2005 Getaway Program Information

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Charley Noble
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 09:11 PM

Let me see if I've got this clear. The relevant dates are October 14-17 and one has to mail in the registration form with a check by October 1st.

I'm seriously considering coming, starting from Maine, but are there any ME or NH folks who would be willing to van-pool with me? I'll try to coordinate better at picking folks up than I managed to do for Indian Neck weekend last spring.

Of course it's kind of scary going to a place where there are hundreds of people all singing different songs at once...

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: treaties1
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 10:52 AM

Wow, just found this thread again and really looking forward to the Byzantine singing, thanks George. My first visit 2 years ago was mind blowing and the programme suggestions this year sound great, I'm going to be spoilt for choice again. Brilliant. Looking forward to meeting and singing with everyone, Roll on October
Theresa

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Charley Noble
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 11:58 AM

Check's in the mail!

I wonder if there will be any nautical songs? I'd be happy to help coordinate such a workshop and I suspect it's already being organized.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: CET
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 08:06 AM

Nautical songs, Charlie? There might be a remote possibility!

Edmund

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: karen k
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 12:14 PM

Theresa, Oooooooooooooooooooooooh! How great! Theresa is coming again. Now I'm really getting excited.

Hey, SussexCarole, did you get my e-mail. Please bring me a copy of the new Shellback cd, pleassssssssssssssssse!

love to you bothe,
karen

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 02:27 PM

Can't beat a naughty song - oh nautical ok well those as well. Five weeks to go!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Amos
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 02:43 PM

Charley:

I'll be happy to back you up on any naughty OR nautical songs you wanna sing!


A

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Barry Finn
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 04:46 PM

Hi Charlie, If you'd like, we'd (Justine & I) be oh so greatful to Van-Pool with you (& Judy?). I don't drive anymore but Justine still does (I think, I hope). If it's good for you, e-mail me & we can work out some kind of plan. When are you thinking of leaving Maine & when you'd be leaving the Getaway? What ever your plan we're easy.


And yes I'm sure you'll be hearing some king of sea music. After all it looks like a good percentage of the Shellbacks will be there (reason enough for going but not near the only reason). You'll love them


Hi Theresa, so glad you & Noreen & the crew will be there again, last time was to die for.


Barry

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Charley Noble
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 09:47 PM

Amos and Barry-

It will be my pleasure, for sure!

I've got some new favorite songs that I worked up special for my recent Pacific Northwest foray and I'm anxious to expose them to other folks as well.

I'm currently planning to run down on Friday, starting early from Maine, and come back on Monday, arriving back in Maine completely wasted.

Unfortunately, JudyB has work to do with the Legislature.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 14 Sep 05 - 09:29 AM

As for sea songs I am hoping to have another of Linda Kelly's wonderful songs under my belt by then. Anyone fancy doing some French sea songs?

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: CET
Date: 14 Sep 05 - 06:25 PM

I sing in French and I like sea songs. I don't know French sea songs by heart though. No reason why I shouldn't try and learn one.

Edmund

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 07:51 AM

Will bring a few over then. I already sing 'Pique la Baleine' with the Shellbacks so that could be a starting point and then look at a few others maybe.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 09:59 AM

WOuld any Shellbacks coming over please bring along some CDs--CAMSCO would like to carry them, but I don't know where to get some.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 07:00 PM

I'll try to get some then Dick.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 07:51 PM

Well, there goes THAT music budget....

Dani

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Fortunato
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 09:23 PM

Rides to the Getaway from the DC area? Two folks have approached me about rides to the Getaway, but we are full up with Micca and Catsphiddle.

Can anyone give a ride to a mudcatter or two from DC to the Getaway?

chance

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 01:52 AM

Well the program is moving a bit faster now ...

Yes, certainly,we will have a Shanties workshop, maybe combine it with other maritime songs or maybe have a separate "Songs of the Sea" workshop. And we will have "Foreign Languages," (led by Skarpi and FSGW's Kathie Mack), so there will be two places where a French shantey can be sung.

