2005 Getaway Program Information

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 02:59 PM

note to the directions note: Registration will NOT be in the Gazebo that you see as you arrive... We tried that a couple of times, and it is just too open and windy/wet and gets dark too soon....is is 'possible' there will be someone there for VERY early arrivals, but IF you need to unload stuff at the dining hall, it is best just to go straight at the gazebo, aim to the left of the white house, and head slowly down the hill (dirt becoming narrow asphalt) past cabins on the left till you get to the backdoor of the dining hall. There is ***TEMPORARY** parking for 8-12 cars down there, but ONLY for brief unloading.

If you have only small bags, etc, it is best to park in the BIG open lot beside the Gazebo and walk down to registration ...........We need people to **NOT* clog & clutter the small amount of parking space at the dining hall....MOST of the cabins have a way to drive right near the doors to unload, but you may need direction to get there...so register first!

If you are new....walking to the right of the big White house takes you right down a grassy hill to the front door of the dining hall, but if if is wet and/or dark, it is best to follow the dirt/asphalt road to the left of the White house until you have seen it once in the daylight.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 12:58 PM

Nancy pointed out that I forgot to put Greg Dunn's name (Skipjack K8) on the Squeezeboxes workshop. I have fixed it, and Greg I'm sorry for the oversight.

Also, I've now put up the WORD versions of the schedule to make them easy to print. You'll have to download them and open them in WORD. The htm versions are still available if you can't read WORD.

Saturday - MS WORD version

Sunday - MS WORD version

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 12:46 PM

Yes, everybody needs to bring rain gear and cold weather gear if they have room for it! And several changes of socks in case of wet feet.

And flashlights. It is dark between buildings in the camp at night and they do help.

If you're not traveling too light, bring an identifiable coffe cup to avoid using too many styrofoam cups.

Also, I recommend using a heating pad for warmth at night rather than a space heater -- less likely to blow the fuses and leave everybody without warmth. Turn it off in the daytime though! They can be a fire hazard. Or, if you have any of those microwaveable bags filled with rice or seed corn, you can warm it at the dining hall. No electricity, no fire hazard, but only about 4 hours of warmth.

There is a (small, low-watt) microwave in the dining room, and hot water and coffee until they run out late at night. Charlie writes that there is a large hot plate for the Friday potluck for keeping foods a bit warm. There is NO facility for cooking though, be sure whatever you bring is fully cooked.

There is only a tiny sink for washing up after the potluck but some folks take their stuff to the bathrooms to wash it.

By the way, one of the least appreciate features of Ramblewood is that the bathrooms are down a flight of stairs from the dining room and TV Room. If you can't manage the stairs, make sure you leave yourself time to get to one of the cabins! Or, you can go outside and come in on the lower level.

For people who really can't handle going up and down stairs all day we have special parking permits to let them drive from venue to venue. PM Charlie ahead of time if you need one. And, if you have a parking permit, please pay careful attention to the areas where we are allowed to park. For example don't park too close to the dining hall.

Bring your own bed linens and some extras for overseas guests, we've discussed that before.

Have you all found the Directions and What to Bring ?

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Janie
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 12:31 PM

Dry socks. Wool or synthetic socks. Extra pairs. Rain boots. Wool cap.

Warm dry feet and warm dry head make for happy campers....and once clothes get wet they will stay wet as there is no heat anywhere.

From One Who Knows!
Janie

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Charley Noble
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 12:28 PM

Bill-

Weather looks a lot better than the 8 inches of rain we collected here in Maine this weekend.

I'll probably bring some foul weather gear anyway, along with a sleeping bag and a couple of extra blankets. But then again, who sleeps?

Program looks better to me.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 12:04 PM

hey...wanna see a pic of the weather forecast? (for Havre de Grace, a few miles away...)

Oh, I do love technology! *grin*

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Janie
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 12:00 PM

Nancy, it is ALWAYS perfect. And anyway--I'm afraid if I complained I'd have the job next year ;>)

Janie

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 11:53 AM

not much real close to the camp, Giok, but there are usually extra wraps for emergencies. (I have this BIG van, and I always toss some jackets, rain gear, sweaters...etc...in a bag behind the seat...with so many visitors, I will try for a selection)

weather forecast 'now' suggests there 'may' be some scattered showers on Sat, with Sunday still looking clear.....I guess it depends on how fast these systems end up moving and their precise track.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 11:40 AM

I'm travelling light, if it gets so cold or wet that I need to buy a cheap sweater or kagoul, is there a thrift shop anywhere near?
Sorry not really listed on programme but!
Giok

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: GUEST,Nancy King at work
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 11:31 AM

Hmmm -- not much comment. Does that mean we finally got it perfect?

Nancy

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 11:22 AM

refresh for easy notice

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 06:45 PM

NEW SCHEDULES ARE ON LINE.

Saturday Grid - Oct 9
Sunday schedule grid - Oct 9

We were able to ease some of the conflicts by using more hours, i.e. starting more workshops early in the morning and/or right after lunch. Now, in fairness to the workshops leaders, be ready to get to those workshops on time.

