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I wish I'd written that (songs)

Linda Kelly 13 Apr 04 - 04:55 PM
Mudlark 13 Apr 04 - 10:02 PM
GUEST,Augie 13 Apr 04 - 10:25 PM
Stephen L. Rich 13 Apr 04 - 11:03 PM
George Papavgeris 14 Apr 04 - 02:50 AM
GUEST,Lindswidder 14 Apr 04 - 12:56 PM
SueB 14 Apr 04 - 03:20 PM
YorkshireYankee 14 Apr 04 - 04:58 PM
MoorleyMan 14 Apr 04 - 05:44 PM
C-flat 14 Apr 04 - 06:46 PM
GUEST,Lindswidder 14 Apr 04 - 06:56 PM
black walnut 14 Apr 04 - 07:13 PM
GUEST,Augie 14 Apr 04 - 08:29 PM
Moses 15 Apr 04 - 09:09 AM
black walnut 15 Apr 04 - 09:56 AM
alanabit 15 Apr 04 - 10:59 AM
Moses 16 Apr 04 - 03:46 AM
GUEST,leeneia 16 Apr 04 - 12:00 PM
Big Mick 19 Apr 04 - 11:37 PM
GUEST,Sandy Andina 25 Jul 04 - 08:29 PM
jacqui.c 26 Jul 04 - 04:07 AM
GUEST,judetheshepherd 26 Jul 04 - 01:49 PM
PoppaGator 26 Jul 04 - 03:09 PM
Big Al Whittle 26 Jul 04 - 07:54 PM
GUEST,fifer 27 Jul 04 - 02:37 PM
mg 27 Jul 04 - 03:44 PM
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Cluin 03 Dec 04 - 08:37 AM
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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 13 Apr 04 - 04:55 PM

'DIAMONDS AND RUST' Joan Baez
'THE DEATH OF QUEEN JANE' traditional
'NORMANDY ORCHARDS ' Keith Marsden
'FAREWELL TO TARWATHIE' George Scroggie
'RECONCILIATION' Ron Kavana
'Senzinina' Traditional South African
'THE SCARLET TIDE' Elvis Costello

I've sung a lot of them, but hardly do justice to these wonderful songs.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Mudlark
Date: 13 Apr 04 - 10:02 PM

GuestLindswidder: Cleo Laine a phenomenal singer.

So many good songs here. I'd add Michael Smith's "Time" and Steve Goodman's "THE DUTCHMAN." Also, the May Song, as sung by Cynthia Gooding, and QUEEN ELEANOR'S CONFESSION, and all the wonderful shanties, like GO TO SEA NO MORE" and "I've been a Sea Cook." A couple of Small Potatoes songs "QUARTZITE" and "WALTZ OF THE WALLFLOWERS." But I agree, this thread is liable to reach the thousands! The more one thinks of, the more one (me!) wants to add.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: GUEST,Augie
Date: 13 Apr 04 - 10:25 PM

Good choices Mudlark although "The Dutchman" is also a Michael Smith composition, not SG. For primo Goodman, try "ONE BITE OF THE APPLE" or "WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEARN TO DANCE?".


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 13 Apr 04 - 11:03 PM

"HYMN SONG" by Bruce "U. Utah" Phillips

Stephen Lee


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 02:50 AM

Stan Rogers: "LIES", "THE FIELD BEHIND THE PLOW", "THE LAST WATCH"
Dave Webber: "Obby Oss", "PARTING SONG"
Graeme Miles: "WHERE RAVENS FEED"
Heck, I could be here for hours - so much good stuff...


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: GUEST,Lindswidder
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 12:56 PM

oh - and "(If I Could Put) TIME IN A BOTTLE" - which I think was a song by Jim Croce...?


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Subject: Lyr Add: CAREY (Joni Mitchell)
From: SueB
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 03:20 PM

I noticed that someone was looking for info on Joni Mitchell's Carey way back when, one of my favorite songs, and noticed it hasn't made it into the Digitrad yet, so...

CAREY
As recorded by Joni Mitchell on "Blue" (1971)

1. The wind is in from Africa; last night I couldn't sleep.
Oh, you know it sure is hard to leave here, Carey, but it's really not my home.
My fingernails are filthy, I've got beach tar on my feet,
And I miss my clean white linen and my fancy French cologne.

Oh, Carey, get out your cane, (Carey, get out your cane.)
And I'll put on some silver. (I'll put on some silver.)
Oh, you're a mean old daddy, but I like you... fine.

2. Come on down to the Mermaid Cafe and I will buy you a bottle of wine,
And we'll laugh and toast to nothing and smash our empty glasses down.
Let's have a round for these freaks and these soldiers, a round for these friends of mine.
Let's have another round for the bright red devil who keeps me in this tourist town.

