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2005 Getaway Program Information

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Dani 14 Oct 05 - 08:29 AM
Nancy King 14 Oct 05 - 01:10 AM
Janie 13 Oct 05 - 10:33 PM
GUEST,Dani 13 Oct 05 - 04:24 PM
MMario 13 Oct 05 - 03:05 PM
InOBU 13 Oct 05 - 03:01 PM
Ferrara 13 Oct 05 - 02:59 PM
Ferrara 13 Oct 05 - 02:57 PM
SussexCarole 13 Oct 05 - 08:47 AM
Allan C. 13 Oct 05 - 06:53 AM
Fortunato 12 Oct 05 - 11:21 PM
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Bill D 12 Oct 05 - 10:42 PM
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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Dani
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 08:29 AM

Amen, sister. Maybe I've taken to heart what I always tell new server trainees when I have 'em: tell them you're new when you are, and they'll always be forgiving. If you screw up when they THINK you should know what you're doing, you're sunk...

I just told my daughter that you're the lady who said I should bring her! She's excited to come this time, especially since I told her how good YOUR son is at singing Frog Went Courting. But tell him there's no pressure....

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Nancy King
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 01:10 AM

Dani, a newbie? I don't THINK so! You're an old hand, Dani, and it'll be great to see you! We'll have to remember to be gentle with the real newbies...


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Janie
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 10:33 PM

If I'm the only fool who brings a bike I'll have to ride it by myself again down on the old RR grade by the river.

Annie (not Janie) How in the world do my cookies get messed up with her cookies.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 04:24 PM

Just right... thank you!

Dani (who will always feel like a newbie at this thing...)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: MMario
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 03:05 PM

HUZZAH!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: InOBU
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 03:01 PM

Genie and Lorcan will be there, Irish pipes and guitar in hand... see you Friday eve... lor


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 02:59 PM

I thought I'd post this paragraph separately because it's not just for workshop leaders. (Of course next year this kind of information will be available back in July, not at the last minute. Of course it will....)

"We'd like to add a quick note to everyone about song swaps and late-night sings: Leave room for shy people to lead. If you led something in the last 15 to 30 minutes, count to 30 when a song ends before offering to do the next one. Some people take much longer than that to work up their courage and volunteer!"

Thanks everybody for your help and contributions this year.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 02:57 PM

Have been planning for weeks to post something on How To Lead A Getaway Workshop. Here it is, with many thanks to Ken Schatz. (Will have copies at the Getaway, of course.)

LEADING A WORKSHOP
At the FSGW GETAWAY


FSGW Getaway workshops have a unique "flavor" that adds to "Getaway Magic." Here's how it works. You are welcome to decide how much your workshop fits these guidelines, and ignore them if they don't work for you.

All our workshops are participatory. The audience are the performers and vice versa. "The really unique thing about the Getaway is not that the people are great musicians; it's that they are great listeners." We share.

In general each leader starts off with a song, then opens the session for participation. Some sing again later if no one is waiting to sing for the first time. When a leader has a special repertoire, we sometimes invite them to take 15 minutes at the start.

Do a straight sing-around or call on people, but pay attention to fairness. Try to make sure people who come to the beginning of the session get a chance. You may want to ask at the beginning, who is there hoping to lead a song during the session. Then make sure they get to sing, even if latecomers join the circle "ahead" of them.

We'd like to add a quick note to everyone about song swaps and late-night sings: Leave room for shy people to lead. If you led something in the last 15 to 30 minutes, count 30 when a song ends, before offering to do the next one. Some people take much longer than that to work up their courage and volunteer!

Here are some other great suggestions from Ken Schatz:

       Less talk, more singing: It's easy and tempting to let introductions and explanations go long, but 60 or 90 minutes go by quickly, and most of all, the people are there for the magic of the singing, and questions can always be answered later.

       Family hold back: Theme workshops like this aren't concerts. I find it works very well when leaders plan to do first song and last song, and fill in gaps whenever necessary.

       Everybody gets a chance: Everyone should be encouraged to contribute, and to lead if they would like. Round robin - going around the circle - isn't essential, but it usually works very well, and it's the leaders' responsibility to invite latecomers to lead.

