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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Abby Sale
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 10:55 PM

KC,

Very glad you & Kathi are ok. Was concerned. Not a fun way to spend your days.

I'm sure you'll be ok financially - you should be earning hundreds of thousands of dollars as your share of the new Boarding Party CD alone.    My copy arrived today and it's as good as the others - that means Superb.


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Sep 05 - 08:02 PM

Thanks for the news! I'd been wondering about them, as we approach tomorrow's pas de deux with Rita.


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Tinker
Date: 23 Sep 05 - 07:49 PM

Well I got a call from Pappa Gator today and he drove right on up here and he played for a while and and left with my Washburn to hold him over for a while. He plays so fine I almost broke down and handed him my Martin...BG... How come meeting Mudcatter's is nearly always like meeting kin ??? A friend has checked his house and the pecan trees seem to have been damaged, but the roof still looked pretty intact. The downed limbs definately put a chain saw on the shopping list before heading home... Definately have to meet up more often.

Tinker


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Janie
Date: 23 Sep 05 - 08:48 AM

Glad you posted, KC. I've been through a serious flood, but nothing like the devastation you all have endured. Let us know how we can help.

Janie


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: ship*scat
Date: 23 Sep 05 - 07:19 AM

Its late to post a reply here but these past few weeks have been a hectic, disoriented time. Among the Catters in New Orleans are members of the N.O. Quarter Shanty Krewe (all entendres intended) including KC King (yours truely), Kathi King, Don Keller, Keith & Francis Fawcett, Keith Hurt, Tom Henehan, Bob Pool, Gigi Taylor, Lanny Goldfinch. We haven't heard from Tom but everyone else seems to have escaped with a 3-day change of underwear.

Some have returned already to find trees through the roof and somebody's eleses hot tub in their back yard but most are spread out all over the country in various 5-star regugee camps. Kathi & I made it to her brother's in Thousand Oaks, CA - talk about a cultural divide!

A few of us have lost everything. Our insurance adjuster said we might not see him for months - many months. I've got 2 Wheatstones, a Lachenal baritone, two hammered dulcimers and a Vega White Laydie 5-string banjo (cira 1920) in the attic. Don't know if the mold has made it up there but we were under 9 feet of water for the better part of 3 weeks. Yesterday's surprise? Flood insurance won't begin to replace them.

The good news is that we're both working. Now if we could only find some dancing or sessions ... and a wee English concertina ...

Five months ago I qualified for and have been volunteering as a walking tour guide in the French Quarter and some of the older cemetaries. It's helped me more fullty appreciate that his city is an indescribably beautiful and unique gem of history and culture - our Emerald Jewel of the South. It is more different than you can possibly imagine from any other place on the planet. Only a living, smelly, messy New Orleans can ensure that such a heritage belongs to everyone and makes everyone the better for it.


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Sep 05 - 04:57 PM

I was looking earlier but found nothing about adopting animals from that area. The humane society is out trying to rescue some of the pets. Anyone hear anything about that yet? We've heard stories about pet dogs taken away from people before they board the buses. That will just about make their agony complete, I would think.


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 09:31 PM

"This may seem ridiculous, but would it be possible for the ministers in the churches, temples & synagogues across America to rally their flocks to open their homes & sponsor or "adopt" Americans in just such situations? I hear alot of "love thy neighbor" stuff, but I rarely see it in action. Seems like the power of the pulpit could solve many of the aftermath problems of the hurricane victims. Or is this too simple?"

Actually a lot of that is going on right now. I'll try to get back on in the next few days to tell you about it - but right now it's bath time for my four year old.


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: GUEST,Sharon
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 09:24 AM

Thanks for the info. I had also thought of the adoption idea.... it's probably what should happen in a caring society.


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Kaleea
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 03:30 AM

Some friends of mine said they were told it would be at least 3 months before they will be allowed in. I am wondering where the evacuated people-if they can get evacuated-will go to live, and on what-since many have lost everything they own as well as their employment since there won't be much of anyplace to be employed for months. It seems to me that many thousands of Americans will be literally destitute. How can people who live paycheck to paycheck (as most Americans do) recover from something like this?
      This may seem ridiculous, but would it be possible for the ministers in the churches, temples & synagogues across America to rally their flocks to open their homes & sponsor or "adopt" Americans in just such situations? I hear alot of "love thy neighbor" stuff, but I rarely see it in action. Seems like the power of the pulpit could solve many of the aftermath problems of the hurricane victims. Or is this too simple?


