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Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie

GUEST,Deise 09 Sep 05 - 10:56 AM
curmudgeon 09 Sep 05 - 11:03 AM
Charmion 09 Sep 05 - 01:14 PM
Sorcha 09 Sep 05 - 01:30 PM
Gern 09 Sep 05 - 02:03 PM
Peace 09 Sep 05 - 06:28 PM
Sorcha 09 Sep 05 - 07:07 PM
GUEST,.gargoyle 09 Sep 05 - 10:19 PM
Goose Gander 09 Sep 05 - 11:48 PM
YorkshireYankee 10 Sep 05 - 10:17 AM
GUEST 29 Oct 06 - 11:15 PM
GUEST,Richie 29 Oct 06 - 11:57 PM
GUEST,Richie 30 Oct 06 - 11:25 AM
GUEST 16 Feb 07 - 01:05 PM
Azizi 16 Feb 07 - 08:38 PM
Azizi 16 Feb 07 - 08:54 PM
Azizi 16 Feb 07 - 08:59 PM
GUEST,Kayleigh xxx 20 Feb 07 - 03:58 PM
Azizi 20 Feb 07 - 05:41 PM
GUEST,CuriousClouseau 21 Feb 07 - 03:47 PM
kendall 21 Feb 07 - 04:25 PM
GUEST,Rosanne age19 27 Feb 07 - 09:00 AM
GUEST,Debbie 28 Feb 07 - 06:24 PM
JohnInKansas 01 Mar 07 - 05:07 PM
Lighter 01 Mar 07 - 05:23 PM
GUEST,zzxxyyqq 07 Apr 07 - 11:42 AM
GUEST,zzxxyyqq 07 Apr 07 - 11:44 AM
GUEST,danielle 06 May 07 - 11:49 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,Deise
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 10:56 AM

Does anyone out there have the lyrics for Bang Bang Rosie, Rosie Bangs all day.......


PLEASE ..... its for a hen night!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: curmudgeon
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 11:03 AM

Look for it here - Tom


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: Charmion
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 01:14 PM

If you don't succeed with Rosie, try Bang Bang Lulu. That's the version I learned in my mis-spent youf.


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Subject: Lyr Add: Bang Bang
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 01:30 PM

------(chorus)--------
bang, bang rosie,
rosie bangs all day,
who will bang for rosie,
if rosie goes away

1.
Rosie had a boyfriend,
his name was diamond dick,
he always showed his diamond,
but never showed his...
(as we were all about 12 years of age the deleted word was left out on
purpose, and we went straight into "bang, bang, rosie...")

Chorus

2.
rosie had a pet dog,
he was full of fun and frolicks,
she threw him in the air,
and caught him by the...

chorus

3.
rosie had a brother,
his name was tiny tim,
she threw him in the river,
to see if he could swim.
he swam down the river,
he swam down the falls,
rosie got excited,
and she grabbed him by the bang, bang rosie....

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=15316


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: Gern
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 02:03 PM

Roy Acuff, believe it or not, recorded a version of this ditty called "When Lulu's Gone" under the alias the Bang Boys.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: Peace
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 06:28 PM

Lulu (Rosie) had a baby
His name was Sonny Jim
She put him in the bathtub
To see if he could swim;
Sank to the bottom
Swam to the top
Rosie got excited and
Grabbed him by the
Cocktail, ginger ale,
Five cents a glass
If you don't like it
Shove it up your
Ask me no questions
Tell me no lies
If you ever get hit
With a bucket of shit
Be sure to close your eyes.

Ah, meaningful songs from the age of nine.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 07:07 PM

Where is Deise?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 10:19 PM

curmudgeon take a flyin Fcck with a flea circus.

What right-minded MC citizen would send a seeker-of-wisdom off to the tawdry sight you suggested? I say we revoke your "green-card" and line you up against the wall, prepared for the China-Man.

Collected by Dick N Susan - this is one of the originals in the Digital Tradition....

http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=477

http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=478

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Mudgcureon - go to the corner, bend over, and prepare to recite the Catacisum


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: Goose Gander
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 11:48 PM

Jonathan Richman sang...

"Lulu had a boyfriend
Name was Tommy Tucker
Took her back to his house
To see if he could...