       Of course it is called a workshop, not just a singaround, so a few moments of education/background/history as events warrant are needed and wonderful. I find if you have a song with a really interesting backstory, the best thing to do is pick one amazing salient fact about it that even people who are used to the repertoire might appreciate. That keeps explanations short, pithy, fascinating. Often very neat facts are brought up. I think leaders are chosen partly because they have lots of those things rattling around their brains for just such occasions, and if we know something particularly fascinating about a song someone else has sung, we can helpfully interject: "Great song - did you know...?"

       Keep a discreet eye on the time: We shouldn't feel as if we're playing beat the clock, but as ending time nears, it's good to announce that we have time for two or three more, so who'd really like to get one in.

       Encourage the shy, forgetful, and tone-deaf: It's how people get better, and very often they have stunning material or interpretations to contribute. Honestly sharing one's love for the songs is everything.

       Encourage the stars: As long as it's not at the expense of the common folk, if a really fantastic singer sneaks in and stays hovering in the corner, ask them if they'd like to do one, but don't press too much if they say no thanks. The perfect time to do that is when a mood wants to be kept up. Stars - people with large repertoires - are great for picking what song would be perfect at a given moment.

       Encourage themes, but don't overdo it: Point out recurring mini-themes, commonalities, motifs between songs as they arise organically. Just a pinch of that is nice - educational without being being overbearing, and it helps people think of things.

       Fill the holes: Leaders are responsible for momentum of the event, and for bringing up kinds of songs or examples that haven't been touched on yet.

       Have a plan about what you'll sing and be ready to abandon it:
Specific forethought helps and it shows, but in the moment, something else might be called for. Another factor in choosing leaders is their ability to think on their feet about the theme.

       For shy people, or singers new to the genre, broad leeway on the theme: Someone wanting to contribute or try something out is more important than sticking to a narrow definition of "shanty", for example. Let a newbie sing the theme song to Gilligan's Island if they need to.

       The Singer decides if they want accompaniment or not: encourage singing along or playing along unless whoever's leading says no thanks.

        For myself, I like to play it by ear, and fill in gaps - whatever goes perfectly with what was just sung, whatever we haven't heard yet during the weekend, and whatever the room seems to be in the mood for.

And finally, don't work too hard! Just relax and have fun, and everybody else will, too.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: SussexCarole
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 08:47 AM

Well here we are...that's me & Andrew & Rumanci & Theresa all ready & waiting for our plane at Birmingham airport.   Be in JFK at around 21.00 tonight

See you all soon xxxx


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Subject: Then the clouds parted and the sun shown...
From: Allan C.
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 06:53 AM

I just had a fresh look at the weather prognostications and it is looking mighty good! It'll just be a bit cloudy by the time folks arrive on Friday. Saturday is to be sunny and Sunday will be much the same. The nighttime temps are expected to be in the high forties, (7 to 9 C). Daytime highs of 75 and 65 on Saturday and Sunday, respectively, (approx. 24 and 18 C.) Hooray!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Fortunato
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 11:21 PM

"But, soft! What light through yonder window breaks?
It is the east,..." and Janie and Dani are, just good friends of mine, OK,OK?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Dani
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 10:58 PM

Honey, Janie can buzz your kazoo all you like. It's good to know there's enough to go around. Someone else might be looking....

I keep 'em in my back pocket just in case, you know?

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Fortunato
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 10:47 PM

Happiness is having many kazoos to choose from. Although I am disappointed that Janie will not be buzzing my Kazoo, I'm older, and more mature now, and I CAN HANDLE IT, OK?

what's a kazoo amongst friends, after all?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 10:42 PM

dueling kazoos?? Mercy!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Janie
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 10:38 PM

Oh Lord, Dani, I'm so,so sorry. I guess I just lost my head when I discovered mine wasn't working properly. I just sorta panicked, ya know?

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Dani
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 10:17 PM

Geez Louise, lady!

Did you forget who your chauffeur is?!

