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Susan A-R 22 Dec 98 - 09:30 PM
Barbara 22 Dec 98 - 10:56 PM
Sandy Paton 22 Dec 98 - 11:26 PM
Barbara 23 Dec 98 - 01:24 AM
Art 23 Dec 98 - 05:54 PM
Art 23 Dec 98 - 05:56 PM
Barbara 23 Dec 98 - 06:19 PM
Joe Offer 23 Dec 98 - 06:24 PM
23 Dec 98 - 06:29 PM
Joe Offer 23 Dec 98 - 06:42 PM
Barbara 23 Dec 98 - 07:13 PM
Susan A-R 23 Dec 98 - 10:08 PM
Joe Offer 24 Dec 98 - 12:38 AM
Steve Parkes 24 Dec 98 - 06:43 AM
Barbara 24 Dec 98 - 07:13 AM
Bob Schwarer 24 Dec 98 - 08:43 AM
Animaterra 24 Dec 98 - 09:00 AM
Liam's Brother 24 Dec 98 - 02:21 PM
Joe In Absentia Corrects the Song 24 Dec 98 - 02:25 PM
gargoyle 24 Dec 98 - 11:03 PM
Joe Offer 25 Dec 98 - 02:54 AM
Joe Offer 02 Jan 99 - 06:44 PM
Sandy Paton 03 Jan 99 - 05:22 PM
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Subject: A pig song
From: Susan A-R
Date: 22 Dec 98 - 09:30 PM

I heard Ann Mayo Muir sing this one (I think) It's about a pig who is not willing to accept his lot. The chorus is something like

What'll I be when I get older? You're bacon, butt and picnic shoulder All my sons and all my daughters are hocks and hams and tails and trotters

Anyone got the rest of it??


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Barbara
Date: 22 Dec 98 - 10:56 PM

It's called 'Tails and Trotters' by Judy Goodenough, and is on "And So We Will Yet" Bok/Trickett/Muir, is available from Folk Legacy, and if I get it first, I'll post the words, don't tell Sandy.
But I don't have it now; Santa, are you listening?
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 22 Dec 98 - 11:26 PM

Yes, Barbara. Santa is listening. Send me your address.


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Barbara
Date: 23 Dec 98 - 01:24 AM

Awww, Sandy, that's sweet of you, but I think my partner's bought it for me already. At least there was some mysterious message on the phone machine about something ordered that was now in, and he told me he'd tried to get it, but it was out of stock.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Art
Date: 23 Dec 98 - 05:54 PM

Out of STOCK!!!!

That's funny... ;-)


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Art
Date: 23 Dec 98 - 05:56 PM

That's got to be SANTY Paton


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Barbara
Date: 23 Dec 98 - 06:19 PM

Patontly obvious, Art.


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Dec 98 - 06:24 PM

OK, I give up waiting for Barbara. I'll post the lyrics in a few minutes.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From:
Date: 23 Dec 98 - 06:29 PM

Never Mind.

Art Roseanna-dana


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Subject: Lyr Add: TAILS AND TROTTERS (Judy Goodenough) ^^
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Dec 98 - 06:42 PM

TAILS AND TROTTERS
by Judy B. Goodenough, BMI
©1982, J.B. Goodenough, Fox Chapel, Pennsylvania
On the Bok/Muir/Tricket album "And So Will We Yet"


Little piggy hollered in the middle of the night,
"Tell me now, Mama, I wanna get it right.
What'll I be when I get big?"
"Hush," said his mama, "You're gonna be a pig.
"That's how it is when you get older,
"You're bacon, butt, and picnic shoulder.
"All my sons and all my daughters
"Are hocks and hams and tails and trotters."
"Oh, no," said the piggy, "That's mighty hard,
"There's more to me than loin and lard.
"I can walk and talk, I'm young and strong."
"Hush," said his mama, "Not for long."

"Oh, no," said the piggy, and he started to howl,
"There's more to me than cheek and jowl.
"I'm pink and pretty, I can sing and dance."
"Hush," said his mama, "You'll never get a chance."