Bang, Bang, Lulu
Lulu ran away
Lulu had to go Bang, Bang,
That's why she ran away"

If I remember from between-song banter, he claimed to have gotten it from a group called the Bermuda Strollers.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 10 Sep 05 - 10:17 AM

Here's the version my I learned from my Mom (she says she used to shock her Aunties with it when she was a kid):

Bang bang Lulu, Lulu's gone away
Who's gonna bang bang Lulu
Now that she's away?
Lulu had two boyfriends, both were very rich
One was the son of a banker
The other was a son of a
Beech nuts, beech nuts, five cents a pack
If you don't like them, I'll shove them up your
Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no more lies
A man got hit with a bag of (pause)
Right between the eyes.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Oct 06 - 11:15 PM

Rosie had a chicken
she also had a duck
she put them on the table to see if they would...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 29 Oct 06 - 11:57 PM

I'm curious about the origin of this song. I know it goes back to recordings done in the 20's as "My Lulu."

Anyone have any versions?

Also it seems this song may be related to "Shout Lula/ Shake Lulu" banjo songs.

Anyone see the connection?

Richie


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 30 Oct 06 - 11:25 AM

My Lulu
From Carl Sandburg, The American Songbag, pp. 378-379. No source
indicated, though Sandburg implies that the verses are only a selection of those known to him.

1 My Lulu hugged and kissed me,
    She wrung my hand and cried,
She said I was the sweetest thing
    That ever lived or died.

2 My Lulu's tall and slender,
    My Lulu gal's tall and slim,
But the only thing that satisfies her
    Is a good big drink of gin.

3 If you go monkey with my Lulu gal,
    I'll tell you what I'll do,
I'll carve your heart out with my razor,
    I'll shoot you with my pistol too.

4 My Lulu gal's a daisy,
    She wears a big white hat;
I bet your life when I'm in town
    The dudes all hit the flat.

5 I ain't goin' to work on the railroad,
    I ain't goin' to lie in jail,
But I'm goin' down to Cheyenne town
    To live with my Lulu gal.

6 My Lulu she's an angel,
    Only she aint (sic.) got no wings.
I guess I'll get her a wedding ring
    When the grass gets green next spring.

7 My Lulu, she's a dandy,
    She stands and drinks like a man,
She calls for gin and brandy,
    And she doesn't give a damn.

8 Engineer blowed the whistle,
    Fireman rang the bell,
Lulu, in a pink kimona
    Says, "Baby, oh fare you well."

9 I seen my Lulu in the springtime,
    I seen her in the fall;
She wrote me a letter in the winter time,
    Says, "Good-bye, honey," that's all.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 01:05 PM

I remember this verse: "Ask me no more questions,tell me no more lies. The boys are in the bathroom,pulling down their...flies are in the country,the flies are in the park. The boys and girls are kissing in the D A R K dark.


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Subject: Lyr Add: SHE HUGGED ME AND SHE KISSED ME
From: Azizi
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 08:38 PM

Richie, with regard to the first verse that you quoted from Carl Sandburg, The American Songbag:

My Lulu hugged and kissed me,
She wrung my hand and cried,
She said I was the sweetest thing
That ever lived or died.

-snip-
This is the first verse of this song that is included in Thomas W. Talley's 1922 "Negro Folk Rhymes" {Kennikat Edition Press, 1968; p. 131}:

SHE HUGGED ME AND SHE KISSED ME

I see'd her in de Springtime,
I see's her in de Fall.
I see'd her in de Cotton patch,
A cameing from the Ball.

She hug me, as' she kissed me,
She wrung my han' an' cried.
She said I wus de sweetes/ thin
Dat ever lived or died.

She hug me an' she kiss me.
Ih Heaben! De touch o' her han'!
She said I wus de puttiest thing
In de shape o' mortal man.

I told her dat I love her,
Dat my love wus bed-cord strong;
Den I axed her w'en she'd have me.
An' she jes say "Go Long!"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: Azizi
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 08:54 PM

GUEST, 16 Feb 07 - 01:05 PM

Regarding the lines you quoted, these are a standard part of the children's {usually handclap rhyme} "Miss Suzie" {or "Miss Lucy", or "Miss Molly"} Had A Steamboat {tugboat}". Like many children's recreational rhymes, "Miss Suzie" is composed by stringing together a number of different versions, some of which can be found in other rhymes, or recited independently. Several lines found in "Miss Suzie Had A Steamboat" children rhymes will be familiar to those folks who know the "Bang Bang Rosie" adult rhymes.

