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Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble

Stewart 16 Jul 05 - 01:50 PM
Charley Noble 16 Jul 05 - 02:48 PM
Naemanson 17 Jul 05 - 07:23 AM
JennyO 17 Jul 05 - 07:32 AM
Deckman 17 Jul 05 - 09:45 AM
Charley Noble 17 Jul 05 - 11:09 AM
Franz S. 17 Jul 05 - 12:02 PM
Metchosin 17 Jul 05 - 12:15 PM
Charley Noble 17 Jul 05 - 08:14 PM
Naemanson 17 Jul 05 - 11:26 PM
Charley Noble 18 Jul 05 - 03:17 PM
Charley Noble 20 Jul 05 - 10:52 PM
Deckman 21 Jul 05 - 12:13 AM
Charley Noble 21 Jul 05 - 09:59 PM
Don Firth 22 Jul 05 - 03:46 PM
Charley Noble 22 Jul 05 - 03:59 PM
Charley Noble 26 Jul 05 - 08:37 PM
Deckman 26 Jul 05 - 08:43 PM
Don Firth 26 Jul 05 - 09:17 PM
Deckman 28 Jul 05 - 05:52 PM
Charley Noble 28 Jul 05 - 07:10 PM
frogprince 28 Jul 05 - 08:53 PM
Stewart 07 Aug 05 - 01:59 PM
Fidjit 07 Aug 05 - 03:57 PM
Stewart 08 Aug 05 - 11:38 PM
Stilly River Sage 09 Aug 05 - 02:39 PM
Charley Noble 09 Aug 05 - 10:51 PM
Deckman 11 Aug 05 - 06:26 PM
Charley Noble 11 Aug 05 - 08:40 PM
Deckman 11 Aug 05 - 09:53 PM
Charley Noble 12 Aug 05 - 12:20 PM
Stewart 12 Aug 05 - 01:38 PM
Charley Noble 12 Aug 05 - 05:00 PM
Charley Noble 15 Aug 05 - 07:38 AM
GUEST,The Racoon Bandits 15 Aug 05 - 10:31 AM
Deckman 15 Aug 05 - 11:55 PM
Franz S. 18 Aug 05 - 11:38 AM
GUEST,Charley Noble 19 Aug 05 - 07:43 PM
Deckman 19 Aug 05 - 07:53 PM
Deckman 20 Aug 05 - 11:43 AM
Don Firth 20 Aug 05 - 03:23 PM
Stewart 20 Aug 05 - 10:14 PM
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Stilly River Sage 21 Aug 05 - 03:12 PM
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Subject: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Stewart
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 01:50 PM

Charlie will be visiting Seattle for about a week in late August. I've arranged a house concert and song swap for him - see the announcement below.

CHARLIE IPCAR (aka Charley Noble) will give a house concert of sea songs and chanteys, followed by a pizza supper and song swap on Sunday, August 21, at 5 pm in the Broadview neighborhood (N Seattle). Suggested donation, $10. Charlie (http://home.gwi.net/~ipbar) is from Richmond, Maine, a founder of the Portland Folk Club, a performer at Mystic Seaport and with sea chantey group Roll & Go. He has also written many original songs and adapted sea poems of C. Fox Smith to music. Email Stewart for information and reservations.

Cheers, S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 02:48 PM

Thanks, Stew, for organizing this nautical get-together.

If you're not familar with what I sing, here's a link to my website: Click here!

I haven't been out to Seattle for over 10 years and I'm looking forward to swapping songs with some of the nautical singers I've met before there, as well as some folks I've met more recently in Portland-West. And there's a whole raft of folks I haven't met.

Seattle will be my jumping off place for a tour of the Pacific Northwest which will run up to the Vancouver, BC, area, on over to Victoria, and then back to Seattle, and home to Maine.
I probably will start a journal thread soon when I pin down a few more details.

Victoria, of course, was the base for Cicely Fox Smith' s explorations of the Pacific Northwest in the early 1900's. She's my favorite nautical poet and I'm hoping to find her initials carved into a piling on Victoria's Outer Wharf where she used to hang out in the evenings, fishing for black bass and chatting with the shipkeepers.

