BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: Tam the man
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 09:33 AM

What is Normal?

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 08:06 AM

these twats who say kill all muslims etc should get a grip on the facts

Are people really saying kill all muslims?

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: bobad
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 07:51 AM

dianavan

Where would you have the Israelis go?

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 07:51 AM

Religion is about as much rubbish as Muslims, or Jews, or Brits, Americans, French, Spanish, Russians, etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: s6k
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 07:33 AM

agreee with j0hn

and muslims are not rubbish, but religion is rubbish, theres too many people, british and otherwise, who think that all muslims are bad. no theyre not. Cat Stevens is Muslim - look what he has done for werld peace.

these twats who say kill all muslims etc should get a grip on the facts

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 04:37 AM

No, if you are willing to kill over that, you'll just find something in the place of religion. If any of you seriously believe in the equasion 'no religion = no war' you haven't a clue about the human race. The causes go far deeper.
What causes war is people are out for gain or revenge or any number of things.
People like that I say aren't truly religious but using it as a pretext. Remove that and they will find something else.

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 04:06 AM

Harpgirl is right. Once he adds "God willing" to his demands and threats, it's all down to religion. The human race will never progress till it stops killing itself and kills God.

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: dianavan
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 12:08 AM

harpgirl -

Zawahiri vowed that the U.S. and British people "will have no security until we have it and live it in Palestine and until their atheist armies pull out from the land of Prophet Mohammed."

From the Aljazeera videotape.

Thats not the same as trying to impose your religious ideals on others at all. It sounds to me it is just another way of saying 'Yanqui go home' so that they can continue to practice their religion within their own culture in their own land.

Lets not forget that it is America who is the aggressor in Iraq and Israel who is the 'new kid on the block."

Yes, I hate religious persecution and think it has no place in politics. Maybe if we can get past calling it a 'religious war', we can begin to understand what the terrorists are saying.

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Paul G.
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 11:52 PM

Religion is rubbish because if you can be persuaded that there is a supreme being who made all things and has a heaven for those who do what he/she wants, then you can believe anything - even believe that this supreme being wants you to kill people who do not believe what you believe.

This is your one life. You might not like it all that much but make the best of it. Get along with other people. Do not kill them. It is all we've got. There's nothing beyond, after you're dead.

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: NH Dave
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 11:38 PM

I don't know if Muslims are rubbish or not, but I do know it took three and a half years for moderate Muslims to declare a fatwah on the actions of their terroristic bretherin. Unfortunately that only came after and perhaps as a result of the bombings in London. I'll believe that they are not all homicidal maniacs when the denials of the ravings of the homicidal few are immediately denounced by their cooler thinking   coreligionists.

   What I do know is that at the rate they are immigrating and reproducing, they will soon become the majority in many of the European countries, and will be making the rules by which the rest of us will be governed.

   Dave

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 10:11 PM

Religion can be used for good or evil. What causes the wars is the different views on religion. Too many people believe that theirs is the only true religion and that every one else is wrong and must be put right.

I'd say that lack of tolerance is probably the cause of a lot of the violence that has plagued the human race.

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: harpgirl
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 09:45 PM

Why have religion in the first place? It's only ever caused death and destruction the world over.

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:50 PM

I wish I did have ideas that would be solutions to the problem.

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:47 PM

fatwas are NOT apologies- They are statements of religious law. The terrorists claim that they are acting according to Islamic law- the fatwa is a statement that they are not.

If I were a christian, and a group claiming to be acting according to the bible performed a terrorist act, such as bombing a clinic, I would certainly want the leaders of my religion to make a statement that the act was NOT according to the religion.

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:44 PM

Qoute= "I wish i did"


you wish you had waht?

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:43 PM

bearded bruce-are you an idiot?

I am currently wearing a blue jacket, do you feel it is neccasery for me to apologise to anyone who has ever been mugged by men wearing blue jackets?


lets assume you are a christian, if therewas a bombing or wahtever by christians, would you aplogise for it?

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:39 PM

I wish I did.

But the present tendency to keep looking for someone to blame- Israel, the US, Western Culture, etc. is not the way. There is blame for all parties. If the moderate Moslems would just make it known that the extremists are NOT a part of their religion, perhaps there would be less animosity towards them. The recent Fatwa was a good step- but it took how long? The fatwas against Rushdie were out before the book was published- but this is the first fatwa against terrorism...

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:31 PM

Please see my post on "How to end racism " thread.

too much moaning about muslims, pising me off.

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: bobad
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:28 PM

Any ideas bb?

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:26 PM

agreed. but rather than look to assign blame, let us look for a solution ( or solutions).

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: bobad
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:24 PM

There is a number of muslims who believe that all non muslims are rubbish as there is a number of non muslims who believe that all muslims are rubbish, these are the one's who cause all the trouble.

Subject: RE: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:21 PM

Actually, since most of the Moslems I know are caucasian, it is bigotry, not racism. And yes, there is too much- ANY is too much.

Subject: BS: Are Muslims Rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:19 PM

Anser= No.

THere is probly about 3 million muslims in uk, some of them are loonies, [but pobably less than 1 in a thousand!

most [almost all of them] are normal, hardworking people.

I spent last 16 years working for muslims, they normal folk, trying to make a livingf]!


too much racism about nowadays, lets calm it down and get on with each other.