BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish

Subject: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Torctgyd
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 10:11 AM

Well they never made me laugh!

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 10:19 AM

I'd suspect that you just have not yet had such a bad day that the Stooges are just right, and when you do-- it will have to be the older episodes.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 10:26 AM

Too damn bad Tortctgyd!    They made many others laugh, including myself.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 10:28 AM

Why, you insensitive brute! The fact is, the 3 Stooges were so brilliant that, that...well, the only thing in humorous entertainment that clearly surpasses them is William Shatner!

And maybe George Bush when he addresses the troops...

Other than that, The 3 Stooges are simply untouchable, in my opinion.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 10:44 AM

Uggh. Comeon Little Hawk, you had to ruin a thread about the Stooges by mentioning an even bigger stooge?

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: MMario
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 10:48 AM

This thread is HERESY of the worst sort. Where's the boiling oil? Where are the racks? We cannot let this go un-remarked!

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: bobad
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 10:53 AM

A two finger poke in the eye and a couple of noogies for you Torctgyd, nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: gnu
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 10:58 AM

A heck of a lot better than some of the violence and inane crap that kids are watching nowadays.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 11:02 AM

Amen to that!

Besides, Moe had a haircut that rocked! And Larry looked a lot like my Grandmother when she was having a fit about something.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: MMario
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 11:04 AM

how true - the stooges were quality violence and inane crap.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Torctgyd
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 11:04 AM

Still don't laugh! Opinion not changed

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 11:09 AM

We aren't trying to change your opinion Torctgyd. It is not important to our enjoyment of the quality work of the Stooges.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 11:19 AM

Ha! Your opinion is superfluous when placed alongside the magnificence that was Stoogedom. Have you seen the episode where they are demolishing an office and attempting to remove a stubborn phone line from the wall (said phone line still being attached to a live phone in the adjoining office, which is in use at the time)?

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 12:42 PM

They along with Francis the Talking Mule, Flash Gordon and Tom Mix were the very stuff of my ABC Minors Saturday morning 6d childhood. Tread softly Torctgyd, for you tread on my dreams of childhood.
G..

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: number 6
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 12:59 PM

They made me laff ... they were great!

and yes ... this thread is heresay and we cannot let it go un-remarked.

God Bless Larry, Curly, Moe and Shemp.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: radriano
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 01:22 PM

Keep in mind when the Stooges came on the scene. There was a major depression going on and their antics were so outrageous that they made people laugh in spite of their situation.

The earlier shorts with Curly were the best but some of the very earliest with Shemp were also good.

While we're at it I'd like to point out that although I watched at lot of the Stooges as a kid I never once had the urge to hit someone with a hammer in real life. Well, I did have the urge with some people ... we won't go there.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: PoppaGator
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 01:23 PM

I never liked 'em nearly as much as Our Gang (later retitled "The Little Rascals") or Laurel & Hardy.

When I was a teenager, a widespread theory contended that all guys dug the Stooges, all girls didn't. Made me have doubts about my masculinity, but I still couldn't transform myself into an enthusiastic Stooge-ista.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 01:26 PM

Guys preferred the Stooges, for sure. The Little Rascals were great!

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: number 6
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 01:27 PM

Good point radriano ... I watched a lot of the Stooges and Popeye when I was a kid ... and I can proudly say I have never hit anyone in my life ... but like you there have been times I certainly felt like it.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: MMario
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 01:30 PM

gee- do you think it was because we could distinguish between fantasy and real life?

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: number 6
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 01:33 PM

Of course ... but there are/were parents, especially when my son was young, who thought those programs were a bad influence ... I have been critized for letting my sone watch them.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: radriano
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 01:37 PM

Right MMario.

So why is there the current uproar about violent video games causing kids to be violent? To be fair, I'll have to admit that I've refused to buy certain games because of the basic premise. Like the one where the main character is a hitman and you get points for killing police.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: MMario
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 01:44 PM

3 stooges were ~obviously~ unreal - I remember wondering mainly how they managed to do the various stunts without getting hurt. I do think the trend for "realism" in video games, etc is detrimental to kids being able to distinguish between reality and fantasy ; so also is the fact that they spend far MORE time immersed in it then even the most TV addicted kids did in the 50's, 60's, 70's, and even the 80's.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 01:49 PM

The difference between violence and realism is important for comedy. If you've watched any silent films, you often see car wrecks that are added for comedic effect. When sound came in you could not use a car wreck for the same effect because the noise made it too real.   The Stooges and cartoon violence will not hurt anyone.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: GUEST,Pseudolus at Work
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 01:59 PM

I loved the three stooges, George, Colin and Dick.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Cluin
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 02:25 PM

Sorry, but the 3 Stooges were the further thing from rubbish. There's the old observation that, generally, men think the Stooges were great and women think they were crap. I've seen many women laughing at the old shorts though.

I saw a episode once where Larry did a bellyflop off a high stepladder onto a hard floor. You try that one. they did their own stunts; the shorts had a very small budget---no stunt men.