So, who's coming to the house concert/song swap besides Stew and myself?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Naemanson
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 07:23 AM

Dammmit Charley! We have GOT to coordinate better than this! I am going to Seattle but not until late October or November! It would have been great to recreate our truiumph at the Loaded Dog in Sydney!


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: JennyO
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 07:32 AM

Brett, it would be even better if you recreated it again in Sydney some time!

I'm afraid Seattle's a tad far for us to come on this occasion :-(

Jenny


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Deckman
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 09:45 AM

Stu,

Thanks muchly for hosting this house concert. Judy and I looking forward to hearing and meeting Charlie! CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 11:09 AM

Brett-

We're just warming up Seattle for you! Now it's up to you to practice your "fish catching" techniques for the Pikes Public Market. And be sure to review this chorus so you won't embarrass yourself at a music swap:

Dig a duck, dig a duck,
Dig a gooey duck
Dig a duck, dig a gooey duck,
Dig a duck a day.

Maybe I'll track down the Lady Washington and serenade her current crew with an "old" ballad. Anyone know where she hangs out? I was thinking that Gig Harbor would be a likely spot or maybe Port Townsend.

Bob-

I'm certainly looking forward to hearing you sing some songs.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Franz S.
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 12:02 PM

Mary and I will be there. But when I try to think of songs to swap my mind goes blank.   Well, I'm a hell of a good listener and can sing along on choruses.

I counld do the Old Settler again. Sang it at the Portland East Folk Club 15-20 years ago. But in Seattle it might get chased out. by Ivar's haters.

Franz


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Metchosin
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 12:15 PM

Looking forward to meeting you at the Bent Mast in Victoria too Charley. I'll see if I can rustle up my brother Russ to swap songs as well, but I'll just stick to choruses too.


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 08:14 PM

The Bent Mast is a pub in the James Bay neighborhood of Victoria, 512 Simcoe St., where there is a bi-weekly Nautical Song Circle which I'll be joining Saturday, August 27th. Things get started around 7:30 pm and run to 9:30 pm.

This is walking distance from where we'll be staying and it doesn't get any better than that!

Victoria is only a hop, skip, and a jump from Seattle so we could just contine Stew's house party, and sing all the way on the ferry!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Naemanson
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 11:26 PM

So, are you guys in Seattle going to be all worn out by the time I get there or can I meet some of you for some drinks and songs?


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 03:17 PM

The third place I'll be singing at is a house party in Steveston Village, now incorporated into Richmond, adjacent to Vancouver, BC. Dave McArthur is hosting that one on Thursday, August 25th. We'll be staying at the Steveston Hotel and visiting the nearby Britannia Shipyard on the South Arm of the Frazer River.

This is another historic site that C. Fox Smith visited, which she commemorated in her poem "Lumber": Click here and search for lyrics!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 10:52 PM

Refreshing!

Seems like the recent crashes have sunk this thread. I'd still like to hear if any other Mudcatters are planning to attend any of the three musical gatherings in SAeattle, Richmond, BC, or Victoria, BC.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Deckman
Date: 21 Jul 05 - 12:13 AM

I'm going to make sure that several other singer friends of mine know about this. Bob


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 21 Jul 05 - 09:59 PM

Bob-

Should I sing you my Coastguard song, "Swabbing Days are Gone", or just duck and run for cover?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 03:46 PM

Charlie, I'm gonna do my darndest to be there, too. It's a matter of wheelchair accessability at Stewart's house (which I've never been to), but it sounds like things will work out okay. Looking forward to meeting you and hearing you.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 03:59 PM

Don-

It will be good to see and hear from you as well.