I spruced, polished, tuned and tested ALL my kazoos this afternoon. Took the rosewood stereo out for a drive.

Be ready.....

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Janie
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 08:03 PM

Chance,

You are gentleman and scholar. My Getaway is saved!

Thank you so very much, kind suh.

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Fortunato
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 07:18 PM

Janie, I've just put a genuine, Hohner Kazoo in my guitar case with you in mind. It's white with a red sound hole, exceedingly decorative as well as harmonious.

I would be honored if you would play this kazoo at the Getaway.

regardez vous,
chance


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 07:08 PM

kazoos will be around....*I* have a kazoo with a monitor, as well as the usual kind..*grin*


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Janie
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 06:46 PM

There is always some last minute crisis. I just discovered my kazoo ain't kazooing properly;O{ Will I be welcomed without it?

Oh dear, oh dear.

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Nancy King
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 12:40 AM

I've often heard it referred to as Camp Escher, since wherever you want to go is always uphill from wherever you are.

(LOL, Dani!)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Amos
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 12:08 AM

Fortubnato:

Don't confuse things! Camp Runamuck was the annual hoot at JenEllen's (which only lasted one year, sadly). It's in all the threads on the subject.

A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 11:41 PM

Well, I don't know what I've done wrong in the upload. Dick Levine's name still isn't on the Harps workshop in the SUNDAY grid, WORD version, but I'll figure it out in the morning.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 11:34 PM

Dani, I think you're right about Mick! --

Well I'm going to Plan B. I've moved the Byzantine Hymn one hour earlier, to 10:30 AM. Songwriting Themes is at 11:30 AM and Roots of the Music is at 5 pm, all in the White House. (Thanks Dick.)

And thank you Dani (and Curmudgeon, who sent a PM) for offering to lead the Open Sing & Jam at 1:30 on Saturday. There will also be a Waltz Sing & Jam in the Gym at that time by the way.

I have put up the proposed schedules, same links:

Saturday Grid

Sunday Grid

Saturday Grid as WORD doc
Sunday Grid as WORD doc

Will add Dani's and Curmudgeon's names before it goes to the printer.

Rita


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 10:13 PM

If he couldn't before, he will when he hits the water in the pool.... stick around.

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Fortunato
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 10:10 PM

Bobert, it's Camp Runamok, not Tumbleweed. You obviously were frightened by the Son of the Pioneers at an early age.

by the way, Bobert, can you yodel?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Susan of DT
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 10:04 PM

The CAMSCO tables will be available at all times, but NOT manned. This is the one event (also the Carlaway) where we can bring the CDs, set up and go away and listen to music. Our system is to have people put their selections in bags with their name on it and catch us to pay for them. Please only put the CD in a bag if you are definately buying it - we bring only one copy of most CDs (~2000 titles). One or t'other of us should be at the table around meal times plus whenever we are passing thru. We take cash, check, or charge.

If anyone wants CAMSCO to handle their CDs for the weekend, talk to Dick.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 10:03 PM

Rita, I forget who all the Byzantine Babes are, but I think Mick might be one, which might create a conflict with his workshop.

Also, if no one else comes forward, I'd be happy to lead/co-lead a sing for those of us who "Didn't know Helen, WISH we'd known Helen, and with all due respect, will just have to go off and sing something we didn't learn from her".

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 09:32 PM

It says on the Official Getaway Thread that registration starts at 4 pm. Bill D and Charlie Baum will probably be there before that but I don't think the camp "opens" until 3 pm. Aim for 4.

Will anybody have any heartburn if we move George's Byzantine Hymn workshop to 5 pm Saturday (instead of 11:30 am)? I'd like to move Susan Hills' Songwriting Themes to 11:30. At 5pm, it would be in conflict with Country & Western. Susan participates in the C&W as a singer as well as adding her clarinet harmonies to the C&W jam, and I'd like to arrange it so she can be there.

If I can't do that, I can probably switch Songwriting Themes with Dick Greenhaus' 10:30am "Roots of the Music" workshop but I think 10:30 is not as good a spot for the Songwriting Themes as 11:30.