"Oh, no," said the piggy, "I'll show you all."
He went under the fence and over the wall.
He ran and he ran till the moon went down;
He ran and he ran till he came to a town.

With a kink in his tail and a wink in his eye,
He put on a hat and he put on a tie;
He parted his hair, bought a diamond ring,
And nobody noticed anything.

"Oh, see," said the piggy, "I'm one of you."
And everyone said, "How true, how true."
He paid his money and he lived in style;
Sometimes he sang with half a smile:

He's a big boar now, he's executive pork,
And he eats his vittles with a knife and fork;
He often thinks of the lonesome tune
His mama sang by the light of the moon:

JRO ^^


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Barbara
Date: 23 Dec 98 - 07:13 PM

Hey, thanks Joe, saved my bacon. I don't think I'll C the D until Friday.


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Susan A-R
Date: 23 Dec 98 - 10:08 PM

Thanks Joe. I do remember that Ann changes the "I'm young and strong" lyric to "I can sing and dance." Folk process at work. I won't even touch all of those juicy porcine puns.

Happy Holidays

Susan


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Dec 98 - 12:38 AM

Well, no, Susan, I left out a whole darn verse. I corrected it above. thanks for pointing that out.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 24 Dec 98 - 06:43 AM

There ought to be a song about the Tamworth Two in fact there must be. Anyone know one?

Steve


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Barbara
Date: 24 Dec 98 - 07:13 AM

Steve, I heard Ann sing this in Portland a couple weeks ago, and she introduced it by telling the tale of the Tamworth two, and dedicating it to them. But I haven't heard a separate song ...yet.
Blessings,


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Bob Schwarer
Date: 24 Dec 98 - 08:43 AM

There's also a song about 4 wet pigs, 2 of which end up as pigs usually do. No time for lyrics; got to start my Christmas shopping.

Bob S.


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Animaterra
Date: 24 Dec 98 - 09:00 AM

A timely thread; my women's morris team is working out a brand-new dance to this very tune- look for it at NEFFA, those of y'all who will be there! Allison


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 24 Dec 98 - 02:21 PM

And then there is always...

In the year '29 when the weather was fine, I first took me way to the sweet fair in Trim
For to sell a fat swine it was me incline, she was neat, fat and fair and complete in each limb
This pig was as mild as a lamb or a child, you could whip it all over the world with a twig
And the truth for to tell, I sold it quite well, 3 Pound 10 was the price that I got for me pig.

Yuletide greetings from my farm to yours,
Dan Milner


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Joe In Absentia Corrects the Song
Date: 24 Dec 98 - 02:25 PM

Tails and Trotters
by Judy B. Goodenough, BMI
©1982, J.B. Goodenough, Fox Chapel, Pennsylvania
On the Bok/Muir/Tricket album "And So Will We Yet"
Aw, you're too late, Barbara or Alison. I got back online this morning and posted corrections above. Thanks for trying, though.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: gargoyle
Date: 24 Dec 98 - 11:03 PM

This PIG song has been a family favorite, it involves, SNORTS,(inner-reverse through the nose style), WHISTLES (sharp and quick) and BRRPPP's (through the lips- like a gasseous explosion) It is VERY vaguely along the the lines of "Charlie Fell Into the Bucket" a comedy tune from the turn of the century 1890-1910 and perhaps into the US Civil War years. ((Yes, my dearest, Mr. B.Seed...it is precisley the type of song that would come from MY family.))