The last time Judy and I were in Seattle we managed to hunt down a music party of the Seattle Folk Song Society held at someone's house. This was pre-Mudcat and tracking anything down that related to folk music in a new city was no easy task. I remember someone leading "The Wreck of the Lady Washington" at my request. I had heard it from Pint & Dale but wanted to know more about the story behind the song. I've since chatted with novelist James Nelson, who's now resident in Maine, and who played a role in getting this replica tall-ship built. I also spoke to the Lady's former bosun once when I met him aboard the HMS Rose.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 08:37 PM

Let's see, for the Seattle house concert/party so far we have Bob (Deckman) Nelson, Franz S., hopefully Don Firth, our host Stewart, and myself and JudyB. Anyone else planning to come?

At one point Genie was thinking of coming up from Portland-West and I believe Dan Roberts who coordinated the Wawona shanty sings is coming.

We'll be heading out to the Lunenburg Folk Harbour Festival in Nova Scotia soon and may be out of contact for a while. And who knows when Mudcat will be back up!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Deckman
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 08:43 PM

I will be extending several other invitations shortly ... assuming that MC is still alive! Bob


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 09:17 PM

Let's make that for sure. If the Lord be willin' and the creek don't rise, Barbara and I will be there.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Deckman
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 05:52 PM


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 07:10 PM

Don-

That's great! And I understand that Deckman is facillitating your entry.

This is going to be fun!

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: frogprince
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 08:53 PM

Grabbed at this thread, as we are bound for Seattle in a couple of days; but we'll be back home in Michigan by then. Curses, foiled again...


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Stewart
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 01:59 PM

So where are all those Seattle Mudcatters? So far I've got just Deckman and Don Firth. If the weather's good (and it has been great) we'll be out on the deck (house that is, not ship). After Charley's concert we'll have some pizza and then swap songs and jam until it gets too dark and the neighbors call the cops.

Cheers, S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Fidjit
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 03:57 PM

Break a leg Charlie. Too far for me


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Stewart
Date: 08 Aug 05 - 11:38 PM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 02:39 PM

I wish! Too far from Texas, though. Have a good time!


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 10:51 PM

Well, I've been off in Nova Scotia for a week enjoying the Lunenburg Folk Harbour Festival. Sure was a lot of good music to listen to and sing along with, and it was a great example of a collaborative local/regional festival.

How about you Mudcatters in Portland, Oregon? Seattle's not that far!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Deckman
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:26 PM

Charlie,

I thought I'd give you aheads up! It's only eleven days until your house concert @ Stewart's house. It's time for you to get your concertina out of of hock and start practising again! (BG).

I've sent reminders off to 18 of our friends ... Stu's house might get crowded. I know that Don and Barbara Firth and "Bride Judy" and I will be there.

I'm really looking forward to meeting and hearing you. I've heard such fine reports from Sandy, and Sinsull and Ranger1. And, the idea of trading some songs after your concert sounds like pure joy. If I can coax Don into bringing his guitar, as I will, we out to have a damned good excuse for being late for on Monday morning! CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 08:40 PM

Bob-

I don't dare try to go through airport security with a concertina in my backpack. No way! But if someone in Seattle has an Anglo concertina that plays in "G" I would be willing to give it a try.

The banjo is usually not a major problem. However, last time I took it to Australia the case brackets were sprung and if I hadn't strapped the case as well I'm sure the old Stewart would have flown the coop so to speak.

I'm thinking seriously of getting together with Franz and anyone else who's looking for adventure and renting a sailboat from the Wooden Boat Museum. Franz has never sailed successfully but I have a lot of experience, singing songs about sailing! Look ahead, look a-stern, look to weather, look a-lee! Sheet 'er home! Vast heaving!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Deckman
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 09:53 PM

Let's PM about that concertina. I'm sure we can get you one locally! Bob


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 12 Aug 05 - 12:20 PM

I was also wondering if anyone knew the whereabouts of Micki Perry, the composer of that fine ballad "The Wreck of the Lady Washington." I would very much like to meet her, and buy her an appropriate drink.

I will be leading one of my own ballads, "Captain Bailey's Mistake," which commemorates another bizarre nautical mishap that happened in Maine some 200 years ago. It would be nice if someone would respond with "Lady Washington."