The schoolyard games thread at http://blog.oftheoctopuses.com/000518.php has a number of examples of this rhyme.

Here's one example from that thread:

miss suzie had a steamboat the steamboat had a bell ding ding miss suzie went to heaven the steamboat went to hello operator please give me number 9 and if you disconnect me ill kick you from behind the fridgerator there was a piece of glass miss suzie sat upon it and broke her little ask me no more questions tell me no more lies the boys are in the bathroom zipping up their flies are in the meadow the bees are in the park miss suzie and her boyfriend are kissing in the D-A-R-K D-A-R-K DARK DARK DARK DARK the dark is like the movies the movies' like the show the show is like a tv set and that is all i know i know i know my ma, i know i know my pa i know i know my sister with the 40 acre bra bras come from feathers feathers come from birds birds come from eggs and that is all i heard i heard my sister kissing in her room the person she was kissing was someone else's groom my mom gave me a nickel my pa gave me a dime my sister gave me a boyfriend who kissed me all the time he kissed me over london he kissed france he kissed me over disneyland without his underpants my ma took back the nickel my pa took back the dime my sister took the boyfriend and gave me frankenstein he made me do the dishes he made me wash the floors he made me wash his underwear so i kicked him out the door i kicked him over london i kicked him iver france i kicked him over disneyland without his underpants! (and then theres something else that i dont remmeber. possibly something abouyt a kid that plays basketball....*fuzzy memory*...)

posted by z at December 3, 2004 01:27 AM

-snip-

Disclaimer: 'z' and I share a nickname. I'm not that poster and don't know her or him.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: Azizi
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 08:59 PM

Correction:

Like many children's recreational rhymes, "Miss Suzy" is composed by stringing together a number of different verses.

And to make up for my mistake, here's another made-up rhyme from the "Miss Suzy Had A Steamboat" family:

Miss Susie had a steamboat. The steamboat had a bell.
The steamboat went to heaven. Miss Susie went to ——.

Hello, operator. Give me number nine,
And if you disconnect me, I'll chop off your ——.

Behind the refrigerator, There was a piece of glass.
Miss Suzie sat upon it, and cut her little ——.

Ass-k me any question, I tell no lies.
The boys are in the girl's bathroom, Zipping down their ——.

Flies are in the city. Bees are in the park.
(Friend's name) and her (his) boy (girl) friend, Are kissing in the,
D-a-r-k, D-a-r-k, D-a-r-k, dark, dark, dark.

The dark is like the movies. The movies like the show.
The show is like the TV set, and that is all I know.

I know I know my ma. I know I know my pa.
I know I know my sister with the forty-acre bra.

My mother is Godzilla. My father is King Kong.
My brother is the stupid one who taught me this song.

My mother gave me a nickel. My father gave me a dime.
My sister gave me her old boyfriend. His name was Frankenstein.

He made me do the dishes. He made me wash the floors.
He made me clean his underwear, so I kicked him out the door.

I kicked him over London. I kicked him over France.
I kicked him over Hawaii where he learned the hula dance.

He swam across the ocean. He swam across the sea.
He swam across the tub just to get to me.

I flushed him down the tub. I drained the water good.
I kicked him out just like my mama said I should.

In Hawaii, he met the good girls. In Hawaii, he met the bad.
Halfway through Hawaii he ran into my dad.

The good girls go to heaven, So the bad girls go to ——.
Hello, operator. Give me number ten,
And if you disconnect me, I'll sing this song again!