Bit o' Trivia: It was Moe's satirical depiction of Hitler that was the first thing to come out of Hollywood to lampoon the dictator, even before Chaplin's film. So Moe Howard was on Hitler's Death List. Before that, Hollywood was too dependent on the European market to risk pissing anybody off over there.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: M.Ted
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 03:07 PM

As to fake, well, the famous "stooge slap" was a real slap--In his autobiography,Mousie Garner, who continued as a Stooge with Ted Healy when Howard/Fine/Howard went to Hollywood talked about the technique for rolling with the slap, and what it was like if you didn't see it coming--

Mousie was also a great comic piano player, and worked with Spike Jones---he was asked to take Curly's place in the movies but Jones wouldn't let him break his contract--he died this year, and was the last Stooge to go--

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 03:23 PM

My mom wouldn't let us watch the stooges when we were kids (a family of 3 boys). However, when her father came to visit, he liked to watch the stooges, so we could watch as long as grandpa was visiting. Later I came to appreciate the finer nuances of the stooges. I also dated someone who liked to watch the stooges with me. A great time, indeed.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 04:59 PM

My will probably kill me for repeating this story. She once told me that when she was a little girl, her and her friends would pretend they were married to the Three Stooges.   She always chose to be Mrs. Moe.   I've never been sure how to react to that.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 05:04 PM

I would just try not to think about it too often, Ron... ;-)

Mind you, Mrs Larry or Mrs Curly would be pretty scary too!

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: radriano
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 05:36 PM

Cluin, thanks for the link to that news story.

Ron, are you aware that Curly was quite the ladies man and was married six or seven times? As for chosing Moe, well, he was the one always in charge, wasn't he?

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Cluin
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 05:40 PM

Moe was known for having an incredible sense of accuracy. In all the years of eye-poking, Moe never once got anybody right in the eye, though he got close enough to make it look convincing.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 05:49 PM

It wasn't just the slapping and hitting with hammers that was so funny, they had rubber faces and great dialogue, excellent timing and reactions, and Moe had a list of nicknames for the other two 'boys' that split my sides every time he used them. Not laugh at The Stooges?? Gotta be a problem child.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Cluin
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 06:09 PM

Larry was a classically trained violinist, sidetracked by ragtime. An acid burn when he was 4 nearly caused amputation and later physical therapy led to a brief boxing career as a lightweight. He won his only pro fight under the name "Kid Roth". Moe and then-boss Ted Healy 'discovered" Larry performing with fiddle and dancing, kicking his heels up with his ass an inch from the floor and decided to ask him to join the act as a Stooge. They offered him $90 per week with a 10 dollar bonus if he'd give up the violin (according to Moe). When they went backstage to talk with him, he was just coming from a shower with his curly hair all astray. That's where his look came from.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: John O'L
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 06:42 PM

I first enjoyed the Stooges at the theatre as a kid.

Then as a teenager all my mates would congregate at someone's house on a Sunday arvo and watch the Stooges on TV.

Now I am enjoying them again because my son gets a big bang out of the videos. (Interestingly, my daughter isn't that much taken with them.)

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Cluin
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 07:24 PM

Shemp was hung like a mule.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 07:25 PM

No I can't raise a smile with the Stooges, but Oliver Hardy....best tonic in the world!

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 07:30 PM

Charlie Chaplin is great too.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 07:31 PM

I love Laurel and Hardy too, but it is apples and oranges.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Cluin
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 07:32 PM

HeeeeyyAaaaaaabbot!

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 08:31 PM

Stan and Ollie had a beautiful chemistry stemming from their personal friendship. These were two men who sincerely cared for each other as friends and it came through in every two reeler they did. I think the best story I know is that even years after they had quit performing and Ollie had passed on, Stan Laurel still wrote L&H material all the time.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 08:42 PM

Who was the other guy who did a bunch of slapstick comedy films in the 30's and 40's? Not Chaplain...the other guy. I saw one where he was almost falling off a skyscraper, and a hapless black bellhop in uniform was trying to tell people, "Dey's a man hangin' on de side o' de buildin'...", but no one would listen to him.

(Blacks were depicted in a rather different manner in those days...)

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 08:58 PM

Harold Lloyd

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 08:59 PM

Yes! Harold Lloyd. Thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: jaze
Date: 20 Aug 05 - 08:18 AM

How would you know that, Cluin?

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: GUEST,DB
Date: 20 Aug 05 - 03:31 PM

Some humour dates and some doesn't. I've seen so little of the work of the 3 Stooges that I couldn't tell you whether they were rubbish or not. The Marx brothers, on the other hand, leave me cold, but that bit in Laurel & Hardy films where Stan Laurel's face crumples and he either bursts into tears, or looks like he's about to, is just ... priceless ... and wonderful - and cracks me up every time!

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 20 Aug 05 - 11:48 PM

"Give me two tens for a five"

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: GUEST,Dale
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 02:25 AM

Eye pokes were big when I was a kid, but we were all well trained at the lightning fast defensive move, and I have to report that no children were ever hurt while practicing these or any of the other Martial Arts of Stoogedom.