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Stewart
Date: 12 Aug 05 - 01:38 PM

Hi Charley. Micki lives in the Tri-Cities area (Richland, Kennewick, and Pasco) in the southeastern corner of Washington. She helped found the Three Rivers Folklore Society there, which sponsors the Tumbleweed Music Festival over Labor Day Weekend. It's a great folk festival, and if you could arrange to be there you could probably meet her.

Looking forward to seeing you next week.

Cheers, S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 12 Aug 05 - 05:00 PM

Stewart-

It makes sense that she would live near Pasco, the little river town that the Lady Washington had left following their festival. If no one else leads the song, I'll give it a try!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 07:38 AM

It's out the door and here we come!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: GUEST,The Racoon Bandits
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 10:31 AM

hehehe

now we have all of that catfood to ourselves

silly little ledge

we'll get past that one in no time

or chew a hole in the door to get through

hehehe


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Deckman
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 11:55 PM

So ... how do you like our 80 degree Summer weather? We HATE this when it happens ... out of towners arrive, discover our beautiful mountains, our blue seas, our oceans, our forests, and then (damnit) there's NO RAIN. SHHHEEEUUUUHHHH! Next thing you know, the ferrinerrs wanna' move in! CHEERS, Bob (and welcome to seattle)


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Franz S.
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 11:38 AM

"Arriving dead-tired in mid-August
I found it enshrouded in fog
And covered all over with tourists
Thick as hair on the back of a dog"

But the view of Lake Union is beautiful in any weather (ever see a canoe with running lights?). And I must be careful, because my car sports a California license plate and I'm tired of saying plaintively, "But I was born here!"

Charley, I, and my father will be sailing the lake tomorrow afternoon, wind or no wind, and there remain only three days to the party at Stewart's. I'm looking forward to meeting him and Don.


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: GUEST,Charley Noble
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 07:43 PM

Well, I'm hanging out at Franz's father's apartment overlooking Lake Union after an arduous afternoon of sailing, neighborhood walking tours, and brew pub hunting. This is hard work! Ivar's sea food restaurant was another trial, having lunch there while we watched the boats running under the University Bridge and dined on smoked salmon, broiled oysters, and other accessories.

The sail out of the Wooden Boat Center was a success in that we didn't ram anything significant. They checked me out the previous day and passed me on the strength of a couple of sea shanties and my Roll & Go T-shirt. Fortunately there was very little wind so we managed to get our little sloop away from the float with a minimum of tramor. My crew included Franz, his wife Mary, and their father Herb. We noodled about for an hour, avoiding the sea planes landling and taking off, several kamakazi keyakes, and someone's multimillion dollar yatch.

Only in Seattle would you find a brewery marketing an amber ale labeled "Red Manace." We've got an assortment of oddly labeled brews for Stewart's Sunday House Concert for show and tell. Proably, everyone will be teae-totlers.

Stewart gave me a fine tour of greater Fremont the previous day. I have a much greater appreciation for public art than I previously had: Lenon, the missle, the troll, and the group waiting at the bus stop. One of the neatest places we stopped at was the History Project, which was a building stuffed with displays of neighborhood history with photo images and write-ups done by students. It's an amazing place with room for musicians to gather and sing as well. We went on to Dusty Strings, a high order music and instrument repair center, where I managed to get a replacement head for my old Stewart banjo.

Another find was Sea Ocean Book Berth, a highest order nautical book store where I found several interesting sea songs books, including one I didn't have of C. Fox Smith short stories. I recommend the place, 3534 Stone Way Lane. Tell Chris Flavell that Charley Noble sent you!

Sunday at 5 pm is Stewart's House Concert/Music jam. Be there for a very good time or be forced to hear about it for years from those who did attend.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Deckman
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 07:53 PM

Jeeze Charly ... You didn't mention the rain and the cold drizzel, and the damned fog! Rain, rain, rain! That's all it ever does in this soggy country. (I'll bet you didn't know that I'm one of the founding members of "LESSOR SEATTLE, INC.!") Bob


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Deckman
Date: 20 Aug 05 - 11:43 AM

You can accuse us Northwest singers of many things, but being teetotaleers ain't one of them! CHEERS, Bob


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Aug 05 - 03:23 PM

My favorite beer used to be Ballard Bitter, brewed by Red Hook. Then they went and changed it and tried to claim it was always an India Pale Ale. No way. Ballard Bitter was dark, bitey, and bitter! Grows hair on the chest.