-Elle F.; 11/18/2006 http://www.cocojams.com/handclap_rhymes_example_0104.htm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,Kayleigh xxx
Date: 20 Feb 07 - 03:58 PM

me and my sis Hollie spotted this thread and the songs reminded us of the old school playground songs we sang while clapping our hands in all sorts of weird and wonderful ways... i think this one may have come from the miss suzie family...

my boyfriend gave me an apple,
my boyfriend gave me a pear,
my boyfriend gave me a kiss on the lips,
and threw me down the stairs stairs stairs.

i gave him back his apple,
i gave him back his pear,
i gave him back his kiss on the lips,
and threw him down the stairs stairs stairs.

i made him wash the dishes,
i made him wash the floor,
i made him wash the babies bum in 1984.

i threw him over England,
i threw him over Wales,
i threw him over the USA,
and he ended up in jail.

in jail they give you coffee,
in jail they give you tea,
in jail they give you everything,
except the blooming key!!

charming im sure you'll agree. hehe :o) xxx


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: Azizi
Date: 20 Feb 07 - 05:41 PM

That's a good one, Kayleigh.

Thanks for posting it!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,CuriousClouseau
Date: 21 Feb 07 - 03:47 PM

I think Seamus Moore was the artist that recorded the song as "Bang Bang Rosie". It can be got on his CD "The Best Of Seamus Moore".


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: kendall
Date: 21 Feb 07 - 04:25 PM

Would you believe that I heard Lulu by Wilf Carter back in the 40's?

He kinda muffed one of the words but it was plain what it was. (I can't believe I said that)

My Lulu gal she's a daisy she wears a big white hat,
Bet your life when they go to town the dudes all gat the clap.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,Rosanne age19
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 09:00 AM

Bang bang rosie
rosie bangs all day
whos gona bang for rosie
wen rosie goes away

Rosie had a bike
she got it of her granny
and every time she rode it
the seat stuck up her... bang bang rosie(chorus)

Rosie had an army
she taught them loads of tricks
she lined them up against the wall
and paralysed their.....bang bang rosie....

Rosie had a dog
And she named him trollix
she threw him up in the air
and caught him by the ....

rosie had a brother
his name was tiny tim
she threw him in the river
to see if he cud swim
he floated down the river
he floated down the falls
rosie got excited
and grabbed him by the ....

rosie had a chicken
and she had a duck
she put them in the bathtub
to see if they wud ....

as my nickname is rosie i got this all the time
there are loads more verses that i cant think off, thats why i came here lookin for them...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,Debbie
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 06:24 PM

Rosie went to a football match
and stood behind the goal,
every time the ball went in,
it went right up her.....bang bang rosie


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 05:07 PM

Guy Logsden records about a dozen verses, in The Whorehouse Bells Were Ringing: and other songs cowboys sing, for "My Lulu Gal." Alternate titles noted include "Lula," "My Lulu," "Bang Away, My Lulu," Bang, Bang Lulu," "She Is a Lulu," "and many more."

Collection notes indicate the first printed reference to "Lulu" in cowboy song is from 1902, when Owen Wister has the hero in The Virginian sing one verse. The verse used is commonly known, but Wister stated "that the other 78 verses were unprintable."

Logsdon also relates that "Lulu/Lula" was immensely popular with the military personnel of many nations during the WWI era, and that Anthony Hopkins in Songs From the Front and Rear (1979) and C.W. "Bill" Getz in The Wild Blue Yonder (1986) include "the uncensored Lula known and loved by servicemen."

Logsden relates several verses to "The Darby Ram," and sees a relationship to "Ten Broeck and Mollie" (1878?) He sees at least one verse as derivative from "Rollin' In My Sweet Baby's Arms."

He also comments that the "Lula or Lulu" that appeared in John Lomax's 1935 edition Cowboy Songs and Other Country Ballads turned Lula into something entirely foreign to the character known to decades of military men (An accusation not otherwise foreign to Lomax's collections.)

Logsdon suggests that "Gershon Legman probably found more versions than anyone else," but as Legman is now deceased with publishers still refusing his works it's unlikely that his collection will appear.

Logsden reports that Cray also included "a greater diversity of travel and song lineages than I have shown" in The Erotic Muse, but they may have been omitted from the second edition that I have, as they're not in my "index of holdings."

The older versions apparently appeared as "straight songs," and the popular "jump to chorus" in place of the implied "bad word" is a more recent folk (children's) variation(?). Verses given by Logsdon are "rather plain vanilla" and probably are not quite what's wanted here.

John


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: Lighter
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 05:23 PM

Edward A. Dolph reported that unprintable "Lulu" was the favorite American marching song in WW I after "Hinky Dinky Parley Voo."

