Subject: Sir Patrick Spence tune? From: reembar@hotmail.com Date: 05 Jan 99 - 03:51 PM I am looking for the tune of the ballad: Sir Patrick Spence The King sits in Dumferling toune, Drinking the blude-reide wine: "O whar will I get guid sailor, To sail this schip of mine?" Up and spak an eldern knicht, Sat at the kings richt kne: "Sir Patrick Spence is the best sailor That sails upon the se." The king has written a braid letter, And signd it wi his hand, And sent it to Sir Patrick Spence, Was walking on the sand. The first line that Sir Patrick red, A loud lauch lauched he; The next line that Sir Patrick red, The teir blinded his ee. "O wha is this has don this deid This ill deid don to me, To send me out this time o' the year To sail upon the se! "Mak hast, mak haste, my mirry men all, Our guid schip sails the morne:" "I say na sae, my master deir, For I feir a deadlie storme. "Late late yestreen I saw the new moone, Wi the auld moone in hir arme, And I feir, I feir, my deir master, That we will cum to harme." O our Scots nobles wer richt laith To weet their cor-heild schoone; Bot lang owre a' the play wer playd, Their hats they swam aboone. O long, lang may their ladies sit, Wi thair fans into their hand, Or eir they se Sir Patrick Spence Cum sailing to the land. O lang, lang may the ladies stand, Wi thair gold kems in their hair, Wating for thair ain deir lords, For they'll se thame na mair. Haf owre, haf owre to Aberdour, It's fiftie fadom deip. And thair lies guid Sir Patrick Spence, Wi the Scots lords at his feit. |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Date: 05 Jan 99 - 04:01 PM In DT file PATSPENS |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Susan of DT Date: 05 Jan 99 - 06:01 PM That's usually Sir Patrick SPENS, except in the modern, Coltman version, where it is Patrick SPENCER. Both are labeled #58 for the Child number and you can search for #58 to get both |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Bill Sables Date: 05 Jan 99 - 06:11 PM Nic Jones recorded this song in the early 70s. I'm not sure of the name of the album |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: rick fielding Date: 05 Jan 99 - 07:24 PM Just played a cut on my show this week by Martin Carthy. I'm afraid I've forgotten the title of the album but judging by the picture, it's a new one. Shouldn't be too hard to find. |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Jo Taylor Date: 05 Jan 99 - 07:28 PM Sir Patrick Spens was on Nic Jones' album 'Songs & Ballads'. |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Alan of Australia Date: 05 Jan 99 - 07:30 PM G'day, And also on the Fairport Convention album Full House. Like most Child ballads there are several different tunes. It also works as an epic poem.
Cheers, |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: jrharper@earthlink.net Date: 06 Jan 99 - 02:20 AM I like Fairport's version on "House Full" which is a live version. "Full House" is a seperate album that has a studio version by Fairport. |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Susan A-R Date: 06 Jan 99 - 09:30 PM I'm partial to Buffy St. Marie's version myself. |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Brian Hoskin Date: 07 Jan 99 - 02:56 AM Martin Carthy's version of Sir Patrick Spens is available on his latest album 'Signs of Life' It's also available on a sampler CD which comes free with the latest copy of Folk Roots magazine (Jan/Feb 1999), check out there website: http://www.froots.demon.co.uk/ Brian |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: katlaughing Date: 22 May 00 - 06:08 PM I have been working on learning this song and just wanted to note that Geoff Kaufman, of the Mystic Seaport (at least he was there a few years ago) did a really fine rendition of this song on his first tape called after the title track "Fair Stood the Wind." It is an excellent tape which came out in 1987. kat |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Snuffy Date: 22 May 00 - 07:22 PM See "Folkie" in the Digitrad
In "Sir Patrick Spens" I clean forgot the forty-second verse Wassail! V |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: kendall Date: 22 May 00 - 09:19 PM ..with a Moosehead bottle stamped behind my ear, and a voice that yelled "Dont play that shit in here.." |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Chocolate Pi Date: 22 May 00 - 11:02 PM there's a wonderful children's/young adult book, whose title and author I've completely forgotten, which tells the story from the perspective of Spens's daughter-in-law (I think). I can remember the picture on the cover and scenes from the book - the first line is "When I was seven, I hid under a table and watched my sister kill a king." Any 'Catter librarians know what I'm talking about? Chocolate Pi (spontaneous thermal isomerization of rhodopsin, whee!) |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Brendy Date: 23 May 00 - 05:10 AM There's a great line in it:- "The lift grew dark and the wind blew loud And gurly grew the sea." "Wind", pronounced like to 'wind' up a string I have an old recording of it somewhere here, but God knows where. B. |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Garry Gillard Date: 23 May 00 - 09:23 AM I'm glad this has come up again. I have recently spent certain hours of my life wrestling with Martin Carthy's version of Sir Patrick Spens on Signs of Life, the results of which struggle I document here. There are still great gaps. I would be grateful for assistance. Very grateful. thanks Garry |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Peter T. Date: 23 May 00 - 09:47 AM Rick Fielding modestly avoids mentioning his stunning version of Patrick Spencer on "This One's The Dreamer". Do yourself a big, big favour and check it out. yours, Peter T. |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Lesley N. Date: 23 May 00 - 05:34 PM I have a midi of one of the tunes from a songbook dated circa 1900. It's at Sir Patrick Spence (http://www.contemplator.com.com/child/spens.html). I don't think it's a very nice tune - but that's what was there!
