Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: G-Force
Date: 15 Jan 19 - 10:28 AM

Confess I didn't read the original part of this thread so, at the possible risk of repetition, it would probably be "you're sitting in my seat and you've just pinched my song!"

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: keberoxu
Date: 12 Jan 19 - 04:19 PM

I wouldn't dream of arguing about
the quality of the company in Hillsborough, North Carolina --
seeing as how it is much better company than I keep normally.

No, it's the weather I feel uneasy about.
All that wintry weather at that altitude, the freezing rain and ice.
I don't even know what it's like in the summer.

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Jos
Date: 12 Jan 19 - 05:35 AM

The thread has been going, on and off, for twenty years, but seems to have moved downstairs nearly six years ago. It does contain song words now and then, as well as sensible suggestions for accommodation for older/frailer folkies (if we accept that it is impractical for us all to be in the same place), so there is a good case for moving it back up.

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 12 Jan 19 - 04:24 AM

Why down below? This thread is about getting together and staying together for music, song and dance.

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Jos
Date: 11 Jan 19 - 04:19 PM

There's no way we can all retire to North Carolina (someone might start panicking and try to build a wall right round Hillsborough just in case we started making trouble ...)
It'll just have to be a virtual retirement home next door to the Mudcat Recovery Ward.

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: keberoxu
Date: 11 Jan 19 - 02:59 PM

Now, what is all this
about Hillsborough, North Carolina?

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Helen
Date: 08 Jan 19 - 05:59 PM

Oops. I didn't realise that this thread had been transported down to the Breeze Shooting (BS) section. That's why I said "Try again".

I must be getting old.

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Helen
Date: 08 Jan 19 - 05:37 PM

Try again.

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Helen
Date: 08 Jan 19 - 05:04 PM

I'm re-reading an old thread that I started, and I also put a link to it in the current thread about our Amos and his medical downs and ups.

I just realised that I started this thread 20 years and one week ago. Old threads never die, they just get stronger and stronger.

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 01 Mar 14 - 11:02 AM

Love it. Great images : )

Actually just checked out a place yesterday. 14 bedrooms. This one's not fit for anything, too much work needed, but I'm dreaming. Lots of ideas percolating.

Dani

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: GUEST,Little Robyn
Date: 28 Feb 14 - 10:25 PM

Many years ago I posted a song that covers this exact idea, but I can't find it now so here it is again. It was written by 3 NZ folk on their way home from a folk festival. The tune is The Apprentice Song - Come on lad and bring your toolbag.......
Robyn


Old Folkie's Home          Merton, Hubble & Birnie

Come on Folkies, bring your music,
Leave the suburbs to your kids.
Here's a home for your retirement,
You can jam all day instead.
Keep your eyes on the older folkies,
They're the ones who know their stuff.
One day you will play like they do,
If you stay here long enough!

Come on Folkies, bring your songbooks,
Just in case your memory fades.
Bring your CDs, tapes and records (& mini discs and DVDs)
And be sure they will be played.
Never mind if the volume's fading,
Hearing aids are all the rage.
We'll still party to the small ones,
Celebrate our growing age.

Wake up dear, it's time to party,
Here's the gear to change your drip.
Fill the damn thing up with whiskey
And we'll have a groovey trip.
Nearly time for this evening's ceilidh,
Are your wheelchair's brakes alright?
Don't want any nasty crashes,
No more skid marks, like last night.

Rediscover your libido
when you lose the stress and strain.
Double rooms are there for sharing,
Lots of time for fun and games.
People say 'Life begins at 40'
Here you'll see the living proof.
Practise makes your playing polished,
Let us pity callow youth.

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 28 Feb 14 - 07:52 PM

Still not quite old enough, but still very interested, in smack-dab-mid-North Carolina.

Dani

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Feb 14 - 04:33 PM

(Bittersweet that we have already lost some of the interested Mudcatters who posted here. Let's get crackin'.)

Seeing as how some folks want seasons with bearable winters and tol'able summers while others prefer year 'round summer weather while still others don't specify climate particulars- they just want it close to where they already live - it seems that Mudcat Manor Franchises are the only way to go.