We're going to add an Open Sing & Jam opposite the Remembering Helen Scneyer workshop. (So that Chance and Bob Clayton can get to RHS.) We need one or two people to lead it. Unfortunately I suspect the only people who don't intend to go to Remembering Helen are coming from foreign parts (!) and it may be too late to reach them via this thread. Not to worry. If we don't get any volunteers via Mudcat we'll ask for a couple of volunteers once we get to the camp.

Rita


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Charley Noble
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 08:54 PM

My "care" will race your "care" to the "Gateway" and then our molecules will be transported and hopefully reassembled on another friendly planet...

Cheerily,
Charley Ignoble


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 08:52 PM

As fir folks concerned about the temperatures at Camp Tumbleweed, hey, irregarless of the time of year or what the temp is outside, the cabins are maintained year long at a constant 33 degress ferinhite...

Bring lots of blankets and three dogs...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 08:45 PM

I'm going to try to pack on Thursday and leave early Friday. I'm skipping the George bridge and I have a care that gets MPGs instead of GPMs, so I may make it in record time.

Charley, is the 'Gateway 2005' a race or is it a deal like the big party I remember hearing about for Saturn owners. I have a Gateway computer, and they must have forgotten to send my invitation.

Yes, it's this coming weekend. I also would like to know when we're allowed to show up... like I might make it that early... (flap, flap, oink)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Charley Noble
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 08:30 PM

How early is "early" on Friday? We New Englanders always arrive early and then grit our teeth WAITING for the official registrastion folks to show up and do their thing. That is we're early if we remember what weekend the event is happening on.

I believe that Gateway 2005 is this weekend, October 14-17th, for the whole thing.

Cheerily,
Charley Nobel et al


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 07:01 PM

Does it giok ;0)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: jacqui.c
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 04:51 PM

Jane - I'm still learnig American but am happy to translate as well.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 11:18 AM

'Doing French' has different meanings in different countries Jane!!
Giok ☺


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 11:09 AM

I can do French, Greg! Its American I have trouble with!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 05:30 AM

Oh, rather, Allan! We need a chap like Hawkeye on that job, dealing with the natives etc. No French about, are there?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Fortunato
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 09:08 PM

Duck down, Day, duck down. Ground fire light to moderate.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Allan C.
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 08:16 PM

I'd be pleased to offer my services to Skipjack and the other folks from the UK. I feel somewhat qualified to act as translator and interpreter for English/English interactions. My fees are very reasonable.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 07:31 PM

how heavy can Duck down be? ;>)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 06:39 PM

OK panic over its 32kg!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 05:57 PM

Well I think I've packed for every possible weather. Now how do I get it down to the 20kg allowed by the airline!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: curmudgeon
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 05:07 PM

Skarpi - Go to the link I posted for Accuweather, and at the upper left under "Darlington, MD," click on "metric" to get your Celsius reading -- Tom


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Amos
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 05:05 PM

50 degrees Fahrenheit = 10 degrees Celsius
70 degrees Fahrenheit = 21 degrees Celsius

Look forward to meeting you, Skarpi!



Amos


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: skarpi
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 04:54 PM

halló can you tell me what this means in celsius ?

all the best Skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 04:27 PM

50° is not cold..but if you're not used to it, and extra sweater is handy. It has been in the low 40s a few times at night the last several years and when the cabin is not heated...well...

This year looks tolerable.

Skipjack...we'll have a color chart for temp. Hold your fingers or nose up beside it, and compare shades of blue!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 04:14 PM

Thanks for that Rita. I look forward to my visit to your country, and particularly to playing the White House. Does Dubya have a flag up whilst he's in residence, like Mrs Queen? I'll need an eager intern or two to help me with my equipment, and a statistician to convert temperatures into centigrade so I know how cold it is at night.

This is shaping up nicely.......


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Amos
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 04:02 PM

Looks like 70F days, 50F nights, a little wind but probably no rain. Hope it stays that way!!!

Is 50F that cold? We don't get much below 65F here.

A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: curmudgeon
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 03:20 PM

And here's another weather forecast.


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