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 11:56 PM

Interesting reading in that paper. Several places were down whe I conducted my search, and I expect quite a few web sites will go away for a while unless they find other locations where they can be hosted. Infrastructure is necessary to run servers.

SRS


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 11:47 PM

I passed through Crystal Springs ~ stopped there for gas and/or food if I remember right ~ and was very surprised that power outages had exended that far north. Nothing too serious, though; just one inconvenient night in a few scattered neighborhoods.

Bobert, I had thought several times over the past few days that I might very well be able to make it to West Point, but it's not gonna happen. Sorry. We're already well north of all of Mississippi and headed east-northeast soon.

Maybe just maybe I'll see you in Luray on the way home, whenever they let us back into the city to see what might be left on our property. You'll be right on our usual route for that trip. We've made many trips between New Jersey and New Orleans over the years, passing right through that area.


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: artbrooks
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 10:35 PM

Sharon, it looks like Crystal Springs has some power outages, but nothing much else is mentioned in the local paper.


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 10:27 PM

Yo, P-Gator....

Come to West Point, Ms., tomorrow (Friday) fir the Howlin' Wolf Festival...

See you there...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Joybell
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 10:12 PM

PoppaGater! Thank you for checking in. Joy


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 07:17 PM

It looks like Crystal Springs is up near Jackson, Mississippi. A lot of disaster relief staging is happening up there. Hard to tell how hard the area was hit, CS is to the south of Jackson. Nothing came up in a search so far.

Good luck in learning more.

SRS


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: GUEST,sharon
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 05:20 PM

i am not sure if this is an appropriate place to ask this, but does anybody know if crystal springs, mississippi has been affected ? I can't get any info online.


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 03:27 PM

Glad to see you guys found the thread I started a couple of hours ago ~ I just tried to find it and couldn't. Probably because I'm a bit rattled.

We are well taken care of by our old friend here in Paducah. In a few days, we'll probably move on to my mother's house in New Jersey.

Anyone in New York, please go out tonight to see my son Cassidy's comedy show at the $1 Room at the Telephone Bar near Tompkins Square Park on the lower east side. (Google either name for a map ~ I'm not bothering to find and set up a blue-clicky link right this minute.)

I don't know how funny he'll be able to be, but I'm sure he'll have some things to say. We'e counting on him to make it big and support us in our old age (**grin**), so he needs all he audience he can get.


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 02:42 PM

PoppaGator started this thread a little while ago. He is in Paducah, as you surmised.

SRS


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 02:18 PM

P has posted in the music threads

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 12:42 PM

Blood will show somewhere eventually! Having grown up in and amongst the Mennonite community I'm familiar with their volunteer disaster relief programs. So this time I'm primarily donating to them. (If I had the money, I'd pitch it right and left to everyone visible.)

Anyway, here is their website:

Mennonite Disaster Relief


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 12:23 PM

I didn't see where PoppaGator indicated where he has found refuge in any the Tweedsblues threads to which he's posted (like this one). But note that the post header indicates that the message came from "---.paduca01.ky.comcast.net" which would be in Paduca, Kentucky. No guarantee that's where he is, just that it's the ISP for whatever computer he used, but it's a pretty good bet.


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: KateG
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 12:22 PM

I liked Janie's idea of giving to the Red Cross now, which we've done, because they're the folks on the scene coping with the immediate emergency needs and then later giving to smaller local agencies who can assess the needs of specific individuals.

The FEMA website had a good point about giving cash contributions to agencies on site rather than sending stuff. Sending stuff creates logistical problems with regard to warehousing and distribution, while cash can be used to buy specifically what is needed, and is often spent in or close to the affected area which helps to rebuild the economy.


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: bflat
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 11:26 AM

There is much expected from the folks who will and are working to improve the conditions in the aftermath. How they will find the strength, mental and physical will challenge the most resolute. Giving money is the least I can do to help alleviate the suffering.

Ellen


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 11:26 AM

Where is PoppaGator? Assuming he won't be able to return to New Orleans for a while, does he have someplace to say for the duration? It sounded like a lot of the family he thought he could stay with in the region might be in pretty bad shape themselves right now.

Cokie Roberts was just on the Diane Rehm Show last hour. Her mother, Lindy Boggs, lives in the French Quarter, but evacuated and is now with Cokie. But her siblings and members of her father's family, who lived along the Mississippi Gulf Coast have lost six of the eight homes they inhabited down there. Not everyone is going to be so well-connected or established financially to be able to get reestablished in their next homes. Good luck to PoppaGator is sorting it all out and finding his next home.