Me, I am living in Alaska and loving it - I love the clear air, the pristine waters and the rugged people- but I could be happily persuaded that the mountains of Tennessee or coastal northern Florida or the red hills of New Mexico would be a mighty fine thing. Any progress on the (various) fronts?

Since most of us would/will be living on fixed incomes, an area where land is cheap and the taxes are low seems essential. Alaska is definitely not on that list nor are California or Oregon or Washington state. But Florida and Michigan and a good many others are.

Yesterday I watched a TV documentary about a woman who is restoring, house by house, her home town of Detroit.

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: GUEST,Chris White
Date: 28 Feb 14 - 12:39 PM

I've long had a movie script in my head about old retired musicians buying the hospital that they're already residents of, turn it into a retired musicians home, and then *give lessons* and workshops to support the place... (The movie even has a small speech by Wilford Brimley!)

I'll explain the inspiration later

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Claire M
Date: 11 Jan 13 - 02:30 PM

Hiya,

Friendship is very important. If staff can't – or in the worst-case scenario, won't – give people the right medical support then it's even more so. I've been in some shockingly bad places, & while we were waiting for staff who took about 3hrs to come to us we all sat around making up songs & talking about music.

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 10 Jan 13 - 11:11 AM

Can't open it in the UK. Try sitting outside for a singaround and you'll either freeze or drown (according to the season).

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: GUEST,Seonaid
Date: 09 Jan 13 - 05:28 PM

Such a community needs good planning and steady guidance, but when it works, it's wonderful -- as at the co-operative dormitory I experienced at university.
What with longer lives and fewer cohesive extended families these days, like-minded elders could well form their own best support systems. (Check out the historical Beguines, or the modern film-based retirement complex in Southern California. Of course, actors have more money....)
Still, this idea could be just the ticket for warm gathering-in, and a terrific vehicle for sharing-out. I love the idea of residence groups holding music circles, workshops, classes and even festivals!
I hope to retire soon, and I'd prefer finding just such a setup.
Rock on, fellow folk geezers!

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Claire M
Date: 09 Jan 13 - 03:40 PM

Hiya,

I can look at this from both sides.

I live in a smaller version of one for younger adults. I'm told I make it interesting because my music sounds like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ldQggHj78I

Everyone does their own thing, & whether it is any good or not depends who's on shift. It's close to my parents so they can visit me/I can visit them, but I thought the place would be better than it actually is & for the most part I feel let down, in spite of being taken to see Maddy Prior in the 2nd week of moving in (her voice has always helped with any physical distress I might be in)

I stayed in several homes when looking for a suitable place, however bad they were, & I always met really interesting people in them. I've always said there needs to be care homes set up for music tastes rather than needs.

How about a blues retirement home ??

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Susan of DT
Date: 09 Jan 13 - 07:22 AM

We are not all going to end up in the same place. We could select several existing retirement communities - Dick and I are starting to look at some - that already have the accommodations, medical facilities, etc. and have several folky people/couples move into the same ones. We are looking at Continuing Care Retirement Communities (they offer independent living, assisted living, nursing care, and memory care at one site) in NJ, PA, and MD. These places, which offer medical care for life, are not cheap. We are looking around now, but don't intend to move this year, but probably in the next few years (we are 65 and 83). Does anyone want to join us in this search and keep up with which communities look good to us?

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Semofolkie
Date: 09 Jan 13 - 12:17 AM

Shouldn't we retire in coffee shops?

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 08 Jan 13 - 09:22 PM

Janie, I vote we stay put and just pull them in one by one : )

Dani

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Melissa
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 08:43 PM

Hospitals have more rooms than just the ones for overnight patients, Sandra..lots of offices, labs, lobby, kitchen, etc. Twelve sounds like a fairly big group on a project that's not likely to grow legs!

Janie, Missouri..not north enough to be miserably winterish, not south enough to be full of humidity and sweat.

If it's anywhere further away, I won't be able to come visit so I cast a vote for Near Here.