And we are working on having two gospel sessions, possibly entitled "Gospel" and "More Gospel -- Shake the Roof," or some such, as requested.

Something else to look forward to: George Ward is one of our special guests this year. He is an award winning songwriter, has a grand repertoire of songs collected in upstate New York, is a shantey singer, plays "Banjo, Guitar, Tin whistle, Concertina, Fiddle, Jaw Harp and more," etc.

This is just to let you know we're here. There's much more lined up and in the works. To be continued ....

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Charley Noble
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 09:28 AM

Be nice to meet and sing with George Ward again.

I don't lead any French sea songs but I'd be more than happy to chorus along on some.

"Songs of the Sea" (SOS) is probably more appropriate as a workshop title than having to explain why a particular sea ballad is NOT a "shanty/shantey/chanty/chantey."

Could someone clarify whether this workshop will be outside or inside? I'm assuming there is no sound equipment involved other than our natural or unnatural voices, and optional accoustic instruments.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 10:40 AM

I do lead one or two French shanties so that will be great. I am also trying to learn another French/Breton song which is not a shanty but still relates to sailors and the sea.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 11:07 AM

Charlie..if the "weather be good" all workshops usually have the option of moving outside, and this has happened, at least temporarily I think, every year. Being October, you never know. We do not have sound except for the Sat. nite concert, but it has never been much of a problem.

Last year we had quite a rain for awhile, but we were also outside at times. We had one sea songs session I remember where it was best to stay in....but that was in the gymnasium, and sound carried fine.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 01:44 PM

Well, Charlie, I was thinking along the lines of having your session be a "Shantey Blast" sort of session, similar to the "Raise the Roof" gospel session, where the songs would mostly have a sing-along part and/or a chorus. That is a different sort of energy than you get with forebitters and songs about the sea, which would be covered in an "Other Sea Songs" or "Songs of the Sea" or "Ocean, Rivers and Waterways" session. The "Other Sea Songs" would also allow shanties, of course. Haven't discussed this with the Committee yet though so will gladly hear opinions while things are still in progress. :-)

The thing is, there are so many good maritime singers coming this year that I feel they will need extra time if we can manage it! ... We'll see.

We have a couple of people here in FSGW who sing French shanties (they're sung at the Royal Mile Pub in Wheaton, too) so lots of us know the choruses at least.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Barry Finn
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 04:14 PM

Hi Nancy & all

Justine & I will be there fri-mon, we're van-pooling with Charlie Noble, thank you Charlie registrations have been sent in & a special thanks to you Nancy & Carly, Charlie B & epically you Ritta. LOL.


Micca, love your idea for a songwriter's workshop


Dani, some ideas that are also very appealing to me too;

Songs of celebration

Occupational Songs (about work or working)

Work songs (from the land)


Edmund, songs "I learned from... " For songs that you learned in person from another human being, rather than from a recording?


Songs that roam the (US) eastern mountain ranges, north to south.


Elizabeth & Sandy LaPrelle


Work songs from the West Indies to the Mid-Atlantic Sea Board


Songs (not just work) from inside the prison systems, anywhere


Whaling (by itself)


Wagon Trains & Pioneers

Cowboys, Over Landers/Drovers & their like from other countries.


Levee Workers & Gandy Dancers


Songs of Transport; Lakes, Canals, River ways & Intercoastal Highways of anywhere


Singing Jigs & Reels


Child Labor(not about giving birth)songs

Or, traditional songs of child labor &/or pregnancies…. Ya know,,,like


"For 9 long years & 9 long months I've carried this child

Carried this child (2x)


I'll bet in 9 more days & things gonna turn wild

Gonna turn wild (2x)


Hoodoo woman better do sump'n fast

Sump'n fast(2x)


For the next 9th day will surely be your last

Be your last (2x)


(by me, on the fly
on the fly)


Seems there maybe idea in there that some one could snack. I'm imagining that Ballads & shanties are going to be well covered. Is Joe Offer coming? Joe????