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Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Fiolar Date: 24 May 00 - 01:28 PM Brian Peters did a cracking version. Its also to be found on the site www.mp3.com where there is a version by Glen William under the title "Sir Patrick Spens." Mike |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: GUEST,Rachel B. Date: 02 Jan 02 - 08:38 PM I am a high school senior and I am trying to find different versions of sir patrick spens for a project can u help me by telling where to find some I am having trouble Thanks Rachel |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: masato sakurai Date: 02 Jan 02 - 09:14 PM All the versions in Child's collection are HERE. ~Masato |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 02 Jan 02 - 09:24 PM Ah, yes: typed out by me, as it happens, together with the background notes. What you won't find is tunes for them, but I don't expect your teacher wants those. If he or she does, let us know and we'll tell you as much as we can. |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Melani Date: 03 Jan 02 - 12:17 AM The book Chocolate Pi mentioned is "Quest for A Maid," by Frances Mary Hendry. The actual first line is "When I was nine years old, I hid under a table and heard my sister kill a king." Great book, suitable for adults or kids. |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Steve Parkes Date: 03 Jan 02 - 05:35 AM There's a very amusing parody called "A new ballad of Sir Patrick Spens" by "Q" (Sir Arthur Quiller-Couch, 1863-1944). I can't remember all of it, and I can't find it on the 'Net, and Im in the throes of moving house, so my copy might be a long time in coming to light ... but it starts: The king sits in Dunferline toun Drinking the blude-red wine; "Oh wha'll rear me up an equilateral triangle Upon a gi'en straight line?" Then up and spoke an auld, auld man, Sat at the king's richt knee: "O' a' the clerks by Grantaside, Sir Patrick bears the 'gree. 'Twas he was taught by the Todhuntèr, Though not at the tod-hunting; But gif that he be gi'd a guid straight line, He'll dae sae braw a thing!" I'll have to post the rest when I can find it; although I can remember a lot more verses, I don't trust my memory. Steve |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: masato sakurai Date: 03 Jan 02 - 06:45 AM "Sir Patrick Spens [or Spence]" with music is in Norman Luboff & Win Stracke's songbook Songs of Man (Prentice-Hall, 1965, pp. 196-197). The text is from Scott (abridged); the tune is from Campbell (Bronson, vol. 2, p. 33 [no. 10]). Versions with different tunes are in Albert Friedman, The Viking Book of Folk Ballads (1956, p. 298); James Kinsley, The Oxford Book of Ballads (1969, p. 311); and John Anthony Scott, The Ballad of America (Bantam, 1966, p. 25). ~Masato |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Stilly River Sage Date: 03 Jan 02 - 04:27 PM Ed McCurdy has a nice version of this on one of his albums. |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: toadfrog Date: 03 Jan 02 - 09:38 PM Am I missing something? Seems like the short answer would be CLICK HERE |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: GUEST,Desdemona Date: 03 Jan 02 - 10:32 PM The Nic Jones arrangement cited above is much the best tune; Martin Carthy (my darling!) most recently recorded it on "Signs of Life". |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Garry Gillard Date: 04 Jan 02 - 10:02 AM Martin Carthy's version is linked to above: it's here. And Malcolm Douglas's Child text is here. Garry (Thanks again, Malcolm.) |
Subject: The New Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens From: Steve Parkes Date: 22 Jan 02 - 08:03 AM And here, as promised, is The New Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens by "Q" (Sir Arthur Quiller-Couch): The New Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
The king sits in Dunferline toun |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: GUEST,Ewan McVicar Date: 22 Jan 02 - 10:18 AM I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the remarkable tune that Ewan MacColl sang Sir Patrick Spens to - in Am it spans from an E to two As down [ technical language was never my forte]. Precision pitching essential. |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: GUEST,Ewan McVicar Date: 22 Jan 02 - 10:19 AM I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the remarkable tune that Ewan MacColl sang Sir Patrick Spens to - in Am it spans from an E to two As down [ technical language was never my forte]. Precision pitching essential. |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: GUEST,Reyesuela Date: 25 Mar 03 - 05:54 PM Quest for a Maid by Frances Mary Hendry--the YA book. VERY good. |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Shonagh Date: 26 Mar 03 - 01:24 PM Also recorded by the great balladeer Jock Duncan, on his cd tae the green woods gang (i think its that one anyway!!) Fantastic song, should really learn it....... Sho xx |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: Wilfried Schaum Date: 27 Mar 03 - 03:09 AM Poor reembar, you got a lot of information, but only one list of songbooks where you can find the tune. I learned a fascinating archaic tune by heart out of a song book I can't remember any more, but I will ask a friend next weekend who owns it. Wilfried |
Subject: RE: Sir Patrick Spence From: DonMeixner Date: 27 Mar 03 - 08:16 AM The onliest version I have ever heard of this tune is Rick Fielding's which I have learned is Bob Coltman's. I strongly suggest you hear Rick do this tune if you haven't. Don |
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