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Janie
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 08:23 PM

Not only size, but location matters - I ain't movin' to northern
climes!


Wait, maybe we can be snowbirds -

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 05:19 PM

only 12 folkies? surely we need more

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Melissa
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 05:12 PM

I suggest the hospital. It's small (under a dozen overnight rooms) lots of bathrooms and thermostats, easy to clean and all one level..plus, it has a parking lot.

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Melissa
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 03:00 PM

There are usually hotels, nursing homes, churches, hospitals, and occasional schools for sale in this area. Maybe your Folkie Home should be near here..

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Peter C
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 10:44 AM

The Kipper Family (UK group now defunct) had this idea many years ago! It was at the time when there was this under used large house available in London near the zoo, which might have needed alternative uses.
They suggested singarounds every afternoon, and someone coming in once a week to pretend to record the old folkies!

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Janie
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 10:18 AM

Sounds like a plan to me!

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Allan C.
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 06:33 AM

Refreshing - now that it has been moved below the line

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: TheSnail
Date: 02 Feb 12 - 08:56 AM

in exchange for cheap wine and music

Wine,women and song?

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Allan C.
Date: 02 Feb 12 - 06:46 AM

A recent post by SINSULL reminded me of this thread. I thought it might be worth revisiting. Here is what SINSULL wrote:

From: SINSULL - PM
Date: 01 Feb 12 - 08:52 AM

One of these days the Mudcat Women are going to find an old hotel or huge house to share. The we'll let the men with skills visit and handle these issues in exchange for cheap wine and music.
LOL
SINS, only half joking

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: The Mole Catcher's Apprentice (inactive)
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 11:36 AM

sounds like a sequel record to me,

The Imagined Retirement Village *LOL*

Charlotte (not QUITE ready yet)

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 09:12 AM

There is an old folkies retirement village, it's called Whitby, (situated on the North East coast of England)

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Susan of DT
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 07:49 AM

The other retirement village thread

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 02:10 AM

Funneeee. And, please, please- I want to be included.

Way up there, Ritchie mentioned wanting to be able to stop by on his way to music festivals- how about putting on an annual one ourselves? There will be a never-ending supply of musicians checking in. And we can advertise world wide and pull in all kinds of new people.

And another implied that spending ALL his time with mudcatters would be a bit much- well, he can just bar the door,log on to Mudcat and talk to us.

Lovely to think of fading into the last hurrah in a society that knows what is important...

Love the idea of Mudcat Manor franchises!

I suggest we might submit ourselves from the beginning to long-term studies that can be tracked for years to come. Maybe science will learn a thing or two?

Eb

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Matt_R
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 12:49 AM

Oh gross! I don't even want to think about that now! Maybe I can just walk around with a harmonica harness on and dragging an electric guitar and amp down the corridoors, threatening to play THE SWAMP SONG if the geezers don't take their pills.

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Noreen
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 12:33 AM

Mattie, do you tune bedpans the same way as you tune a glass harmonica: by changing the level of the contents?

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Matt_R
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 12:29 AM

Ick, I can't believe they had me doing BEDPANS!! Hmmm...maybe I can have the first Old Folkie's Home All-Bedpan Percussion Orchestra...tonight's selection--"Muehlenberg County"...

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 12:26 AM

Naw...I'm still a youngster compared to you Peacenikthosp**BG** Getting pretty fancy there with the signature, aren't ya?

Just thought we might need a little more fun and wanted to acquaint any newbies with this and the other retirement thread.

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: thosp
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 12:19 AM

hmmmmmmmmm --- what promted this kat --- feeling a little old today :) (actually at 57 i'm quite interested in where this might go)

peace (Y) thosp

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Mar 01 - 11:56 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From:
Date: 24 Jun 00 - 06:56 AM

I am 31 years old but this sure looks great for me. I think that taking over an old summer camp might work. I went to Camp Clair in CT. and it was right on the CT River. This type of place already has a kitchen, boats, land, housing and an infirmary a place like that would be easy to retrofit for this purpose. You could put in a small recording studio so that all the creativity doesn't just leak to heaven and as people pass on there songs could last forever to be shared by all that come and go. I think that Tennessee might be a great place for this perhaps in the mountains w/ clean air, views, low taxes and a lot of land. Blake Henry [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: SINSULL
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 09:00 AM

Loved it RtS. But bedpans are Mbo's job. He'll be an unemployed artist/musician and someone will have to support him.