SRS


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Wesley S
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 11:12 AM

I keep thinking that if everyone that ever spent time in the French Quarter sent the amount of money that they spent on liquor during their visit we'd have the relief efforts taken care of in no time. Or is that just wishful thinking ?


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Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 11:03 AM

Bob,

The Red Cross is maintaining a database to help establish the locations of everyone they contact and to hopefully reunite families. They ask for donations of cash so they can purchase precisely what is needed, and they try to purchase goods as close to the scene of the disaster as possible. It's a good place to send some money. This said, your idea to send something with your friend isn't a bad one. (Bearing in mind how much he can take or carry).

Who is your Coast Guard friend likely to come into contact with? He may be working in an area that has been completely evacuated. What kinds of supplies are likely to be available to him while he is detailed down there? Does the simple fact that he's going into the middle of a disaster help you evaluate what might be best sent? Consider sending things that will help his comfort and he can share if the opportunity arises.

If I were you I would go down to REI and put together a CARE package. I'd buy the following (I was going to use a paragraph, but I'll list it so it's easy to sort out)
  • some water purification materials and
  • a couple of really solid plastic water bottles with wide mouths
  • a good insect repellent,
  • tubes of first aid ointment (polysporin, hydrocortisone, calamine) because if he's an electrician he's going to be outside and he's going to be coming face to face with fire ants, wasps, other biting and stinging insects that seem to like electrical equipment. Add to the bag good
  • durable bandaids,
  • a pack of moleskin, and buy him
  • some good thick cotton socks. Add some
  • non-greasy sunscreen, and find
  • a few cotton bandanas and an
  • absorbent hat with a bill.

    The late summer in the South is hot and muggy. Prickly heat doesn't sound like a big deal but it can drive you nuts. I'd find a
  • smallish bottle with a spray nozzle that can be used to spritz the face and neck or clothing, and is also a good way to deliver a simple insect repellent of a few drops of
  • vanilla in the water. (It's as effective as DEET and a lot better for you).

    Put this in some kind of
  • solid pack or cordura nylon bag that won't mildew or rot and that can be shaped to fit into a duffle or larger pack.

    I hope this helps!

    Maggie


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: katlaughing
    Date: 01 Sep 05 - 10:54 AM

    MMario, thanks for letting us know about poppagator. Giving thanks that he and his family are okay.

    As for money donations, I heard on NPR, yesterday, that the Red Cross is already set up to serve hundreds of thousands of meals, per day, so it would seem to me giving to them, at the moment, would be best. As has been pointed out, spending money on anything right there is impossible for now.

    SRS, I think you are right about Dubya...I certainly hope so.

    kat


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: InOBU
    Date: 01 Sep 05 - 10:34 AM

    Great news Poppagator's OK... terrible days down there, our hearts in NY go out to all of youse.
    lor


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: Tannywheeler
    Date: 01 Sep 05 - 10:24 AM

    There's probably not going to be much to buy or places to buy for a while. Stores wiped out, gas in short/un- supply. May be some transport out to less affected areas to be paid for. Maybe his group should put together some basic supplies (and keep a line open at their home base for more) for folks to look after themselves. They should pay attention to where there are long-term "emergency" shelters being put to use. Texas has churches and public facilities going into service for this thing.

    I'm a Liberal Dem. since before I was born. My grandfather was a Debs Socialist. I believe Geo. Bush is a serious error, and his war in Iraq a criminal act, but I have always maintained that 99% of our persons in uniform give us better service than we deserve when we send them out to do something--and even when we haven't. God Bless the U.S. Coast Guard.         Tw


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: Bee-dubya-ell
    Date: 01 Sep 05 - 10:20 AM

    PoppaGator has posted to some threads over at Tweedsblues.net. He's ok. Probably hasn't posted here 'cause the 'Cat's been down.


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: Janie
    Date: 01 Sep 05 - 10:14 AM

    I'm asking myself the same question right now, Bob. Donate to the Red Cross, or the Episcopal relief fund?

        For now, I am inclined to think that donations to the big relief agencies is most helpful. They will be the best equipped to get help to people fast in terms of basic needs, and are coordinating with other emergency response agencies. Later on, when people begin to try to put their lives back together, I think small, local or independent agencies can be more helpful. By that time, there is a greater need for "case-by-case" evaluation of needs, and there are more likely to be specific needs that mass programs are not designed to meet.
        I will probably send a check now to the Red Cross, and in a few months to my Church's relief fund where it can be distributed by local parishes familiar with the individual needs of the people in their communities.
        One idea I am going to propose to my extended family is that we do not buy Christmas presents this year, and instead make donations to help with the aftermath of Katrina. Don't about the rest of you, but we are financially very limited, and doing this will really increase the $$ that we can donate.