Gordon's Inferno collection tends to support this.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,zzxxyyqq
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 11:42 AM

Two versions of this song exist that I didn't see mentioned, one by Oscar Brand, "Bang Away, Lulu, Bang It Good and Strong, What in the Hell Will the Navy Do When Good Old Lulu's Gone", which was a cut in Brand's LP album Bawdy Sea Chanteys, circa 1957 and, believe it or not, a version from 1936, entitled "Bang, Bang, My Lulu, by of all people, ROY ACUFF, who portrayed himself as being a REALLY clean-cut individual. I wonder if he would have become known as the King of Country Music and such an influential person on the Grand Ol' Opry had that song been widely heard.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,zzxxyyqq
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 11:44 AM

Forgot to mention that I have both versions in my library of songs


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,danielle
Date: 06 May 07 - 11:49 AM

roise had a girlfriend her name was rosie too


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,Gavin
Date: 06 Dec 07 - 03:10 PM

Rosie had a brother,
He had lots of knits,
They banged heads together and out came Rosie's...

Bang Bang Rosie...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: Joe_F
Date: 06 Dec 07 - 08:34 PM

Some girls work in fact'ries,
Some girls work in stores,
But Lulu works in the alley
With 14 other whores.

Bang, bang, Lulu.
Bang, bang, Lulu.
Who we gonna bang on,
Now that Lulu's gone?

Some girls use Kotex,
Some girls use rags,
But Lulu has a big one:
She uses burlap bags.

(Remembered from my misspent youth, ca. 1956)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: Severn
Date: 06 Dec 07 - 09:07 PM

And the verse we knew with an American TV reference:

Lulu had a boyfriend
His name was Alan Funt
He took his Candid Camera
and photographed her nose.....


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,Leila xx
Date: 21 May 08 - 06:56 PM

I don't know bang-bang lulu or whatever but I know Miss Susie had a steamboat!

Miss Susie had a steamboat. The steamboat had a bell.
Miss Susie went to heaven. The steamboat went to—
Hell-o operator, please get me number nine!
And if you disconnect me, I'll kick you from behind
The 'frigerator, there was a piece of glass.
Miss Lucy sat upon it, and broke her little ass-
K me no more questions, I'll tell you no more lies.
The boys are in the bathroom, pulling down their flies
Are in the meadow, the bees are in the park.
Miss Rosie and her boyfriend, are kissing in the dark-
Er than the river, oh darker than the sea!
Darker than the underwear my grandma put on me.
I know my mother, and I know my pa.
I also know my sister with the forty-acre bra.
My mom's Godzilla. my father is King Kong.
My brother is the stupid one who made up this dumb song.
Oh operator, please get me number ten,
And if you disconnect me, I'll sing this song again!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,sammm
Date: 13 Jul 08 - 06:11 PM

I don't know bang-bang Rosie but I know Miss Susie

Miss Susie had a steamboat. Her steamboat had a bell. Ding, ding!
Miss Susie went to heaven. Her steamboat went to—
Hello, operator. Please give me number nine;
And if you disconnect me, I'll chop off your—
Behind the refrigerator, there was a piece of glass.
Miss Susie sat upon it and broke her little—
Ask me no more questions. I'll tell you no more lies.
The boys are in the girls bathroom, pulling down their—
Flies are in the meadow. Bees are in the park.
Miss Susie and her boyfriend are kissing in the—
D-a-r-k, d-a-r-k, dark, dark,
Darker than the ocean, darker than the sea,
Darker than the underwear my mommy puts on me.
I know I know my ma. I know I know my pa.
I know I know my sister with the 40-acre bra.
I see her in the ocean. I see her in the sea.
I see her in the bathroom. Oops! Pardon me.
My mother is Godzilla. My father is King Kong.
My brother is the stupid one who taught me this dumb song!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: Azizi
Date: 19 Oct 08 - 08:12 AM

Earlier in this discussion Sorcha provided a link to a Google Question & Answer thread. That thread included examples of "Bang Bang Lulu" and other rhymes. As a result of that discussion, I looked for and found several threads about several of those rhymes that have the title "More Work For The Undertaker". And the more I read examples of those rhymes, the more I think that some of their verses of this rhyme are related to "Bang Bang Lulu". I also believe that more directly through the "Bang Bang Lulu" rhyme, versions of "More Work For The Undertaker" are related to at least two children's playground rhymes- "Miss Susie Had A Steamboat" and "Miss Lucy Had A Baby".