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 05:46 AM

"House of the Setting Sun": love it!!
I bet Aine's [sorry no fada] songwriters' circle can do wonders with that, better than the following anyway:

HOUSE OF THE SETTING SUN
(trad., arr.RtS ,aka The Croakin' Bullfrog)

There is a Home in New Orleans
They call the Setting Sun
Where poor old farts with failing parts
Go when their course is run

Their families are successful
And they don't want to know
About those days of Folk gone by
When we heard So-and-So

We come from every corner
From North, West, East and South
They've let me keep my old kazoo
Now, which end fits the mouth?

At least I have an audience
That doesn't shout: "get off!"
It's not that I've got better
They just turn their deaf aids off

I'm glad I came to New Orleans
And to the Setting Sun
There's more to sing of rubber ring...
Damn: "Bedpan, nurse, quick, run"!

RtS (all in the BEST possible taste!)

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 02:55 PM

Catspaw referred me to this. It reminded me of visiting Aunt May a few weeks before she died in a really nasty, dreary nursing home where she was very alone. It took her a minute to recognize me. I had brought her a tape of Gay Nineties music by Joan Morris. She ignored the tape but went for the bait. Within minutes we were singing every song we knew and some I had never heard. When it finally came time for me to leave, she became very angry with me and started singing faster and faster as if she needed to sing it all before she died.

This place had the mandatory piano and weekly visits from well meaning amateurs. But she could have been so happy if there had been someone to share HER music at the end.

So, I am reviving this thread and suggesting that one location be named "The House of the Setting Sun". I'll bet we can get government funding if all the Mudcat women incorporate as a minority. Anybody have a financial background? Real Estate? I have a Geriatrics contact and will see her this weekend.

SS

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Mudjack
Date: 27 Oct 99 - 01:30 PM

Oops... I posted yesterday to another thread closely related to this one. Pretty much said the same thing.
Now, we really are serious about all this, are'nt we? Not just one of those pretend things???
Mudjack

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: Mudjack
Date: 27 Oct 99 - 12:46 PM

I posted here yesterday only to discover it vanashed into cyberspace.
Great idea about Folkies Retirement village.
God, health and finances willing, Mrs. MJ and I should be actively retired in 6 years with a late model(not new) motohome traveling throughout this great land and Canada. Traveling can be extremely expensive, but plan on traveling at a slow pace taking in every music festival and venue we can cram in to 2 to 5 years. Hoping to meet and share music with Mudcatters from all over. That should give us ample time to burn out. If the Folkies retirement home is a reality, then I'll want to be there. Location is important to everyone. If located to distant from your offsprings, could in fact dictate different decisions. I have to think as we all look at growing old, we seem to cling on to the need of family. The Mudcat Family might be there when the other family is to busy to be family.
Mudjack

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: WyoWoman
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 11:11 PM

Northern New Mexico offers a wonderful climate. The seasons change, the summers are mild. The scenery beautiful...

I think we need a franchise for homes in several parts of the world. And they need to be called Mudcat Manor. This is a fabulous idea, and one I've tickled around in my head a bit as well.

BUT we have to keep sharing our music with those younger than us so they'll be able to honor our passion for music (and life) and not just take our exuberance as some sort of effervescent senility!

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: BobLusk
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 10:46 PM

Great thread. Have any of you thought about the Elderhostel idea? This is an existing organization that supplys inexpensive vacations all over the world for spry older folks. How about getting Pinewoods and the other folkie camps to do a week of low priced accomadations for over 50? That's AARP age, I think.

Bob

Subject: RE: Old Folkies' Home/Retirement Village
From: kendall
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 09:24 PM

wonderful idea!! 'course, it would have to be in Maine. I dont believe in traveling when you are already there.