A Planxty (Land of Shillelah)

Subject: A Planxty (Land of Shillelah)
From: pavane
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 10:16 AM

I came across this in the Bodleian Ballad library recently, and it raised a few questions

A Planxty (Land of Shillelah)

I though a Planxty was usually instrumental? Or is it just that the words have been lost?

Is there a song or tune of this name known? I couldn't find one.

Unfortunately, all three copies online are mostly illegible, although the words could probably be recovered by examination of the slips themselves.

Subject: RE: A Planxty (Land of Shillelah)
From: pavane
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 10:18 AM

Note that you have to scroll right to find it!

Subject: RE: A Planxty (Land of Shillelah)
From: pavane
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 10:21 AM

Well, actually there IS a song of this name, but it doesn't seem related.

Subject: RE: A Planxty (Land of Shillelah)
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 03:19 PM

I wanted to see whether or not this song was similar to the one about "Farewell to old Ireland, the land of shellelagh and shamrock" (which has been recorded by Andy Irvine with the group Planxty) but the link brought me to a song called "Pizarro"?

Subject: RE: A Planxty (Land of Shillelah)
From: pavane
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 05:41 PM

Guest, as I said, you have to scroll right. Pizarro is another song on the same image.

Subject: RE: A Planxty (Land of Shillelah)
From: Paul Burke
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 04:16 AM

I believe Carolan's planxties originally carried words, usually praise for the patron, most of which are perhaps fortunately now lost.

This text looks to be 18th century: "Johnfon", "liv'd" etc. There was a revival of interest in harping and Carolan's works at the tail end of the 18th century, particularly Edward Bunting's harp festival in 1792. I wonder if this text could date from then?

Subject: RE: A Planxty (Land of Shillelah)
From: pavane
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 07:40 AM

If you need the full text, an emailed request to the Bodleian library may get them to visually inspect and transcribe what they can from the three copies.