There was an old man
Who had an old sow
Sas-O-Fer-Ral-Hu-Ray

Now this old sow
Had nine little pigs
SNORTigs BRRRPPTT igs WHISTLEigs
Nine little little pigs
Now this old sow
Had nine little pigs
Sas-O-Fer-Ral-Hu-Ray

The pigs they climbed
The garden wall
SNORTall BRRPTT all WHISTLEall
The pigs they climbed
The garden wall
Sas-O-Fer-Ral-Hu-Ray

Oh, Sue-zan, is a funny ol man
Oh, Sue-zan, is a funny ol man

^^


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Dec 98 - 02:54 AM

It's precisely the kind of song that would come from me, too, Gargoyle. Any chance you can come up with a tune?
Click on my name to e-mail me a MIDI or RealAudio or WAV if you can't post one here.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: Lyr/Tune Add: THE PIG AND THE INEBRIATE ^^
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Jan 99 - 06:44 PM

Here's a tune I found in a great book called Songs That Changed the World, edited by Wanda Willson Whitman in 1969. I found the book in the library, and now I'm trying to find somewhere to buy it. None of the online used-book services I know have it listed. Not sure how this particular song changed the world, but maybe it will serve as an inspiration to those who overindulged over the holidays. The lyrics (3 versions) are in the database, but not the tune.
-Joe Offer-

THE PIG AND THE INEBRIATE
(The Unsociable Pig)
(songwriter unknown)

It was early in December, as near as I remember
While walking down the street in tipsy pride,
No one was I disturbing
As I lay down on the curbing,
When a pig came up and lay down by my side.

As I lay there in the gutter, thinking thoughts I cannot utter,
A lady passing by was heard to say,
"You can tell a man who boozes
By the company he chooses,"
And the pig got up and slowly walked away.

MIDI file: PIGINE~1.MID

Timebase: 192

Name: The Pig and the Inebriate
Text: By Unknown
Key: G
TimeSig: 4/4 24 8
Start
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End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:The Pig and the Inebriate
M:4/4
Q:1/4=120
K:G
B,CDDDDDG|-GFEEEEEA|-AGFFFFFD|EFD6|B,CDDDDDG|
GFEEEEEA|AGFFFFFD|EFG11/2||


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 03 Jan 99 - 05:22 PM

For those of us who are computer-impaired, "The Pig and the Inebriate" was recorded by Ed McCurdy in 1956 on his Elektra album (EKL-108) titled Blood, Booze 'n Bones. That's where I learned it, anyway. I suspect that many of us "Old Folkers" still have tha album tucked away somewhere. Erik Darling provided banjo accompaniments.

Sandy


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Jan 99 - 10:53 PM

Ah, Sandy, at least we should be able to get you literate with ABC, so you can swap tunes with us. First thing to do is get a program like ABCMUS, so at least you can play the ABC tunes when you see them here. You highlight and copy the tune, open ABCMUS, and play. Pretty simple. Takes me five seconds to get a tune playing.
But I have to admit, using computers often involves doing things "the hard way" until you figure the darn thing out. What seems easy to me may be agony to you. What's easy for Max or Alan up at the top of the food chain, is impossible for me.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: A pig song
From: Barbara
Date: 07 Jan 99 - 03:46 AM

I've heard a music hall song similar to Gargoyle's that ended with "Suzanna's a foggy old sow(grunt)sow(bbbspt)sow(whistle) sow", and I have one here courtesy of BAZ that also has the sound effects. I'll dig it out soon, as soon as I get sorted out from 10 days away,
Blessings
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tails and Trotters (Judy B Goodenough)
From: GUEST,Steve Samuels
Date: 10 Aug 19 - 10:34 PM

I'm sorry for this correction almost 20 years after the question.

Joe Offer in his post Subject: Lyr Add: TAILS AND TROTTERS (Judy Goodenough) ^^ Date: 23 Dec 98 - 06:42 PM

quotes a line in the third verse as "He went under the fence and over the wall."

However in the album "And So We Will Yet" by Bok/Trickett/Muir, the order of "under" and "over" is reversed: "He went over the fence and under the wall."

This seems strange ("under" the wall?). However there is good evidence that this is what Goodenough wrote. Ann Mayo Muir and Gordon Bok (at least) both knew her very well-See Alan Seaburg's biography here - It's hard to believe that they would have gotten it wrong.

Further evidence, if more is needed: Goodenough's daughter Anne sings the Muir/Bok/Trickett version on You Tube here and reads the lyrics from a piece of paper.


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