The lovely and talented Nancy Quensé (who may be there tomorrow) recently introduced me to Moose Drool, a good, robust brown ale. Good stuff!

See ya tomorrow, Charlie!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Stewart
Date: 20 Aug 05 - 10:14 PM

Looking forward to seeing all of you tomorrow. Looks like it'll be another nice day (doesn't happen very often here!!) - highs in the upper 70s, maybe partly cloudy. We'll be out on the deck with Puget Sound and the Olympics in the background. After Charlie's one-hour concert set, starting at 5 pm, we'll have a bit to eat and then do a song swap and jam until it gets dark and/or the neighbors call the cops. If you can't come at 5, come later for the jamming.

Cheers, S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Deckman
Date: 20 Aug 05 - 11:19 PM

COPS!!! You didn't mention nuthin' 'bout no stinking COPS!!! SHHHEEEEUUUUHHHH!!!!


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Haruo
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 12:54 AM

I was thinking of trying to make it at least for the first part (have an obligation in the evening) but I don't see an address. "Broadview" is a bit broad.

PM me if you don't want it broadcast.

Haruo


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 03:12 PM

Geez, you're making me homesick for all of that rain and fog and public art. Have fun!


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Deckman
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 01:20 AM

I'm just home from a very fine afternoon and evening of music. The scene was perfect: a warm Seattle day, outside on Stu's deck, a pleasant gathering of like minded people.

Charlie's concert was SWELL!!! I loved his voice and presentation. Excellant diction. And the feelings and respect he holds for his music shines through. (that's not always the case, unfortunatly). And I loved his banjo style. So simple and clean, and perfect.

After some grand food, we all gathered on the deck again and then we started a song swap. It was much fun. I especially appreciated that Charlie took gentle charge and organized round robin style. That always helps as people know what to expect next.

And meeting Charlie's wife Judy was also a great treat. What matched pair they are.

All in all, one of the better evenings I've spent in some time. Thanks Charlie and Judy and Stu and Betty! CHEERS, Bob


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Stewart
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 12:33 PM

Thanks Bob for your review. It's all true. Charlie was a great singer, as was his wife Judy. We enjoyed all of their songs. And everyone else contributed well - it was one of those magical times when the music just flowed, thanks to everyone. The weather couldn't have been better and the food was plentiful and good. Now we have a big pile of empty beer bottles - we're going to have to dole them out in smaller numbers to the recycling so the neighbors don't get the wrong impression. Anyway, it was a great time, meeting old friends and new.

Cheers, S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Stewart
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 02:19 PM

Here are a couple of pictures from our house concert with Charlie.
CLICK HERE and HERE

Cheers, S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 02:36 PM

Stewart,

Nice photos! Send copies to Pene Azul and he'll post them as an event in the Members' photos pages.

SRS


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Subject: RE: Seattle House Concert - Charley Noble
From: Genie
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 11:54 PM

Yes, the house concert was superb -- as I expected, having heard Charley's songs when he visited Portland a few years back!   And Judy's sea songs from the female perspective were most appreciated -- especially the one about the 7 smelly female crewmates disguised as men, chasing down the guy who drowns. (I fear the story loses something in the paraphrasing.)

The Hendricksons' house and deck are lovely, as is the view of the Sound and, of course the assorted brews! (But, Don, where was the Moose Drool? I missed that! :-(

So glad your visit collided -- er, merged -- with my need to be in Seattle, Charley and Judy!

And good to see Deckman, Stewart, Don Firth and spice, as well as other Seattle folkies like Chris, Jerry, Mereid (sp?), etc., again.

Come back and visit us any time you can, Charley and Judy!

Genie

§;-D


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