Come on, Carey; get out your cane. (Carey, get out your cane.)
I'll put on some silver. (I'll put on some silver.)
Oh, you're a mean old daddy, but I like you.
I like you; I like you; I like you.

3. Maybe I'll go to Amsterdam or maybe I'll go to Rome
And rent me a grand piano and put some flowers 'round my room,
But let's not talk about fare-thee-wells now; the night is a starry dome,
And they're playin' that scratchy rock 'n' roll beneath the Matala moon.

Come on, Carey; get out your cane, (Carey, get out your cane.)
And I'll put on some silver. (I'll put on some silver.)
You're a mean old daddy, but I like you.

4. The wind is in from Africa; last night I couldn't sleep.
Oh, you know it sure is hard to leave here, but it's really not my home.
Maybe it's been too long a time since I was ramblin' down in the street.
Now they got me used to that clean white linen and that fancy French cologne.

Oh, Carey, get out your cane. (Carey, get out your cane.)
I'll put on my finest silver, (I'll put on my finest silver.)
Go to the Mermaid Cafe, have fun tonight.
I said, oh, you're a mean old daddy, but you're out of sight.


I believe she used a DADGAD tuning for this and then to play with the album you also have to tune all the strings down a half step.
Anyway, it's in the key of D.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 04:58 PM

"LIES" by Stan Rogers
I know it's already been mentioned, but it's SO good... took me months to be able to sing it without choking up at the end

"CHRISTMAS IN THE TRENCHES" by John McCutcheon

"THE BROKEN TOKEN" by Mike Agranoff
I love making people laugh...

"THERE WERE ROSES" by Tommy Sands
Yes, I know that one's already been mentioned, too, but it is so moving.

And so many more...

YY


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 05:44 PM

Ain't that interesting?
Agree with both Yorkshire Yankee and El Greko re Stan Rogers' Lies. Like YY, it took me a long time to get composed enough to actually sing it, it's so moving.
Thanks, El Greko, I'd agree in adding Graeme Miles' Where Ravens Feed to that category too. And have done!
Then we've got Ewan's JOY OF LIVING. And Dave Webber's Parting Song.
And some of El Greko's own too, come to that .....
Then there's any number of Richard Thompson songs - BEESWING, 1952 VINCENT BLACK LIGHTNING, WITHERED AND DIED, THE POOR DITCHING BOY for starters.
Robin Williamson's FIRST GIRL I LOVED and OCTOBER SONG.
Dylan - TOMORROW IS A LONG TIME.
Joni Mitchell's BOTH SIDES NOW.
And of course so many by the true original Morley Man, Keith Marsden !

The list could go on and on. There's so many that we humble singers try to do justice to (right on, Linda - love your singing too!), and sure, in doing so we might fail - albeit honourably.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: C-flat
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 06:46 PM

If I had to name just one song, I would probably go for WINTER SONG by Lindisfarne.
Great lyrics, good message and a beautifully crafted piece of music.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: GUEST,Lindswidder
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 06:56 PM

and "THE MYSTERY OF OWLD TOM'S GRAVE" by Allan Smethurst (The Singing Postman). During the 1980s in North Oxfordshire I had a bit of a reputation for singing his lesser-known songs and bringing them to the attention of a quite appreciative audience - and even though I first heard this song in 1968 and regularly sang it between 1982 and 1993 I still cannot even think about it without getting the lump in the throat............


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: black walnut
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 07:13 PM

I wish I'd written MIRABEAU BRIDGE, but Sam Larkin got that muse.

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: GUEST,Augie
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 08:29 PM

"...the children of your body, spread out across this earth
Like messages, written across time
Measuring the years."

from Kate Wolf's song "POET'S HEART"


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Moses
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 09:09 AM

All El Greco's choices and:-

"THE BLACKBIRD" and "MAY SONG" - Dave Webber
"Holy Wine" [= "A CASE OF YOU"] - Joni Mitchell
"THE MARY ELLEN CARTER" - Stan Rogers
"THANKSGIVING EVE" (already mentioned) - Bob Franke
"AND THE BAND PLAYED WALTZING MATILDA" - Eric Bogle
"BEESWING" - Richard Thompson

Just a sample, there are so many more


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: black walnut
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 09:56 AM

Oh, and every David Francey song.

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: alanabit
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 10:59 AM

Is that "Holy Wine" title another song, or does it refer to "A CASE OF YOU" from Blue?


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Moses
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 03:46 AM

Sorry, yes it is "A case of you" from Blue. (Not got brain into gear and not at home to check album).


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 12:00 PM

The song that Martin Wyndham Read sings that starts

The hill are clad purple, and the trees are clad in gold.
The autumn wind is sighing for a beauty growing old.
The grey grouse in the heather and the wild deer in the glen
are longing for the summer when they'll see their joy again.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Big Mick
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 11:37 PM

You want lyrics? You should give a listen to some of the songs written by our own KT.

