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Song Challenge: Unauthorized Dams

Uncle_DaveO 20 Jun 05 - 01:31 PM
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Subject: Song Challenge: Unauthorized Dams
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 01:31 PM

I checked this one out at Snopes and it is True! I think it's well worth a few songs! Go to it, Mudcatters!


Subject: Environmental concerns

Read the whole thing. This is an actual letter sent to a man named Ryan DeVries by the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality, State of Michigan. This guy's response is hilarious, but read the State's letter before you get to the response letter

SUBJECT: DEQ File No.97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Montcalm County

Dear Mr. DeVries:

It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity:

Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond.

A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity. A review of the department's files shows that no permits have been issued. Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws, annotated.

The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the stream channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 2005.

Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure to comply with this request or any further unauthorized activity on the site may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action. We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter.
Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions.

Sincerely,

David L. Price, District Representative
Land and Water Management Division

** Here is the actual response sent back by Mr. DeVries: **
Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Montcalm County.

Dear Mr. Price,

Your certified letter dated 12/17/02 has been handed to me to respond to. I am the legal landowner but not the Contractor at 2088 Dagget, Pierson, Michigan. A couple of beavers are in the process of constructing and maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond.

While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise their dam project, I think they would be highly offended that you call their skillful use of natures building materials "debris." I would like to challenge your department to attempt to emulate their dam project any time and/or any place you choose.

I believe I can safely state there is no way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic.

As to your request, I do not think the beavers are aware that they must first fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity.

My first dam question to you is: (1) Are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers, or (2) do you require all beavers throughout this state to conform to said dam request? If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, through the Freedom of Information Act, I request completed copies of all those other applicable beaver dam permits that have been issued. Perhaps we will see if there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws, annotated.

I have several concerns. My first concern is; aren't the beavers entitled to legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and are unable to pay for said representation -- so the State will have to provide them with a dam lawyer. The Department's dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event, causing flooding, is proof that this is a natural occurrence, which the Department is required to protect. In other words, we should leave the Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than harassing them and calling their dam names.

If you want the stream "restored" to a dam free-flow condition please contact the beavers -- but if you are going to arrest them, they obviously did not pay any attention to your dam letter, they being unable to read English.

In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build their unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green and water flows downstream. They have more dam rights than I do to live and enjoy Spring Pond. If the Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Protection lives up to its name, it should protect the natural resources(Beavers) and the environment (Beavers' Dams).

So, as far as the beavers and I are concerned, this dam case can be referred for more elevated enforcement action right now. Why wait until 1/31/2005? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then and there will be no way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass them then.

In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention to a real environmental quality (health) problem in the area. It is the bears! Bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you should be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the beavers alone. If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step! (The bears are not careful where they dump!)
Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam office.

THANK YOU.

RYAN DEVRIES & THE DAM BEAVERS


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Subject: RE: Song Challenge: Unauthorized Dams
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 01:51 PM

This is not a true story, it's an urban legend (or hoax) that has been circulating around the internet for years.


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Subject: RE: Song Challenge: Unauthorized Dams
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 01:59 PM

Check Snopes. They say it's true.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Song Challenge: Unauthorized Dams
From: GUEST,bfdk
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 02:05 PM

LOL. But it's a dam good one ;-))


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Subject: RE: Song Challenge: Unauthorized Dams
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 02:12 PM

Funny, I saw one with precisely the same wording but different names in 1998.
Anyway, it would make a great song. I'll have a hack at it.


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Subject: RE: Song Challenge: Unauthorized Dams
From: Micca
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 02:45 PM

Oh Beaver spare that tree
touch not a single bough
in youth you could build a Dam
you need a Permit now

we'll only warn you once
we do this to give you pause
refer to Act 451
of the Michigan state laws

You can't build a debris dam
its plain for you to see
it contravenes the Act
sect. 101 to 113

So Beaver spare that tree
and dont pile up debris
your following Natures Plan?
that means dam all to me

After George Morris


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Subject: RE: Song Challenge: Unauthorized Dams
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 08:13 PM

Here's the Snopes article on the beaver tale.


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Subject: RE: Song Challenge: Unauthorized Dams
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 10:49 PM

A co-worker in the Seattle area reported that she had received a notice a few years previous from the Washington State Dept of Agriculture informing her that the "noxious weed, tansy" had been found growing in a small plot of pasture land she had acquired for her horses, and threatening "very large fines" if she did not immediately irradicate the weed.

While she was still attempting to figure out what to do about this situation, she received a notice from another Environmental office, probably the EPA, informing her that an endangered species of butterfly had been found on her property, that this endangered species required "tansy" for its survival, and that she was required, under the Federal Endangered Species Act to protect the "tansy" growing in her field, and to prevent any unusual intrusion into the habitat of her endangered butterflys. Failure to protect and maintain her "tansy" would result in criminal prosecution, massive fines and "other legal action." It was implied that seizure of the property was a possible consequence of any intrusion in the "butterfly habitat."

The occasion on which she related the story to me was, as I recall, the third consecutive year in which she had received essentially the same two notices from these two agencies. That was nearly ten years ago, but I'd bet she still gets the same two notices every year if she still has the pasture.

John


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Subject: RE: Song Challenge: Unauthorized Dams
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 12:47 AM

But that is rather different from the beavers.


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