Barry

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 04:24 PM

Barry...I think that since he has obligated 127% of his time at home, the only way we'll get Joe this year is with a matter transmitter to beam him in for short bursts. I'm not sure he wants to try out the Beta test model...

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: CET
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 07:02 PM

I've been thinking more about my off hand suggestion a month ago about a workshop on spooky, violent, grim and bloodthirsty songs. Something along those lines might work well, especially if people come up with songs that have more to them than just buckets of gore - unsentimental songs with great imagery, the kind that put your nerves on edge just a bit.

Edmund

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 02:13 AM

Barry -- A big Boo Hoo, Joe Offer had six or eight conflicting obligations for Getaway weekend and the shameful fact is, he decided to honor them instead of coming to the Getaway. What kind of person puts their responsibilities ahead of the Getaway, I ask you? Oh well Joe we love you lots or we wouldn't mind so much that you can't come!

Good suggestions for the program, Barry. We'll see if we can follow up on some of them.

Elizabeth LaPrelle is a freshman at William & Mary and has had a gig or other obligation almost every weekend from the beginning of August to the weekend before the Getaway, so she's still undecided. A ride to and from W&M might help but school might still have to be her priority. I ask you again, what sort of person ... ? The good news is, Sandy is planning to come, and John may be able to come if he can get a ride back to Rural Retreat (Virginia-NC border) on Sunday so's he can work Monday morning. (hint hint)

CET, consider yourself (and Charmion?) booked for an hour session of "Spooky, Violent, Grim and Bloodthirsty." Asking you to lead it has been on my to-do list for about 2 weeks. Shame on me. Don't know if there will be a co-leader, does Charmion want to co-lead it?

We have TWO special song writers' sessions in the works. They both look very good if they work out. There is so much interest this year that we thought the song writing folks should have two sessions if we can manage it.

Sorry to bring you all this news in dribs and drabs but ... that's how the program always takes shape, actually.

We're expecting to bring in more Mudcatters as workshop leaders, and also, we need to contact a number of our "regulars" and see if they'd like to lead a workshop. It takes time. In the meantime, I have this wildlife art show next week....

Yesterday the Washington Post printed a great photo of the National Zoo's 10 week old panda; he is finally old enough to look like something you can recognize. So today I woodburned four Baby Panda necklaces. Busy busy busy....

Rita

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 09:36 AM

Rita-

There definitely should be an "Other Songs of the Seas Session" for the traditional forebitters, the naval ballads, the C. Fox Smith poems that many of us have been setting to music, the contemporary sea songs such as by Gordon Bok, Stan Rogers or Tom Lewis, and the outrageous parodies such as "The Sloop John A." Maybe the parodies belong in their own workshop.

Of course, we also have shanties that are fairly new but sound traditional, such as "Pump Shanty." And there are some shanties such as "Wake Up Susianna" which may be hard to characterize...

More is better?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: MMario
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 09:40 AM

there is always the informal "after hours" sessions (which can be adeertised at dinner)

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Susan A-R
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 10:56 PM

WAAAAAAA!! I think it was really dumb of me to check this thread when I can't be there. Next year without fail!!!

(I've separated from my husband and the finances are getting pretty creative as I figure out how to do stuff on one income.) My choice, a good move, but What a cast of characters!!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Janie
Date: 23 Sep 05 - 08:38 AM

Oh No Susan! I was really looking forward to seeing you. Did you consider asking Charlie Baum about a scholarship? And then bumming a ride down with some one else? No Susan. No Joe. Boohoohoo:<

Janie

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Susan A-R
Date: 23 Sep 05 - 05:51 PM

Janie, Thanks. Charlie just sent me a message about scholarships. I had already filled in the weekend with fun stuff, figuring that i'd better if I didn't want to be completely depressed, so I'm spending the weekend gigging, dancing and probably hosting acontradance band and/or caller. I'll be thinking of you all, and will definitely be there next year. If any of the far travelers are coming north and east, they would be most welcome here after or before the getaway.