Love Song For A Mother - a wondrous song about the time in Kath's adolescence when she was with her Mom at church and realized her Mother's faith.

It's a Dog's Life - written from the perspective of her beloved friend, her dog.

Wondrous Gift of Love.

I wish I had the gift this woman has. And .... we just might get to meet her at Getaway.

Mick


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: GUEST,Sandy Andina
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 08:29 PM

ON THE ROAD TO FAIRFAX COUNTY--David Massengill
DETROIT OR BUFFALO--Barbara Keith
THE BRAMBLE AND THE ROSE--Barbara Keith
LIES--Stan Rogers
FORTY-FIVE YEARS--Stan Rogers
Electricity--Joni Mitchell
REQUIEM FOR THE MASSES--The Association
THE GREAT MANDALA--Peter, Paul, & Mary
Mr. Arthur's Place--Thom Bishop
SPOON RIVER--Michael Smith
PENDLE HILL--Anne Hills
These Cowboys Born Out of Their Time--Tom Dundee
DRINKING BUDDY--Claudia Schmidt
THANKSGIVING EVE--Bob Franke
CHESTNUT TREE--Reilly & Maloney
KEEP ME IN YOUR HEART--Warren Zevon
THE SCOTSMAN--Michael Cross
I WILL--Lennon & McCartney
BOREDOM--John Sebastian
BLESS THESE STREETS--Jill Dawson


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: jacqui.c
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 04:07 AM

THE FIRST TIME EVER I SAW YOUR FACE
VINCENT
KATHY'S SONG


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: GUEST,judetheshepherd
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 01:49 PM

It's a line as much as the whole song, and not really from the folk world. From the Waterboys' "The whole of the moon":-

I saw the rain-dirty valley
You saw Brigadoon

Now that's what I call imagery!


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: PoppaGator
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 03:09 PM

Somewhere way up thise thread, someone mentioned "Begin the Beguine" and didn't know the composer.

It's Cole Porter; not a folk-music (type not hardly!), but one helluva songwriter -- a devilishly clever lyricist, and no slouch with melodies and chord progressions, either.

I'd be glad to take credit for just about any piece of his.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 07:54 PM

I was always partial to The Farting Song that Dave Turner used to sing.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: GUEST,fifer
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 02:37 PM

If you have never heard "THE FARM AUCTION" written by Enoch Kent, and preferably the version sung by him, Please take the opportunity to do so!
If you are not moved by it, you must be dead from the neck up. Super melody, with lyrics to match


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: mg
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 03:44 PM

The one I always think, gee I wish I'd written that is THE TOWN I LOVED SO WELL by Phil Coulter. I was having coffee with Pat Humphries and Susan L. at Folk Alliance many years ago and Pat asked us what kind of songs we wished we could write. I wish I could write songs like her that are great to sing and hopeful etc..(and have choruses that are great). did she write "we will rise like the morning we will rise like the sun?" ["COMMON THREAD"] I get her stuff mixed up with other people but I wish I could write inspirational songs. But I will say the songs I have written have very good people in them, stalwart etc....not on purpose..they just are...mg


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: GUEST,Guest Baillie
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 10:59 AM

I wish I'd written that song by Tom Bliss 'The Violin', but sadly my talents will only run to stuff like 'The Ballad of the Assistant Banana Ripening Manager' ...never mind eh?


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: wanderhope
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 02:10 PM

GRACELAND


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: GUEST,Sheila
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 09:22 PM

Almost anything by Jim Croce, and a lot of Simon and Garfunkel.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Jeep man
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 09:41 PM

How about great lines within a song? Mine would be,"God Bless Little Chldren Before They Learn to Hate". (Tom T Hall, "Old Dogs and Children and Watermelon Wine". Jim


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Bill the Collie
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 09:44 PM

Happy birthday to you.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: GUEST,14fret
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 06:42 AM

'WHITE CHRISTMAS'. I'd have made some money!


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Cluin
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 08:37 AM

A few years ago, James Keelaghan had a songwriter's show on CBC Radio. One of the running challenges on the show for the guests he'd interview was to name and sing a song that they in fact wished they had written.

It made me think about which song I'd choose in that situation. There are so many worthy choices, but I guess I'd have gone with the host's own "RIVER RUN", my favourite Keelaghan song.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Auggie
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 09:06 AM

The Roads Are Long

"The roads are long in Canada
You're driving through the night.
You're washed in prarie moon and stars
You're bathing in their light,
And if God in Her heaven seems so far away,
At least you're assured that you're headed that way
And you're headed for someone who's asked you stay, and its right."