I posted the examples from that discussion of "More Work For The Undertaker" on this Mudcat thread:
thread.cfm?threadid=21520&messages=29
Lyr Req: More Work for the Undertaker

I hope that some folks reading this "Bang Bang Lulu" thread will also read that "More Work For The Undertaker" thread and see what you think about the similarities between those two rhymes,as well as the similarities between "More Work For The Undertaker {MWFTU} and the "Miss Susie/Steamboat" and "Miss Lucy/Baby" rhymes.

In my next post to this thread I'll posts a few verses that seem to me to show a common source between "More Work For The Undertaker {MWFTU} and the "Miss Susie/Steamboat" and "Miss Lucy/Baby" rhymes.
I think that source began with either "MWFTU" and/or "My Lulu Gal" {or some such older version of "Bang Bang Lulu"} and then later became core parts of the "Miss Susie/Steamboat" and "Miss Lucy/Baby" and probably several other contemporary children's handclap or skipping {jump rope} rhymes.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: Azizi
Date: 19 Oct 08 - 09:05 AM

I think that the fact that people so often provide examples of "Miss Susie Had A Steamboat" and "Miss Lucy Had A Baby" during discussions about "Bang Bang Lulu {Rosie}" is proof that these three rhymes are clearly related. As I've noted before, "Miss Susie/Steamboat" and "Miss Lucy/Baby" come from "Bang Bang Lulu" and not the other way around.

Although I'm aware that the subject of this thread is "Bang Bang Lulu {Rosie}", I'd like to take a bit more time to showcase a few connections between between "Bang Bang Lulu", "Miss Susie Had A Steamboat", "Miss Lucy Had A Baby" and/or "More Work For The Undertaker" {MWFTU}.

Let me first say that the versions of MWFTU that I've read don't appear to be sexually risque like most "Bang Bang Lulu" rhymes are, and like "Miss Susie/Steamboat" rhymes are to much lesser extent. Also, the "More Work For The Undertaker" examples that I've read don't have the pattern of leaving off a risque word and going to the chorus {as is the case in "Bang Bang Lulu"} or using the risque word in a socially acceptable way, and thus having plausible deniability that you didn' say a naughty word {as is the case with "Miss Susie Had A Steamboat" rhymes}.

That said, I'll post a few similarities in the lyrics of two or more of these rhymes: My comments are in italics.

A verse from a MWFTU rhyme refers to a bell and hell, as does all Miss Susie Steamboat rhymes

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sam got a job on the railroad
From: GUEST,Liz Magpie - PM
Date: 24 Apr 08 - 07:25 PM

And, I've just remembered a funny little verse my Dad used to say to me :

Sammy sat on the tramway line,
The driver rang his bell,
The tram went on to Hammersmith
And Sammy went to Hell.

I'd be about 5 at the time. He never said it in Mum's hearing, she'd have been cross. Back in the 50s the word "hell" was a bit rude for a child, so it was our own naughty joke, and I'd just collapse in giggles.
I can only assume it was from his own schooldays in Paddington around 1920
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reference to lemonade and ginger drinks in MWFTU are similar to references to cocktail gingerale in some versions of Bang Bang Lulu {particularly the Sonny Jim/bathtub version that became "Miss Lucy Had A Baby" See Peace's version:

From: Peace - PM
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 06:28 PM

Lulu (Rosie) had a baby
His name was Sonny Jim
She put him in the bathtub
To see if he could swim...
Grabbed him by the
Cocktail, ginger ale,
Five cents a glass...

Compare that with this version of "More Work For The Undertaker"

"Sambo had an Uncle, an Uncle very rich,
One day he said to Sambo,
"I'll give you two and six."
Sambo feeling thirsty, went into a lemonade shop,
Bought ten lemonades and ten ginger beers
And Sambo went off pop.
BANG".

