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Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????

Louie Roy 12 Sep 05 - 10:47 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Louie Roy
Date: 12 Sep 05 - 10:47 AM

I'm not sure of the title or how old this song is but I learned this much back in the 1930s.Does anyone have the rest of the lyrics or even heard it.All help really appreciated.This is what I remembered
    Daddy's in the Whorehouse
    Momma's in jail
    Sis is on the corner
    Hollering Boogie Woogie for sale
    Boogie Woogie Boogie Woogie
    Boogie Woogie for me Boogie Woogie for you
    And I hope you're satisfied you rascal you


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Azizi
Date: 12 Sep 05 - 12:27 PM

I don't know this song but FYI, I've collected a handclap rhyme called "Rockin Robin" [also known as "Tweedleelee"]from African American females in various United States communities.
That rhyme has a very similar verse:

Momma's in the kitchen cooking rice.
Daddy's at home shooting dice.
Brother's in jail raising bail [or pissin in the pail}
Sister's in the corner sellin
fruit cocktail. *

-snip-

* From my obeservations of girls [in Pittsburgh, PA and surrounding areas from 1997 to date] and from comments that I received from women in Pittsburgh, PA area, Erie PA, Cleveland PA, Atlanta GA, and New York, City it seems clear from the accompanying movements that children recognize the sexual implications of the phrase "fruit cocktail". The girls pat down their hips to the beat and shake their hips from side to side to when they say "fruit cocktail".

I wonder if this "Boogie Woogie" song [whatever it is] contributed to this verse.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: radriano
Date: 12 Sep 05 - 12:59 PM

Wow, fifteen question marks. You must really be confused!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Metchosin
Date: 12 Sep 05 - 01:27 PM

Sounds like a parody of the jump tune Goody Goody For You by Paul Whiteman arranger, Matty Malneck, lyrics by Johnny Mercer, ca 1936.

Hooray and hallelujah
You had it comin' to ya
Goody Goody for him
Goody Goody for you
And I hope you're satisfied, you rascal you!

Of course the song noted may have been a cleaned up version of the bawdier one.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: GUEST,Bob Coltman
Date: 13 Sep 05 - 11:13 AM

Tampa Red with his Hokum Jug Band used to sing a song "I'll Be Glad When You're Dead, You Rascal You." Cab Calloway picked it up and made a hit of it. That one line does sound like yours. Here's one of perhaps half a dozen verses (and more, I'm sure, on the street):

I'll be glad when you're dead, you rascal you,
I'll be glad when you're dead, you rascal you,
You came into my home,
You wouldn't leave my wife alone!
I'll be glad when you're dead you rascal you.

With much more in the same vein. I'm thinking maybe Tampa did his song as a riff on that street rhyme.

But your verse and chorus could also be copped off a vocal record from the 30s or even the 20s by somebody we haven't heard yet. Blind Lemon Jefferson was the first I know of to name the music with his "Booger Rooger," and the phrase was already common among hop scoppers in the 20s.

His record touched off a minor imitation craze and a number of people like Lucille Bogan and some others did blues boogies. But I have never run into the refrain you cite, far as I remember.

I think "Goody Goody" may have riffed off the same thing, but by then this verse form and the Boogie Woogie were well established. Because boogie woogie was just another underground term for sex, same as jassin', I expect Mercer felt he had to clean it up, or the vowels just triggered him to have a vowel movement (sorry, couldn't resist).

That's how Tin Pan Alley worked. A writer would hear something hot and compose something as clean as possible in imitation of it to try to catch the prevailing ear, and Mercer was good at that.

Sure would like to find out more about it, and hear more verses.

Bob


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 13 Sep 05 - 12:20 PM

Didn't Louis Armstrong and the Timpani Five recorded a similar song?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Louie Roy
Date: 13 Sep 05 - 02:34 PM

The tempo of the song is Boogie Woogie beat and there were several more verses


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 13 Sep 05 - 05:08 PM

I like it - have never heard it - it could fit dozens of well known tunes.

