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Chord Req: Still Searching - Little Sir Hugh chord

Muttley 27 Jun 05 - 11:11 PM
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Subject: Chord Req: Still Searching - Little Sir Hugh chords
From: Muttley
Date: 27 Jun 05 - 11:11 PM

Is there ANYONE out there with the chords to Little Sir Hugh?

I've tried a bewildering array of various websites, keying in a mind-numbing amount of variations on the search parameters and still come up blank.
The various Steeleye Span chords/lyrics sites were no help at all and a direct contact with Maddy Prior directed me to a friend who could supply my needs - provided I was prepared to hand over about 12 Pounds (that's about $25 Australian) to him to email me the result.

C'mon Mudcatters - I have enormous faith in the songsmiths gathered out there - can someone help me out here

Thanks Folks

Mutt


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Still Searching - Little Sir Hugh chord
From: Muttley
Date: 28 Jun 05 - 02:44 AM

Anyone?


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Still Searching - Little Sir Hugh chord
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 Jun 05 - 05:36 AM

Midi, abc, lyrics and notes here.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Still Searching - Little Sir Hugh chord
From: Muttley
Date: 28 Jun 05 - 09:54 AM

Thanks Countess: I tried the site but it is unfortunately the wrong song: Same premise, different singers / writers.

The song I'm after is that version sung by Steeleye Span.

I tried adapting it and I could make the 'Span' tune fit roughly over the "Lincoln" lyrics but when I tried taking the chords (VERY confusing notation) and adapting them - hopeless.

Unfortunately the ABI I acquired as a result of a motorcycle accident 8 years ago has rendered me incapable of working out chord progressions myself. If I have the correct ones and I know the tune I'm fine - but I need the chords WITH the lyrics to make it work.

If you know the version I'm after and know the chordfs - I'd be most grateful: but at least, you deserve a HUGE thanks for at least trying to help.

I tend to use lyrics / chords in combination as per the following:

Am                      G                  D       G       Am
Late last night when the squire came home enquirin' for his lady

etcetera!

By writing down songs this way I can read the lyrics and the chord changes TOGETHER: It's the way i have learned to adapt my damaged brain so I can play again - after the accident I had to re-learn everything: though I cannot read music, nor work out progressions, nor work out what chords go with what song even if I'm told "oh that song is in Em" doesn't help me I'm afraid - all that skill has been erased and can't be got back. Worse, I cannot remember lyrics and chords and tune all at the same time which is why I use the lyrics / chord combo depicted above.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Still Searching - Little Sir Hugh chord
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 Jun 05 - 05:18 PM

Little Sir Hugh of Lincoln (in all its multitudinous forms) is a very old ballad, Child #155. I gave Muttley that link because it contains very extensive notes which I hoped might lead him to exactly what he wanted. I haven't actually heard the Steeleye Span version but I imagine they (or more specifically Maddy Prior) mixed and matched bits of text from different variants (or even different songs altogether) as is her wont. My best memory of the song (and the best version I have ever heard) was Hedy West, over here long ago for a summer of festivals, stomping around my wooden living room floor rehearsing with her banjo, disturbing the neighbours (hurrah!) and musing about different locations she would be playing and whether it would be considered "anti-semitic". I tried to assure her that the song was "of its time" but it was, nevertheless, occasionally received badly.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Still Searching - Little Sir Hugh chord
From: Margaret V
Date: 28 Jun 05 - 09:05 PM

Muttley, unfortunately I only have this on vinyl and don't have a working turntable so it's been quite a while since I've had a good listen. I just played the sound clip on Amazon to fugire out the key and can give you my best version of the verses, but I can't remember exactly where they go on the chorus. Perhaps someone else will be able to help with that, or with fixing any wrong chords I've given based on a faulty memory.

The chord they start on is F# minor. I'm a simple guitar player, so I'm going to give you chords starting on E minor. You can transpose if you like or just throw the capo in the second fret if you want to play along with the record...

Am       Em    Am          Em   A maj          G
Four and twenty bonny bonny boys playing at the ball

Am    Em   C          Em    Amaj                B
Along came little Sir Hugh, he played with them all

   G                            D                  C
He kicked the ball very high, he kicked the ball so low

   G         D       Em    D          Em    D       Em
He kicked it over the castle wall where noone dared to go


Hope this is a bit helpful.

Margaret


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Still Searching - Little Sir Hugh chord
From: Margaret V
Date: 28 Jun 05 - 09:17 PM

Sorry, I should have previewed to see if the chords came out in the right spots and of course they didn't. I'll do it differently and put the chords in parentheses before the word on which the chord changes.


(Am) Four and (Em) twenty (Am) bonny bonny (Em) boys (A maj) playing at the (G) ball

                  
(Am) Along (Em) came (C) little Sir (Em) Hugh, (Amaj) he played with them (B) all

                        
He (G) kicked the ball very high, he (D) kicked the ball so (C) low


He (G) kicked it (D) over the (Em) castle (D) wall where (Em) noone
(D) dared to (Em) go


Hope this makes sense to you. Margaret


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Still Searching - Little Sir Hugh chord
From: Muttley
Date: 28 Jun 05 - 11:50 PM

Margaret: You are an absolute SAINT !!!