Susan

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Micca
Date: 23 Sep 05 - 08:20 PM

Susan, CatsPHiddle and I will be at SINSULLs the end of the week after the Getway and would love to see you if its possible!!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Susan A-R
Date: 23 Sep 05 - 09:44 PM

Micca, Either a detour on your part through Vermont (I have a nice futon, the food is good, foliage may be still on tap, given global warming and the level of green we still have here, and it isn't too far out of the way.) If not, I'll give some thought to getting over to Maine. I have been meaning to do that, and should be able to figure out something.

Susan

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 12:42 PM

Hmmm..."Spooky, Violent, Grim and Bloodthirsty". Not usually my choice of topics, but I'm real tempted to go kick a few rocks over and see what I might find... ;-)

-- Gary

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Charley Noble
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 04:42 PM

In Fleet Street, that's in London Town,
When good Prince Charlie wore the crown,
There lived a man of great renown –
"Spooky, Violent, Grim and Bloodthirsty"

I'm not sure I know any such ditties...

One Sweeney Todd the Barber;
One shave from him, you'd want no more,
You'd feel his razor sharp –
Bang, wallop, fall through the floor,
And wake up playing the harp while singing:

Sweeney Todd the Barber!
By God, he was better than a play!
Sweeney Todd the Barber!
"I'll polish 'em off," he used to say.
His clients through the floor would slope,
But he had no fear of the hangman's rope;
"Dead men don't talk with their months full of soap!"
Said Sweeney Todd the Barber.

Or maybe:

Down the drafty corridors for miles and miles she goes,
She often catches cold at night for it's drafty when it blows,
And it's awfully, awfully, awkward for the queen to blow her nose,
With her head tucked underneath her arm!

Or maybe:

There was blood on the saddle,
And blood all around,
And a great big puddle of blooooood on the ground!

Cheerily,
Charley Ignoble

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: jacqui.c
Date: 26 Sep 05 - 09:50 AM

Susan - if you can get here I'm sure we can find you a bed somewhere!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: CET
Date: 26 Sep 05 - 02:24 PM

I just walked in the door after a weekend in Portsmouth at the Maritime Folk Festival. Charmion and I will be delighted to help with the Spooky, Violent, etc workshop.

The Portsmouth Festival came along just at the right time to get my singing batteries charged up.

Edmund

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 26 Sep 05 - 06:28 PM

Lost my voice completely at weekend so hope to get it running again very soon

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Sep 05 - 07:55 PM

Rita,

Do you need me to facilitate a blues workshop this year?

Bobert

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Amos
Date: 26 Sep 05 - 10:59 PM

Bobert:

Workshop or no, we will be jamming; I yearn to learn at the feet of a master.

A

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Sep 05 - 11:05 PM

Well, get yer open tunin's dusted off, Amos, 'cause I got more than Carter has liver pills...

I bring three guitars to handle 'um all... And then they spill over...

Bobert

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: jimmyt
Date: 26 Sep 05 - 11:30 PM

BObert, will you jam with a conservative Bass player? grin

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Sep 05 - 08:38 AM

When it comes to bass player, conservative is good...

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: treaties1
Date: 29 Sep 05 - 09:38 PM

AS this thread gets longer I'm finding it harder to think of appropriate songs that might be suitable. Is there a definitive list nearly ready please? Only two weeks to go and excitement mounting.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Nancy King
Date: 29 Sep 05 - 09:55 PM

We will be posting a list of workshops within a day or two. Whether it will be "definitive," I can't really say, but it will be a good start. Sorry to be so slow about this, but it always turns out to be a last-minute deal, no matter how early we start. We have to be sure who's coming (lots of people wait till the last minute to register), then contact folks about leading workshops, see how much time we have available, etc., etc. And of course we do have a few other things going on in our lives. None more important, of course -- just the stuff that pays the bills! Anyhow, try to be patient a couple of days longer, please! And rest assured there will be something for everyone -- just plan what you'd like to sing, and you'll be able to fit it in somewhere!