Thanks For Posting.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Louie Roy
Date: 13 Sep 05 - 10:09 PM

Maybe some one can furnish a list of artist who wrote this type of songs back in the early 1900s and we could pursue that course


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Subject: Lyr Add: ALA BOOGY (from 'Songs of Raunch & ,,,')
From: and e
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 11:30 AM

Songs of Raunch and Ill-Repute page 25 has something similar to the Boogie Woogie / Rockin' Robin:
ALA BOOGY

Mom's in bed, Pop's on top,
Kid's in the cradle yellin', "Shove it to her, Pop."
Ala Boogy -- That's all I crave.

Mom's in bed, Pop's in jail,
Sis's in the corner yellin', "Pussy for sale."
Ala Boogy -- that's all I crave.

Mom's in the kitchen, Pop's locked up,
My hunchback brother has my sister knocked up.
Ala Boogy -- that's all I crave

Got a model T Ford, tank's full of gas,
Mouth's full of titty, and hand's full of ass.
Ala Boogy -- that's all I crave.

Haven't got a nickel, haven't got a dime,
House full of kids, and none of 'em's mine.
Ala Boogy -- that's all I crave.

Way down south in the sycamore timber,
If you can't get it hard, stick it in limber.
Ala Boogy -- that's all I crave.

I've done sung this song till I sweat,
Ain't anybody bought no Ala Boogy yet.
Ala Boogy -- that's all I crave.
Notes: It seems that the commercially successful 1958 "Rockin' Robin" song was a cleaned up version of the bawdy original. The text above is from May 1958.

The "...tank full of gas ... hand full of ass" verse floats independently and has been used as a marching cadence (to the tune of "Sound Off (the Duckworth chant)". The first two verses also appear in other bawdy songs.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: and e
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 04:22 AM

DOING THE DIRTY BOOGIE

This dirty old boogie
It's taking this town
It h'aint no use
From the hips on down
When we done the dirty boogie
In the low down way
But the dirty old boogie
Drive you to your grave
I tuck her in the kitchen
And I laid her on the floor
And the wind from her ass
Blew the cat out the door.

Well the nipples on her tits
Like a handle on a gord
Whole wide straddled (??)
Like a T-Model ford

Well the hairs around her ass
Were a fist plum color
And the crabs from her snatch
Were screwing each other.

Well Momma's in bed
And Dad's on top
Sister's in the corner
Hollerin', "Lay it to her pop!"

Well the nipples on her tits
Big as plums
She can shake her ass
To make a dead man cum.

Now lay down Momma
Be careful how you lay
Daddy's going to get ya
In the family way

Well she boogied and she boogied
'Til she hung it on it on the wall
Said come on boys
There's enough for us all

See that girl all dressed in green
She's got the biggest boogie
I've ever seen

Well there h'ain't no use
She's raising no hell
I know you've done the boogie
By the way you smell.

Now the rattles(?) on the fence
While the saddles(?) on the pole
All night long keep the peter in the hole


This is transcribed from a 1940's party record on YouTube. See here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLTjpnkmjjU


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Louie Roy
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 10:51 AM

Thanks and e for the posting


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 08:10 PM

Hmmm...

"I tuck her in the kitchen
And I laid her on the floor"

&

"Well she boogied and she boogied
'Til she hung it on it on the wall"

Sound remarkably close to a song Chuck Berry sang...

Can't remember the title - thought it was "Reelin' and rockin'", but a search fails to link that title with what I remember.
The song was on his live album - the one with the extended live version of 'my ding a ling' where he get the audience joining in...


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Subject: Boogie Woogie / Dirty Boogie / Hey Bob A Re Bob
From: and e
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 12:25 PM

Here is another version of "Doing the Dirty Boogie":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1azgTF6U2U4

This version is titled "Hey Ba Ba Re Bob" from the variant chorus. Can someone transcribe this for us?


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Subject: "Hey! Ba-Ba-Re-Bop!" (1946)
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 01:47 PM

The "Hey Ba Ba Re Bob" above is probably a parody of the 1946 song "Hey! Ba-Ba-Re-Bop!". Here are the lyrics to the clean song:
HEY! BA-BA-RE-BOP!

