Davey Graham programme on BBC radio

Subject: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 03:46 AM

If you missed Whatever happened to Davy Grham on BBC radio2 at 21.30 BST last night it should be available on BBC Online for a week.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/folkcountry/ has full information.

RtS

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: Fiona
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 04:34 AM

Thanks for that I missed it! Hope this works,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/mainframe.shtml?http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio2_aod.shtml?radio2/r2_davygraham

I heard a dreadful story a while ago that he'd been asked to audition for a pub gig, so it's not before time!

Fiona

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: GUEST,Sooz sans cookie
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 04:35 AM

Thanks - listening now.

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 06:01 AM

Terrific. I like the approach of this one, where they focused more on the music. Very insightful.

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: BanjoRay
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 07:34 AM

Excellent program with at least one terrible mistake. Davy Graham didn't invent DADGAD tuning. It was being used by US blues performers at least 30 years previously.
He's an amazing guy though.
Ray

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: John Routledge
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 08:01 AM

First time I've ever sat in front of screen and listened for an hour.:0)

Thanks RtS

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: GUEST,pippingo
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 09:29 AM

RE: banjoray I'm pretty shure it wasn't used as a blues tuning as its open, modal nature reasults in a lack of resolution essential to blues music. It is one string away from open D and two from open G the most popular open tunings for blues guitar. One tuning is it close to is the 'mountain modal' tuning on the banjo used in appalacian music.

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 10:14 AM

Davy Graham didn't invent DADGAD tuning

Possibly not but he was certainly the only player using it in London when I first came across him in the mid 60s.

One tuning is it close to is the 'mountain modal'

On a banjo this is gDGCD and so on a guitar, usually FGDGCD (and on a fiddle, AEAC#).

I was a bit puzzled by the programme's assertion that it had been difficult to track Davy down.   True, he's not always 'at home' but he's lived in the same place since 1968 that I know of. What struck me was Bert Jansch having so much to say, one person who certainly gets more talkative as he gets older.

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: BanjoRay
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 01:18 PM

Yup - I'm wrong. Never let a banjo player comment about guitar techniques. Just dug my guitar out of the rubbish in the attic and tried it out - not the tuning I was thinking of. Sorry.
Cheers
Ray

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 04:31 PM

I've never seen a clear explanation 0f the connection between "mountain" banjo tuning and DADGAD: Here's my take! First, re-arrange the notes from "mountain" banjo tuning low to high, and you get "dgcdg"; now move that tuning down a 4th ( so that it is in the same range as the guitar) and you have "adgad" !! Voila !!

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: JohnB
Date: 21 Aug 05 - 09:22 PM

Great programme, I listened to it over breakfast this morning.
JohnB

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: fat B****rd
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 06:05 AM

Much obliged, Roger. You will be hearing from me shortly !!
PS It pays to study The Radio Times.

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 09:27 AM

I love DG's playing even though I don't know my DAGDAD from my BADDAD.
Fascinating programme.

RtS

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: number 6
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 09:43 AM

"Davy Graham didn't invent DADGAD tuning" .... maybe true, but he did compose my favourite guitar piece "Anji".

sIx

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 10:07 AM

Liked the bit that said music shops would put up notices saying "The next person to start playing Angi/Anji/Angie will be ejected".

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 10:26 AM

Yes, hilarious. Wonderful piece, but I expect it can drive you mad if every other guitarist to walk in the door starts picking it.

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: GUEST,steve benbows protege on honeymoon!!!
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 11:54 AM

Roger, as always i wont be able to get to it before the link comes down.

Do you have a taped copy? If you do I will score up with you for a copy of it.

Thanks mate.

Pete.

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 01:20 PM

Pete

I've got a copy on computer. I can pop it on CD for you. PM me when you get back. And congratulations!

Mick

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: Lanfranc
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 01:28 PM

Haven't listened to the programme yet, but will tomorrow.

If you went into Ivor Mairants shop in London in the late 60s and early 70s, asked to try a guitar and then essayed "Anji", "Romance" or (later) "Stairway to Heaven", you risked having the guitar snatched from your grasp!

I could see their point, but they were often quite rude about it. The thing was not to get caught out more than once!

My solution was to learn Loudermilk's "Windy and Warm", which, being also based on Am, segued into "Anji" quite neatly for other occasions. Paul McNeill (who used DG as second guitarist on one of his records) used to link "Anji" to "Weeping Willow Blues", which worked quite well, too.

I've often wondered whether DG recieved royalties from Paul Simon's extensive use of "Anji" in his various early recordings?

Alan

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 02:59 PM

my understanding was that PS put anji on the first S&G electric album in order to do that very thing - raise some money for Davey. It didn't really fit with the rest of the stuff on that album.

R

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 03:00 PM

Well, he was credited at least.

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: GUEST,weelittledrummer
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 03:36 PM

terrific programme

however I think maybe they should some credit to those people who devoted their lives to refining their art without submitting to the pressure.

A series with Dick gaughan, derek Brimstone, the late Gerry Lockran, and wizz Jones. These people have given their all to encouraging young players and providing a standard. When is the BBC going to wake up to the fact that these peole are a finite resource.? england should be as proud of them as america is of louis Armsrong and Bix and miles Davis.

I do feel for Davey graham - lets face it - it could have been anyone of us who chucked a portion of our lives away in the way that he did - if you were around in the 1960's that sort of foolishness was all too prevalent - if the dope dealer had got us on the right night, who knows? I wish him a the strength to make good his recovery.

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: number 6
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 03:51 PM

It's a good programme on Davey Graham ... I certainly feel he deserve the accolades.

sIx

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: stevi
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 05:37 PM

Did DG PLAY anji with his guitar tuned in DADGAD
does anyone know?

steve

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 22 Aug 05 - 06:34 PM

I believe Angie was pre-DADGAD.

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 04:07 AM

1)Charlie, as ever I tingle with anticipation!
2)Pete, yes I taped it, if MCP's offer isn't taken up I can dub you a tape.{Im in Greece for a fortnight from 9th Sept).
Congatulations to you & commiserations to Charlotte!

RtS

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 04:28 PM

Davy definitely played Angi in standard tuning, and with a capo at the 3rd fret - I believe.

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: number 6
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 07:28 PM

Davey didn't arrive at the DADGAD until a few years after Anji was recorded ... BTW, Davey renamed the song from Angi to Anji in the 70's. Just a bit of trivia from that BeeB broadcast.

sIx

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: stevi
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 03:10 PM

thanks guy's i used to play it quite a lot (standard tuning) but not with a capo will have to try that though.

steve

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 07:39 AM

Please name me one blues performer who was using DADGAD 30 years before?!

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 03:13 PM

give in!
who was it?

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 08:41 AM

There wasn't one 'Number 6!'

Subject: RE: Davey Graham programme on BBC radio
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 06:46 PM

maybe Geof Muldaur - I'd rather be the Devil