Off to make more phone calls....

Nancy

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: DonMeixner
Date: 30 Sep 05 - 03:48 PM

Well my plans to attend have once again been thwarted. My wife needs to have some surgery. Nothing desparate but very necessary. It would look pretty poor among members of my family were I to drop her off at Community General on my way out of town. So I had better linger about the area. Maybe I can get down to WYSIWYG's for a visit but that hope looks small too.

So, please take lots of pictures and copious and legible notes. And I'll probably see many of you at Old Songs in June.

Don

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Allan C.
Date: 30 Sep 05 - 08:40 PM

Does that mean you went to the conservatory, jimmyt?

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: jimmyt
Date: 30 Sep 05 - 08:59 PM

Allan, It mostly means that I am a left handed bass player with leanings to the right. I am probably lysdexic

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Nancy King
Date: 30 Sep 05 - 10:31 PM

OK, folks, here's a PRELIMINARY workshop list, including leaders where they have been confirmed. We are still waiting for quite a few calls and messages to be returned.

We have tried to communicate with each other, but it's possible some things listed here may not be quite right. If you are listed for something you haven't agreed to, or if we've asked you to do something and you've agreed to it, but it isn't listed here, please let us know ASAP by PM!

There are also some other workshops under consideration, so the list will grow and change as we get things nailed down.   There will also be a number of half-hour mini-concerts, a Friday night open sing, Saturday and Sunday evening concerts, and unlimited impromptu jamming, so rest assured there will be plenty to do!

We plan to put the schedule grid together within a week, and will post it as soon as we can. Then we'll do it over…

Workshop List:

Bandits, Bullies, and Badass Braggarts – Dan Schatz (and ?)

Ballads – Barry Finn (and ?)

Ballads with Choruses and/or Refrains

Blues Jam or Blues Styles

Country and Western Jam – T. J. O'Malley

Fantasy Adventures for Kids – George Rathbone

Forebitters and Other Sea Songs – Ken Schatz (and ?)

Foreign Language Songs – Skarpi Haraldsson, Kathie Mack

Gospel Songs – Susan Clark, Lisa Null

Harmony – Charlie Baum (and Mia Boynton?)

Humorous Songs

Irish Songs – Noreen Keene and Mick Lane

Jug Band/Skiffle

Old Time Jam

The Oral Tradition is Alive and Well, or, Songs You Learned from a Person -- Nancy King (and ?)

Parodies – Micca Patterson, Jacqui Clark, David Diamond

Pub Sing – Leo (MMario) Pola, Darriel Day

Raise-the-Roof Gospel – Carly Gewirz (and ?)

Remembering Helen Schneyer – Kathy Westra

Scottish Songs – Dan Schatz (and John "Giok" Mackenzie?)

Shanties – Charlie Ipcar (and ?)

Song Writing Themes – Susan Hills

Songwriters

Spooky, Violent, Grim and Bloodthirsty – Edmund Thomas (and ?)

Squeezeboxes

Tall Tales and Stories – Kendall Morse

"When You Perform…" – Dennis and Judy Cook, Chance and Susette Shiver, Kendall Morse

Whistles – Terry ("Leadfingers") Silver

Women's Work – Jennifer Woods

Yodeling (and Cowboy Songs?) – Chance Shiver (and ?)

###

See you soon!
Nancy

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: KT
Date: 30 Sep 05 - 10:44 PM

YAHOO!!! Just reading this list has me grinnin'!! The only omission I can detect is the Cloning Worshop! Two weeks from tonight......It's going to be grand! thanks to ALL who are working so hard to put this together!!

Can't wait!!!

KT

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Nancy King
Date: 30 Sep 05 - 10:51 PM

All right, KT, you're leading the Cloning Workshop!