Bob Franke


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Cluin
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 09:31 AM

Oh yeah, and I'll say just about anything written by Bob Franke, too.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: RobbieWilson
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 09:48 AM

Have to agree with Harlow poet back in April Ewan McColl's THE FIRST TIME EVER I SAW YOUR FACE is the most fantastic song. Never mind writing it how about having a song like that written for you by your husband? Not only about you, but for you to sing. I am not aware of any recordings of Ewan McColl doing the song although an old woman at Bromyard Folk Festival said she had seen him do it Live in Birmingham shortly after he wrote it.

Talking of say it all in a few words I don't think you can beat Robbie Burns, MY LOVE IS LIKE A RED, RED ROSE, and YE BANKS AND BRAES O' BONNIE DOON both very short, leave nothing else to say and not a single word wasted.

Pete Morton sings a song called SYLVIA which is like a stripped down version of the much better known Sovay as sung by Martin Carthy, among many.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: muppitz
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 10:15 AM

3, 5 & 6 of Moses' choices I agree with totally, but I would personally supersede them with:

BEESWING - Richard Thompson
WHEN MY MORNING COMES AROUND - Which I think is by Iris Dement
Tenterhooks - Jez Lowe

Tenterhooks is one of my favourite songs and it contains one of the most profound statements I have ever heard:

"Bad news has the wings; good news must dream of growing"

muppitz x


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: GUEST,bflat
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 02:53 PM

I have to agree with those who chose Ewan MacColl's THE FIRST TIME EVER I SAW YOUR FACE. It's my favorite love song. Otherwise, I like IF I HAD A HAMMER by Pete Seeger and Lee Hayes for my social conscience.

Ellen


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: alanabit
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 03:09 PM

Pete Morton's "Thanksgiving" is a beautiful meditation on the value of life as someone passes away. I will never write anything near as good. Most of us can improve as craftsmen. However, there are songs like that to remind us of the difference between a reasonable craftsman and a true artist. There is definitely something there which the rest of us can't do.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 04 Dec 04 - 03:29 PM

Be content with the songs God gives you to write. these lists of songs are all nice songs, great songs even. But who knows tomorrow you might, just by being you, find the great song that is within you.

To have written one of the great songs of our age of course would be nice. Solve many problems - financial and personal and maybe nobody will ask who does he think he is any more........

However i can't help but feel there is something essentially self defeating about lusting after another man's glory.

Admire the craftsmanship, originality etc by all means. But to have written that song you have to have been that man or woman, and nobody's as good at being you as you are. And isn't that what Mudcat's all about. We come together as individuals.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: alanabit
Date: 04 Dec 04 - 05:25 PM

I don't think anyone is lusting after anyone else's glory. We have some pretty distinguished writers here. They are simply admiring songs which they couldn't have written themselves. I think the title here is intended a little tongue cheek.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: alanabit
Date: 04 Dec 04 - 05:26 PM

...tongue in cheek, of course...


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Dec 04 - 05:53 PM

Al Stewart's "ROADS TO MOSCOW". It's a masterpiece.


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 04 Dec 04 - 06:53 PM

Try Andy Mitchells "CALUM MOORE" Mudcat's own Strupag. It contains insight and emotion beyond the normal. If I could ever write just one song. This would be it.

Spot the Dog (who now performs it in almost every set and has permission from Andy to do so.....Isn't Mudcat just wonderful when writer and performer can communicate this way.)


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: jaze
Date: 04 Dec 04 - 08:24 PM

RAGLAN ROAD
CORNFLOWER BLUE - Kate Wolf
LOVE SONG TO A STRANGER - Joan Baez
LOVE IS JUST A FOUR LETTER WORD - Dylan
COLD MISSOURI WATERS - James Keelaghan
OLD FRIENDS - Mary McCaslin
SPANISH IS THE LOVING TONGUE
and hundreds more


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Dec 04 - 08:58 PM

PACK UP YOUR SORROWS - Richard Farina


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: mg
Date: 04 Dec 04 - 11:34 PM

IF I NEEDED YOU by Townes Van Zandt..

FOLLOW ME by John Denver.

(Let us sing this song for) THE TURNING OF THE WORLD...Ruth Pelham

and of course, #1 remains THE TOWN I LOVED SO WELL.

mg


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: alanabit
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 03:46 AM

Thinking about weelittledrummer's post, I can say that there is not really a song of anyone else's which I would like to have written. It is a bit like Shakespeare. I am just very glad we have it.
The songs I most wish I had written, are those which go through my head at sometime, but which I can't get down on paper before they slip away. They might not have have been classics, but I would have liked to have got them anyway!


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 01:30 PM

LONESOME DOVE

Art


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Subject: RE: I wish I'd written that.
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 01:32 PM

CALIFORNIA JOE

Art


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