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Since this is Bang Bang Lulu's thread, let me note the connection between GUEST,Rosanne age19 Feb 07 - 09:00 AM verse about Rosie having a brother named Tiny Tim who almost drowned, and Miss Lucy who had a baby named Tiny Tim who also almost drowned {but, in this case, it was in the bathtub}

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The emphasis of the word Bang in the "MWFTU" and the "Bang Bang Lulu" rhymes

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the reference in a MWFTU verse of the central character being pricked by a pin compared to the reference in all of the Miss Susie/Steamboat rhymes of the central character sitting on a piece of glass

Sambo had a sister, a sister very thin,
One day she said to Sambo,
"I'll prick you with a pin."
Sambo didn't like it, 'cause he was very fat,
And when she pricked him with a pin
He went off bang like that

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This is just a brief look at the similarities between some of the verses of these rhymes.

I'd be interested in "hearing" whether you think that there is any connections between these rhymes.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Apr 09 - 03:02 PM

I've heard of the "Diamond Dick" one, but not the others. I also heard, "Rosie had a chicken;
Rosie had a duck;
she put 'em on the table;
to see if they would--"

(chorus)

"Rosie had a bicycle;
the seat was made of glass;
When Rosie dared to sit on it;
it went right up her--"

(chorus)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Tony
From: GUEST,mick
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 03:29 PM

bang bang tony
tony bangs all day
who will bang for tony
when tony goes away

tony had a brother
his brothers name was mick
mick always punched him in the gut
but never in the......


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,Anon - who I once childlessly thought was a
Date: 22 Feb 10 - 07:07 PM

Rosie had a brother
his first name was Danny
He often used to brush her hair
but never brushed her...

Bang Bang Rosie.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: Jack Campin
Date: 22 Feb 10 - 07:33 PM

A really imaginative take on this form: Emilie Autumn's "Miss Lucy Had Some Leeches" (on CD or YouTube).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,old school mule
Date: 23 Mar 10 - 10:15 AM

Ya, the "hip" boys (or those that thought they were) used to sing it this way (at the BACK of the school bus of course):

bang, bang rosie,
rosie bangs all day,
who will bang for rosie,
if rosie goes away

I took my rosie to a baseball game
sat her down in front
along came a baseball
and hit her in the...
bang, bang rosie,
rosie bangs all day,
who will bang for rosie,
if rosie goes away

rosie gave me watermelon
didn't remove the pits
every time I took a bite
I spit them at her...
bang, bang rosie,
rosie bangs all day,
who will bang for rosie,
if rosie goes away

rosie sat at a window pane
broke up that piece of glass
every time she wiggled
she bruised her little...
bang, bang rosie,
rosie bangs all day,
who will bang for rosie,
if rosie goes away


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 01:17 PM

rosie had a bmx
the seat was back to front
and everytime she sat on it
the seat went up her ... bang bang rosie


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,kate
Date: 11 Jul 10 - 04:47 PM

rosie had a boss,
his name was mr.hunt,
and everytime he passed her
he grabbed her by the.....


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,leanne
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 05:24 AM

bang bang rosy , rosy bangs allday whos gonna bang for rosy when rosy goes away .

rosy had a bicycle she got it from her granny everytime the wheels went round the spokes went up her .... chorus

rosy had a baby his name was tiny tim she flushed him down the toilet to see if he could swim. He swam into the ocean and down waterfalls rosy got excited and grabbed him by the ...... chorus

rosy had a boyfriend his name was diamond dick he always showed his diamonds but never showed his ....chorus


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,leanne
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 05:38 AM

mary had a little lamb she taught it very silly
every time he was bold she grabbed him by the ..
willy was a watch dog and he wouldnt go to mass
and that meant that mary had to kick him in the ..
Ask no questions tell no lies
did u ever see a china man pull down his ...
Flies arre dirty , bees are worse
and that is the end of my little curse


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST,jade
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 05:47 AM

bang bang rosy rosy is so gay , whenever she is tired she gets the fuck away


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 01:21 PM

its on you tube


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Nov 10 - 05:23 PM

bang bang rosie rosie bangs all day who's gonna bang for rosie when rosie goes away!
Rosie had an uncle, her uncle was a plummer, and everytime that she goes round he always tries to bummer =))

rosie ha a brother, her brothers name was tommy, and everytime that she goes round he grabbed her by the...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bang Bang Rosie
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 12:59 PM

Rosie had a doctor, her doctors name was fitz
he often used to check her heart but he never checked her

bang bang rosie......


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