Samick, the maker of most Korean guitars. That is to say, Samick used to be the world's largest guitar factory, though some Chines place may now hold that title, and Samick made the bulk of any Korea-branded guitars, from Epiphone down to who knows what? They may well have made some or all of the Castillas, I don't know, but the price point and quality is/was below the ones Samick deigned to put their own name on.

Good luck with 'em.

Bob


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Jeff S.
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 02:41 PM

Thanks Bob, I just finnally found all that out just before I came back here.Another thing I found out,do not know how much truth there is in it.But supposedly at the beginning of the Castilla brand it was origonally made in Spain.But at some point aprox..in the 1950's they sold out to some large holding company which moved all the manufacturing to Asia.(signs of things to come for all industry 50 years later)ha ha.Not really funny.But anyway thanks alot for your input.
                     Thanks,Jeff S.


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Johnny
Date: 10 Jan 10 - 12:18 PM

I have a Castela Guitar that is steel string adjustable bridge with truss rod and Has lable on inside that says trump. I don't know much about this model, but I took the adjustable metal piece that holds the saddle and worked a buffulo bone at a slant so it rests completely on the sound bord top and tight up against the bridge and same replaced the nut with bone and the guitar sounds and plays wonderful with 1/8 at the 12 th fret. tightened the truss rod and neck is straight with room to lower action further at the saddle and at the nut. I don't want to lower it further as it may loose the beautiful sound some I am getting from it. Sweet guitar. I usually wind up putting them on Ebay after I play them for a while. I am always seeming to get low on cash and fix and sell. But this guitar suprised me. Looks like & or a T written under the Label Trump. I imagine its T for trump 210...T210. Any info is appreciated...seem like 70's not sure.


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,JD
Date: 27 Jan 10 - 05:17 PM

I have a wonderfull castilla guitar. full size w/steel string. bought new for me when I was 12 or 13. Been playing it all my life. beutifuul wood and sounds good. model Cs-9s.I am 47 yrs old now.


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Craig
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 10:30 AM

I have a Castalla CN6N classical nylon string guitar. It was given to me new for Christmas (1969) by my mother (God rest her soul). I still have it and play it daily. It was a very inexpensive guitar but it has a very nice sound. I have since purchased A Takamine and Taylor Steel string guitars but I enjoy the easy play and tone of the old nylon.

Keep the thing in the case and with proper humidy and temp.

Note: You should NEVER put steel strings on a nylon/Classical guitar. The steel string guitars have a truss rod to keep the neck at the correct angle and a reinforced bridge where the nylon/Classical guitar doesn't. A nylon/Classical guitar also has an all wood bridge where the strings wrap around it and if you put steels on it they will cut into the wood and pretty much ruin the guitar. Also the tuning keys are friction based and the steels pull too hard and it make proper tuning difficult.


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Mandy
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 02:42 PM

i have a castilla guitar that was given to me by someone. It is a model cn-400. i know that it is probably not worth much but does anyone know what it might be worth?


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Mar 10 - 12:50 PM

I have a 1974 Castila Flamenco and there is no money that would get it from me. Your guitar is what it is and you are the one one that puts a value on it. Not some price guide.


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Evelyn
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 01:22 AM

I just purchased a castilla guitar at a thrift store for $5.00 it's a CS 33 made in China 2F with a black & white picture of a lady playing an oval shape guitar inside of it. with steel string and screws in the bone knobs. I don't know much about guitars just looked antique. And i collect antique items. What year is it and is it classic or worth anything.


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,julie
Date: 12 Jun 10 - 06:49 PM

Hi I have 12 string castilla V 17 I know nothing about it except it makes beautiful music!!!


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,BENJAMIN
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 04:54 PM

I TOO HAVE A CASTILLA QUILITY NC-400 GOT IT FOR FREE IN REHAB..FROM STAFF MEMBER. ITS WORTH MORE THAN ANY DOLLAR SIGHN $$$ TO ME AND SOUNDS AWSOME!!!! NICE FIXER UPPER.


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Guest, Andy C
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 02:03 PM

I have a Castilla CN-40, I've owned it for 16 years now. It was my first guitar and at the base and neck the finish keeps cracking and the wood is coming unglued. I have sent it to shops for repair, and th repair lasts a few months, but after that...is there a frame like apparatus i can put on my guitar to keep it together? Or does anyone know how to get ahold of Castilla...if they're still around?


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Guest, Mary
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 06:12 PM

I was given a Castilla V17 in 1970's. It has 12 strings. Was going to give it to the church teen group, but wanted to know if it's worth anything. I have kept it in it's case most of this time. Should I sell it and buy more Guitar's for more teens or just donate this one? Thanks


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Sylvia Cunningham
Date: 16 Mar 11 - 01:30 PM

I have a castilla model C59D and it has doves on it. Is this worth anything?


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Ricky D
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 05:57 PM

Wattaya know? This Castillas are pretty popular..Mine is a CB80, pretty small and excellent for when you're in the move...


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,GUEST, Peter
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 03:52 PM

I have a Castilla Nylon/Classical, made in China, model number CN80. I think it was made in the 80's, but have no information on this guitar. Sounds good, given to me in 2008.


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Guest, Josh
Date: 26 May 11 - 10:13 AM

I know this may be to much to ask but could someone please make a website where you can search the values of a castilla guitar by the model numbers (and add a picture of the different guitars with the same model numbers) because my dad gave my brother a guitar long ago and he doesn't use it hes moved out and now I'm trying to learn guitar so he has had it like 20-40 years or so and the model number is CS-9S i believe it has a hyphen I'm to lazy to look right now :P but i hope someone does and I'll probably look at this thread again in a few days.


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Rob
Date: 03 Aug 11 - 09:32 AM

Can anyone tell me what the castilla model cn6n is worth and when it was made


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,JOEL
Date: 22 Sep 11 - 06:11 PM

I found my Castilla and the model appears to be F0-40. Used in the mid 70s and hasn't been touched since. Haven't been able to find anything on the model number. Made in Korea.


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,pat
Date: 19 Oct 11 - 05:27 PM

i have a castilla guitar with the model numbers fg3-3 i was wondering if anyone had any infoon it i cant find anything on it thanks


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Jen
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 10:48 PM

Hey, I have a Castilla, too. Mine was made in Taiwan. lol. Very nice sound from a comfortable guitar. : - )


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,DrGoat
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 11:23 PM

I've had a Castilla for about 35 yrs. and about a yr. ago, I carefully peeled of the Castilla label on the inside, and underneath it was a label "Ventura bruno   Model v-10". I know the guitar is at least 35 yrs old. Wondered if you all have had a similar deal.
Nice guitar, a tiny bit smaller than a full size. I like it.
Thanks


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST,Guest Rose
Date: 28 Sep 12 - 11:03 PM

I have a Castillo guitar model # CN4N made in korea can anyone help me find how much it's worth


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Oct 12 - 06:43 PM

cs1s here has anyone figured out these crazy model #'s? i think they sound like they are all great guitars and worth what they are. smell em don't sell em!


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Subject: RE: Castilla Guitar
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Apr 15 - 02:33 PM

I have cs-7s castilla made in Korea anyone interested make offer


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