And, if you are leading a workshop right after lunch, you have permission to go straight to the lunch counter without waiting in line.

It will really help if you get comments to us as soon as possible (by Monday night if you can, but earlier is much better.) We need time to ponder what changes are still possible and what the impact of changes would be. And of course we need time to get the grids to the printer.

Thanks, we hope this helps,
Rita

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 01:40 PM

Well Giok, better bring one of those expandable packable folding ones as well :-) CAMSCO has an incredible assortment of CD's, and besides lots of the Mudcatters will bring their CD's I hope.

And we'll have various other goodies such as Jed Marum's latest CD, and a few copies of his first CD as well. As he has done before, Jed has donated them to benefit the Getaway Silent Auction.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 01:12 PM

I was only going to bring a small suitcase!!
G ☺

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 11:56 AM

credit cards only if YOU have your own account/machine.. Camsco does their own. Other CDs are usually just put neatly on a (usually separate) table with a little sign, if needed, and an envelope for money/checks. Change is however it works best. People just find each other and juggle it...(so far, the honor system seems to work fine...Rita & I put our crafts out, and people find us and throw money when they can). The Camsco table is about the only place that is manned continuously. It's all really a pretty nice, if hectic, arrangement...

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Charley Noble
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 10:52 AM

How does the CD table work? Should performers bring inventory sheets along with their CD's? Should we provide a change envelope (with change)? Is everything on a cash basis or is there a credit card option for purchasers?

Or do we just add our CD's to a pile and hope for the best!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: MMario
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 10:13 AM

That's an okay-fine from me Rita!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 03:45 AM

Thanks Tink, I was just suffering from senile angst here trying to remember if I use Medium or Light, as I'd totally forgotten, my mind is a wilderness without signposts these days. Anyway I had to look at the maker's web site to be sure, I do prefer the D'Addario and a couple of sets might be best if you can manage that.
Thanks.
Giok ☺

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Tinker
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 10:14 PM

I'll pick up a set of strings before I head out Giok. I go by the music shop most days.

tinker

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 08:03 PM

Mmario, would you be willing to have the Pub Sing opposite "Helen Schneyer Remembered"? We need something with general appeal to provide a refuge for folks who never heard of Helen and want to go sing something during that session. I know Darriel won't mind; in the years when Helen was coming to the Getaway, he was running around outside with the other little kids and never heard any music if he could possibly avoid it.

And I've decided to move American Trad (my own workshop) from against Helen Remembered! Well, it will be a conflict for a lot of people besides me. (Hmmmm ... But then I'm gonna want to go to Pub Sing if my kid is leading it ... this stuff gets complicated.)

I may also ask Dottie if we can hold the Waltz Jam in that time slot.

Guess we'd also better make the Helen session an hour and a half. Well that makes sense to me. In my mind, Helen was more or less the Queen of the Getaway for all the years she came to it.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 07:55 PM

D'Addario or La Bella Silk on Steel Mediums.
G ☺

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 07:52 PM

Giok, probably not, what kind of strings do you use? Can anybody volunteer to pick up a set for him?

Thanks to folks who are volunteering to move to early in the morning. Now folks, if we move them you have to wake up and go to their workshops!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 07:44 PM

Will any of the tables be selling strings I need a set and can't get into town before I leave?
Giok ☻

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Amos
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 07:40 PM

I can't tear myself in half between doing blues with Bobert and Irish war songs with Mick. That's a fine pickle to be in, I tell ya. Incandesent, even!!

Speaking of incandescent pickles, is Bert coming down? He likes to sing the "Pickle Glows at Night " tune.

A

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: CET
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 06:36 PM

10 a.m. would be OK for me. I'm an early riser even after a hard night's singing.

Edmund

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: jacqui.c
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 05:54 PM

I'm fine with 10.00am as well - not so sure about the Cap'n!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: CET
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 03:56 PM

10 a.m. would be OK for me. I'm an early riser even after a hard night's singing.

Edmund

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 03:14 PM

Voyager,

Are you coming just for Saturday during the day? I don't think that's a problem but Charlie Baum is the one who can give you an answer. You can send him a PM or an e-mail (special At fsgw DOT org).

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Charley Noble
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 02:36 PM

Rita-

The draft schedule looks much nicer now that my wife copied it and repasted it into MS Word, with the cell separations.

10 AM is fine with me. I don't plan to do any sleeping anyway...

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 01:18 PM

I hope I will get other chances to hear Bobert during the weekend, as we clash on Sunday.
Giok

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Janie
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 01:13 PM

Rita, I think 10:00 is a reasonable time to start--most of us make it out to breakfast.

For myself, I just accept that I am going to have to make some hard choices, and also that I will have to split up some workshops--catching the first half of one and the 2nd half of another.