Side track to a side track above ~~ I watch Harold Lloyd movies just to see one of my favorites, Jobyna Ralston.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: GUEST,Dusty Ray Lehn
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 02:29 AM

Number 6 Shame on you for leaving out Joe. He did try hard. Lol

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 04:08 AM

How can anybody, in this the Seinfeld era, have the gall to initiate such a thread title?

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 09:09 PM

If you have ever watched Mel Gibson movies, you may have noticed the use of 3 Stooges clips on the TVs (and his use of some of their material!). I have heard that he is working on a project to tell the real story of their life.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 09:49 PM

Uh, I think the Seinfeld era ended.

Mel Gibson already produced the movie. It was a rather decent TV movie about that aired a few years ago.   Michael Chiklis did a superb Curly.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 10:16 PM

I never found the Stooges funny. Now, The Marx Brothers on the other hand...

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: GUEST,Murray on Salt Spring
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 11:42 PM

Dale (and others)- you were lucky with the eye-popping. I read (somewhere) about a boy who blinded his brother, and sobbed "It didn't hurt when the Three Stooges did it."

Still, I have fond memories of a dinner party where one squeezes on his (what? it's a flaky pastry thing filled with cream or something) - squirts another diner, who retaliates, and the battle is on. Does anyone remember this?

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 11:51 PM

I somehow could not get it with the Marx Brothers. For one thing, I had the distinct impression that Groucho was most likely one of the most unpleasant @$$holes that ever lived...and this seemed to interfere with my enjoyment of him as a comedian. I always had that problem with Frank Sinatra too (although he didn't do comedy).

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: number 6
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 11:54 PM

The Marx Brothers were brilliant !!

What the hell is Frank Sinatra being mentioned in this thread LH ?? The guy is about as funny as a ruby cufflink.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 01:19 AM

Did you say RUBY cufflink?    Smirk, chuckle, GUFFAW!

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 08:17 AM

Ron, any more info on the TV movie? I'm not aware of it having reached Australia. My informant seemed to think that the project was ongoing, and that the TV movie may have been just a cheap tryout.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 08:52 AM

I mentioned Sinatra merely as an aside to the fact that I get the impression that Grouch Marx was an outrageous asshole. I feel the same about Sinatra. Do I need to explain that further? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 09:19 AM

As far as I know, the TV movie was the only project.   I'm not sure why he would do another film about them after creating this one.   It was better than most made-for-TV flicks because of a decent cast and a good script.

I'm not sure why everyone is comparing apples and oranges in this thread.   The Marx Brothers, Laurel & Hardy, and the Stooges all have their audience. Reading some of the remarks makes it seem like we have to choose one over the other.   

The one problem I have with the Marx Brothers is that they made more than their share of bad films. A handful of gems, and a pile of trash. I guess that is the problem with most comedy teams.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: M.Ted
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 10:37 PM

Ron has hit on a sad truth, and that is that even the greatest comedians    do mostly bad movies. Martin and Lewis, who could be really, really, funny, never made a good movie--and Peter Sellers was only good thing in most of his movies--The Marx Brothers did a lot better than most, and WC Fields made a number of great movies--Woody Allen probably has done more really funny movies than anyone else, but his personal life spoils them for me--

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: robomatic
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 11:04 PM

I won't disagree with those who declare the greatness of the stooges. But I was a Marx Brothers fan first last and always. I'll never forgot possibly my first Marx Bros. Movie: A Night At the Opera seen in London with hundreds of hysterical Brits.

"Why's he crying"

"He didn't know there was no Sanity Clause!"

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 09:17 AM

It must be remembered that comedians of this ilk (it's that word again!) learned their comedic skills before movies were ever thought of, on the stage in live performances, sort of like folk msusos... :-)

Groucho had a good radio career, he was a fast wit with words in a live situation.

Also many comedians of this period made a living for 30 years with about 20 mins of material: along came a visual medium and sucked their life work away in one go, so they had to keep on making things up without the ability to hone it over years.

Very few live comedians were able to make a successful transition to the movies.

The best movie Woddy Allen ever made was that thing where he was an ant...

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: kendall
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 03:32 PM

I never saw tv until I was 19. By then I had grown up.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 04:07 PM

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Susu's Hubby
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 05:06 PM

niAGRA falls!


Slowly I turn....




Hubby

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 08:14 PM

Ah - haven't seen that for years Hubby!


S.l.o.w.l.y I turned...

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Cluin
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 08:16 PM

Step... by... step...

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: JennyO
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 10:39 AM

...inch by inch....

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: MMario
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 10:48 AM

How 'bout a llama?

 
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Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: MMario
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 10:52 AM

Sorry - wrong thread. that was suppossed to be LTS's 222'nd post prize

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: JennyO
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 12:00 PM

Nice llama anyway.

Now where were we?

......inch.......by.......inch........

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: Cluin
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 04:50 PM

Yabbitababbitamanwhoruinedmylife

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 07:22 PM

...row by row, gonna make this garden grow....

Subject: RE: BS: 3 Stooges were rubbish
From: *daylia*
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 07:48 PM

Awesome, MMario! How bout a camel two?