    Janie


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: MMario
    Date: 01 Sep 05 - 10:06 AM

    If I knew someone going into the area I would whom I trusted I would probably give them cash to distribute as they saw fit. The paperwork is going to be slow, slow, slow on this.


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: Deckman
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 04:15 PM

    Here's a delemma. I have a neighbor who is active duty Coast Guard, here in the Seattle area. He has volunteered to go to that region. His official assignment would be to help re-build Coast Guard facilities: stations, landmarks, reference points, etc. He is an electrician.

    Here's the question: Would it be better to give him some cash to distribute personlly to those he sees in need, or would it be better to send the money to one of the big relief agencies, such as the red cross. I value all your opinions. Bob(deckman)Nelson


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: Stilly River Sage
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 04:13 PM

    CNN had several officals on just now and they're specuating that tens of thousands died in New Orleans alone. They're basing this on the numbers they think evacuated (80%) leaving behind (I heard something around 200,000 to 300,000--I can't be sure). And someone said they think 1/3 of those drowned.

    I hope this is simply a bureaucrat with a hyperactive pencil.

    There is an incredible depression that is beginning to settle in. Every couple of days I drive past the big GSA depot here in Fort Worth and look at a sea of FEMA house trailers--but they will probably empty fast, and are suddenly a paultry number in the face of this disaster. Here we civilians are in the state next door, but with no way to really help except throw money at the problem. This just doesn't feel like enough, but going there would be an act of insanity.

    Too bad the billions that could be used here at home in this situation have been thrown to Halliburton and others over in Iraq to fight an immoral war. The connection is going to be made again and again as the totals go up in the coming days and weeks and months.

    Dubya has just met his Rubicon.

    SRS


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: nutty
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 04:00 PM

    We have had amazing pictures of prisoners being lined up on a stretch of motorway as the jail is flooded.
    Anyone any idea when they will be evacuated and where to??


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: Rapparee
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 03:52 PM

    The governor of LA and the mayor of NO both are called for the city to be evacuated. It would be 6 to 8 weeks before anyone would be allowed back in.

    Should that happen, there will probably ba a "shoot" order in effect afterwards.


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: sapper82
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 03:50 PM

    Don, Thank God someone is talking sense. If not taken and used, most of the food being "looted" will probably end up as an Insurance Write-off and dumped.


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: Don Firth
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 03:43 PM

    I heard an interview on NPR this morning with someone in a law enforcement agency in New Orleans. He said that they are not stopping looters because most of the looting is taking place in grocery stores. "These people have to eat," he said, "and we have no way of helping them rigth now. Also, if we were to arrest them, where would be put them? We have more important concerns at the moment."

    Don Firth


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 03:31 PM

    I'm sure the "looters" who are stealing TV sets (which are probably damaged anyway)are probably fewer than the media puts on. It makes for better viewing to watch someone carry away a TV set then it is to watch a mother stealing a can of food for her children.


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: Bill D
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 10:56 AM

    you've got to wonder about looters who are stealing TV sets, when there's not likely to be any power for months.....clothes...maybe...canned goods, sure, I see why. Canned peaches are better than stale water.

    And remember, most of the police have lost THEIR homes also, and no doubt the jails have their own problems without a couple thousand looters to feed.....if the jail is above water. (Now THERE'S an evacuation problem!)


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: John MacKenzie
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 10:54 AM

    I always say the the first thing I would grab before I left the house in a fire or similar event would be my D28.
    Giok


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: Wesley S
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 10:27 AM

    On NBC news last night they showed a man digging through what was left of his house. He found a battered guitar case and said - "I don't care about my house - at least I have my git-tar". Then he pulled out what appeared to be a cutaway Alvarez and fired off - of course - a blues lick.

    If any man has a right to sing the blues - it's him.


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: katlaughing
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 09:34 AM

    Out here in the West, we always wondered at the people who built right on the river and creek banks. We knew they'd either get flooded or washed out, eventually. Of course, it was handy to be near the water when you lived off the land, ate fish, had to haul your water, etc.

    I hope we hear from poppagator and others as soon as they are able. I've also been wondering how another friend of poppa's and mine, Spencer Bohren, and family have done.