Janie

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Pauline L
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 01:07 PM

Skarpi said we might hear

some Hardangursfiddlestunes and song with that great Instrument

That would be wonderful. I have tried playing a Hardangur fiddle and I'd love to learn and hear more. I'm also looking forward to hearing some Icelandic songs, too.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: voyager
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 12:44 PM

Will the Get-Away accept walk-on registration for a Saturday program?
I've printed out the forms to send to Judy C. but won't know if I'm
good to go until the end of next week.

voyager
FSGW Ghetto
Silver Spring, MD.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 12:36 PM

Here's another question for the group. We didn't put much in the early mornings this year because people tend to be sleepy and not quite make it to the earliest workshops.

BUT. We could ease some of the conflicts by making more use of those early morning time slots.

How many of you expect to be up and ready to make music by 10 in the morning on Sunday? Saturday?

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 12:31 PM

On the other thread, people have advised us against having "anything" opposite the Helen Schneyer workshop. I tend to feel the same way, but I know there will be people coming to the Getaway who never knew Helen. Any suggestions for what we could put opposite "Remembering Helen Schneyer"? I can see we need changes there.

Edmund has given us some good suggestions for the schedule grid. The biggest problem with programs like this is conflicts that leave people feeling disappointed at having to miss a favorite workshop. Every year we work overtime trying to get rid of the worst conflicts. In general there are groups of people who will gravitate to different kinds of music and we try to have something for each of those groups in hopes they will all find something they like, but not too many things they like, at each time slot.

Bill mentioned feeling that Sunday afternoon is full of conflicts for him. How many others have the same problem?

We really welcome comments, folks -- we need more feedback before we consider any changes to the schedule.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Charley Noble
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 11:57 AM

Bill-

Thanks for the clarification on the duration of the Shanties/Chanteys/Chanties Workshop. 90 minutes should be ample for a rousing good session.

Ken-

Thanks for the detailed notes. Maybe we could work them up as a shanty:

Oooh wake her! Oh, shake her!
Let's hear next from that gal with the blue dress on,
Johnny come down to Hilo,
Poor old man!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 09:57 AM

we dont have access to the kitchen at Ramblewood....people sometimes bring plug-in pans or pots, but plugs are limited, too. (And remember...there are not full facilities for washing pots in the dining room-only a tiny sink, I think.)

Let's see if Charley Baum can get info from the camp in the next several days about what the limits are. We MUST be able to clean up what we bring so the camp staff is not faced with a mess on Sat morning.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: jacqui.c
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 07:35 AM

Will there be facilities to heat food on Friday night? If so I'll bring a big pot of chilli as well as a cheesecake.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 07:20 AM

You heard wrong Jane it's aural!
G.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 06:01 AM

Well I prefer my lunch in the oral tradition as sticking it in my ear ruins the hair :0)

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Nancy King
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 12:17 AM

Well, I'm not going to ignore it -- it cracked me up!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ferrara
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 10:49 PM

Ken I'm going to ignore that, no doubt MS-WORD or your browser has done something to the lines between workshops on the grid.

I am missing an Open sing tonight. Somehow I was so worn out today (no, not because of the Getaway, or any other reason I know of) that I slept all afternoon and most of the evening. Sigh.... Anyway now that I'm awake thought I'd take a look in on the thread.

There is another way that Mudcatters can of help this year. Actually Carly reminded me of it. She's planning to bring an extra large potluck contribution. A lot of people may find it difficult to bring potluck because of airport schedules, etc. Maybe some of you can bring a larger potluck offering than usual, especially main dishes. We don't want people traveling all the way from Wherever only to get to Ramblewood and find there is not enough to eat and they are going to go hungry until Saturday morning!

Thanks,
Rita

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Ken Schatz
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 09:59 PM

(Thanks Charlie - just sent you a note.)

I'm particularly excited about the "Lunch Learned in the Oral Tradition" workshop. Not only did I learn songs from Nancy King, I guess I learned lunch from her too.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 06:17 PM

Charlie...the gym is a BIG place...full basketball court size.

smaller workshops need to cuddle..*grin*...but it has never been a serious problem. And look close..the shanties workshop is from 3 to 4:30

(printed copies of schedule will be at registration...all lined up)

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Charley Noble
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 05:46 PM

Rita-

Schedule looks interesting. When I print it, however, the beginning time gets partially clipped. The workshops also don't line up consistently as I scan across, probably some weird formating problem. Maybe it's because I'm working with a MAC.

I'm assuming that the Shanties Workshop begins at 3 and ends at 3:30 pm. What kind of space is the Gym? How large is it? Does it got ropes to climb up?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble
Shanties Workshop Co-coordinator

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Janie
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 04:14 PM

Ha!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Janie
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 04:10 PM

Bill, I have one thing to say about that.       HA!.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 04:07 PM

Main conflicts - yes.

Now do something about it!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 02:12 PM

Janie...our resident biologist is lamarca....I tried to get her to arrange that cloning stuff YEARS ago, but she mumbled some silly excuse (like "HA!") and suggested I might have to wait a few years.

Mini-disks, tape recorders and photos help...but....

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Program Information
From: Janie
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 01:54 PM

The Cloning workshop--will it be late Friday night or during breakfast on Saturday morning?

Janie