Thanks SO much - a box of chocolates will be in order if you wish a more tangible reward - though if you're not in Australia, they might be a little melted' by the time they get to you!

And thanks again to Diane (The Countess - interesting monicker; any story attached?) for her efforts, too. I'm sorry I could not do better with her advice.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Still Searching - Little Sir Hugh chord
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 29 Jun 05 - 02:34 AM

interesting monicker; any story attached?

Child #68: Young Hunting/Earl Richard. Somebody's bright idea that I should play the wronged wife of Earl Richard (who doesn't actually feature in any version) in a re-enactment. The Earl's floozie stabbed him and threw him down the deep drawer well (or alternatively the River Clyde) after he'd refused to come in saying, 'Nah, I'm going home to the wife'. The Countess became the narrator (in place of the traditional talking bird cos it's a bugger to get parrots to learn their lines properly). Oh, and Earl Richard ends up down the rubbish chute of the floozie's block of flats. Stagemanaging underwater candles was beyond us too . . .


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Still Searching - Little Sir Hugh chord
From: Margaret V
Date: 29 Jun 05 - 08:30 AM

Glad to be of help, Muttley. I'll settle for virtual chocolates, and savor each one! Margaret


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Still Searching - Little Sir Hugh chord
From: M.Ted
Date: 29 Jun 05 - 12:49 PM

Don't perform this song without mentioning that it was a popularly song connected to the medieval "Blood Libel" --the idea that Jews ritually murdered christian children and then drained their blood--it and similar stories were used to incite angry mobs to murder jews both in Europe, and, as justification for many of the most horrible atrocities that were committed against Jews during the Crusades.

Here is an article written by Katherine I. Rabinstein that is floating around in various places on the web:


Hugh or Little Hugh of Lincoln (AC)

Died (Friday) August 27, 1255. This Hugh of Lincoln is another of the several boys who were said at various times and places to have been martyred by the Jews, often during the Paschal season. "Little" Hugh's legend is enshrined in Chaucer's Prioress's Tale. Hugh was said to have been lured into the home of a Jew name Koppin (of Joppin), who scourged the little boy, crowned him with thorns, crucified him, and then threw his body into a well. The story continues that when Koppin and other Jews were arrested, Koppin confessed the crime, denounced his co-religionist, and explained that it was the Jewish custom to crucify a Christian child annually.

Some versions of the tale become outrageously gruesome. One reports that the child's nose and upper lip were cut off, some of his upper teeth broken, and after the crucifixion his side was pierced with a sword out of hatred for Christ.

According to the evidence presented, it seems more likely that the eight-year-old fell into a cesspit while chasing a ball and was discovered a month later by Jews gathered for the wedding of the daughter of a chief rabbi. Fearing that they would be unjustly charged, they tried to hide the body. It was found with the stomach ruptured (the gases of corruption may have caused the stomach to burst) and 93 Jews were arrested.

King Henry III conducted the trial concerning Hugh's death, which led to the execution of 19 Jews by hanging at Lincoln. (Another version says that they were dragged to death by horses.) The others were bailed out of prison by Franciscans who interceded for them and paid heavy fines. Miracles were reported when Hugh's body was recovered from the well. It should be noted that there is no evidence of any ritual killing of the type described (Benedictines, Delaney, Husenbeth, Shepperd)





Little Sir Hugh of Lincoln is not to be confused with Hugh of Lincoln, who, in addition to being one of the British Isles more remarkable Saints, was also a protector of the Jews, and intervened in a number of similar situations--unfortunately for the poor folks mentioned above, he died in 1200--

Check here for more on him(and to waste a lot of time)--Index of all the Saints


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Still Searching - Little Sir Hugh chord
From: GUEST,this site has the CORRECT chords!
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 10:27 AM

http://steeleye.freeservers.com/comch.htm


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Still Searching - Little Sir Hugh chord
From: Little Robyn
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 01:54 PM

Wow, that site has the words and chords for all the 17 recordings.
That's quite a resource!
Click here for songs from Steeleye Span

Robyn


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Still Searching - Little Sir Hugh chord
From: Taconicus
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 02:57 PM

This song is a blatant and classic Blood Libel song of Jew-hatred, so no wonder it's "occasionally received badly." With my American sensibilities I was shocked when I heard it sung with no explanation or preface at the Aberdeen folk club. I have no problem with having the song sung for its historical musical value, provided the singer gives an explanation beforehand explaining its antisemitic usage and its Blood Libel nature, lest it be regarded when heard as an accurate historical retelling of how some "Jew's wife" cruelly lured a child and then stabbed him through the heart "with her little penknife."


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