    Love and Light to all,

    kat


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 09:31 AM

    Keep in mind that not all the looters are stealing for profit. I saw a grocery store being looted, and I would imagine that people are just trying to survive.   Sure, there are those that will see opportunity in such tragedy, but don't lump everyone together when you see a picture on the news. Not everyone is low life scum, some are just trying to make it through the day.


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: Cluin
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 09:26 AM

    Why do people build on deltas, flood plains, fault lines, sink holes, volcanoes, etc.? Because that's where they live. First they build farms or ports or forts or mines, then they build towns and cities.

    Maybe they'll call Aug 30, 2005 Mardi Mouillé.


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: John MacKenzie
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 09:05 AM

    I agree Curator about the guy who had lost his wife, it brought tears to my eyes, I don't think I ever heard anybody sound so mournful.
    Giok


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: Rapparee
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 09:02 AM

    Nawlins was built where it is because it was a very convenient place for a seaport. The Mississippi, however, continued to carry dirt and eventually the mouth was so clogged up that the Corps of Engineers had to cut a channel to keep NO a seaport.

    About the same time, bogs were drained to reduce the problem of Yellow Fever (and other diseases). As the bogs dried, the land subsided.

    But it's the river that causes the most problems. You see, the Mississippi doesn't want to flow by the Big Easy any more -- it wants to roil down the Atchafalia (and I probably spelled that wrong). So the NO city father, congressfolk, and people in general pressured the Corps of Engineers into finding some way to keep the city a seaport and the Mighty Miss flowing by the Cafe du Monde.

    The Corps did. They built the Atchafalaya (I checked the spelling) Dam and the Old River Structure. This forces the river to continue down its original channel, right by the French Quarter, instead of flowing down the middle of Louisiana like it wants to.

    I suggest you check out the Wikipedia articles.


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: The Curator
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 08:53 AM

    Good point M Ted. Can man ever built a defence against such things happening ? I doubt it.


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: M.Ted
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 08:46 AM

    Just hike over to the Netherlands and ask them why they've built cities on the polders, Curator--on good days, we tend to tout "Man's triumph over nature", on the bad days, well.......


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: The Curator
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 08:27 AM

    Sad news, our hearts go out to those poor people. That guy Jackson that spoke on the television news about his wife was one of the saddest things I have ever seen. Could someone please explain why such a city was ever built 12 feet below sea level ? Water will always find it's own level. They are all in our thoughts in Ireland.


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: GUEST,Dani
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 07:49 AM

    When I was in Charleston after Hugo, the edict that was passed down about looters was, "Shoot 'em. We got nowhere to put 'em if we do catch 'em, and better things to do."

    Dani


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: jacqui.c
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 07:42 AM

    Giok - from watching the news I would guess that looters are pretty far down the list of police priorities. They are probably more preoccupied with finding and saving as many people as possible right now.

    News crews, on the other hand have only one thing to do, find anything that can be considered 'appetising' to the watching public. Since they are probably not allowed too close to the areas where the danger is still great thay will look for whatever else they can.

    Let's hope that, once the initial crisis is over, the authorities have a chance to watch the film footage and maybe catch one or two of the looters. probably a bit of a naive hope but you never know.

    Best of luck to all the Mudcatters in the area, I hope they all got out in time.


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: Joybell
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 06:03 AM

    It surely looks so bad. Hope you and yours are safe PoppaGater. Thinking of you. Joy


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: John MacKenzie
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 04:01 AM

    How come the TV crews can film the looters but the cops can't catch them, this is sick! There are people in danger and all these low life scum can think of is stealing.
    Giok


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: M.Ted
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 12:42 AM

    No communication is possible right now--power, phones, and cell phones are all out--I am sure PoppaGator and company evacuated, though, as he is a fairly pragmatic sort--I hope he took his instruments--Everybody, we know you're out there somewhere-- all prayers are with you--


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: GUEST
    Date: 31 Aug 05 - 12:25 AM

    I fear PoppaGator has lost his home....These are dark times for the Delta.


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    Subject: RE: New Orleans Catters?
    From: GUEST
    Date: 30 Aug 05 - 10:16 PM

    All are sittin high dry and livin sassy just prayin the waders go down before the bourbon tanks fur axin


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    Subject: New Orleans Catters?
    From: Anglo
    Date: 30 Aug 05 - 09:42 PM

    Anyone have news as to the well being of PoppaGator, KC King, and other members of the New Orleans Shantey Krewe; or indeed any other catters in the vicinity?

    This seems to be turning into a far bigger disaster than it seemed yesterday as Katrina came through.


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