HEY!-- BA-BA-RE-BOP,
HEY!-- BA-BA-RE-BOP,
HEY! --BA-BA-RE-BOP,
HEY!-- BA-BA-RE-BOP,
HEY!--BA-BA-RE-BOP,
Yes,--your ba-by knows,

Ma-til-da Brown-told Old King Tut,-
If you an't say RE-BOP, keep your big mouth shut,

--sing-'in HEY!--BA-BA-RE-BOP,
HEY!--BA-BA-RE-BOP,
HEY!--BA-BA-RE-BOP,
Yes,----your ba-by knows,

Ma-ma's on the chair,
Pa-pa's on the cot,
Ba-by's in the crib blow-in'
his nat-'ral top.

- HEY!--BA-BA-RE-BOP,
HEY--BA-BA-RE-BOP,
HEY!--BA-BA-RE-BOP,
Yes, ---your ba-by- knows----

Up on the moum-tai,
look-in' at the sea,
Look-in'for that cat that
stole my ba-by from me,
sing-in'

HEY!--BA-BA-RE-BOP,
HEY!-- BA-BA-RE-BOP,
HEY!--BA-BA-RE-BOP,
Yes,--your ba-by knows.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 02:09 PM

Or, perhaps, the Party Record version of the song proceeds the cleaned up commercial song...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Azizi
Date: 25 Jul 08 - 02:23 AM

Thanks to all who have posted information & lyrics about those songs that predate Rockn Robin.

I've been trying to track down the earliest sources that I can for selected American {particularly African American} children's playground rhymes.

I think this nails the sources for verses of Rockin Robin, which is usually called "Tweeleelee" {or some similarly spelled and pronounced word} in many African American communities throughout the USA {since 1972, when Michael Jackson recorded his version of "Rockin Robin"}.

For those interested, I have posted 10 versions of "Tweeleelee" on website. Most of these examples were sent in by that site's visitors. Here's the link to that page:

http://cocojams.com/handclap_rhymes.htm

**

I'm curious if anyone knows if a similar verse to this one below is part of any of those old songs that you've mentioned:

Here's the verse found in many versions of the children's handclap rhyme Tweeleelee {alternate words in given in parenthesis}

I went downtown
to get a stick of butta {butter}
I saw James Brown layin {or "sittin", or "poopin", one version I collected from a Black fraternity/sorority website suggested that the word here was F**king}
In the gutta {gutter}
He had a piece of glass
Stuck up his ass {though most children either say "butt" or they completely omit that word}
I never saw a Black man {this is probably the clean substitute for the n-word}
run so fast.

-snip-

Here's an example of the entire handclap rhyme, with no changes to the poster's spelling/typos:

swing swing swing to te usa hey hey rockin in atreeto all day long huffin and a puffin and singin that song all the lil birdies on jaybird street love to here therobins go tweet tweet tweet rockin robintweet tweetalee rockin robin tweet tweetalee mama in he kitchen cookin fried rice daddy oUt side shootin some dice brothA in jail drinkin gingerale sista roun te corner sellin FRUIT COCTAIL rockin robin tweet tweetalee rockin robin tweet tweetalee batman and robin flyin in the air batman lost his underwear batmn said i dont care cause robingoin to by me azillion more pair rockinrobin tweet tweetalee iwent down town to getsum btta saw james brown sittin ina gutta gotta piece of glass stuck it up his i neva seen a black man runso fast rockinrobin tweet tweet alee
-j-mil; 3/19/2005 ; {African American male; Maryland http://blog.oftheoctopuses.com/000518.php

**
Here's another version of that "last" verse along with the poster's comments:

i went down town to get a stick of butter
and saw james brown sitting (people cursed on my block) in the gutter
i took a piece of glass and stuck it up his (you know what)
i never saw a (kids are mean) run so fast.

we even played that in college.

hmmm...those hand games were violent and had curses in them, huh?

holla at me if you remember
-MaMaBuddha; {African American female}; Harlem {New York, New York}; 7/31/2000}

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/archive/index.php/t-5627.html

**

Thanks, again for the interesting information about the possible {probable?} sources for the song & the handclap rhyme Rockin Robin {Yweeleelee}!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Azizi
Date: 25 Jul 08 - 02:39 AM

In re-reading my post, I just realized that although the children I have heard recite this verse always say "he had a piece of glass stuck up his butt" the two versions that I posted say "i stuck a piece of glass up his {ass}".

All these years that I have heard this rhyme recited {since 1997} I've been trying to figure out why James Brown has a piece of glass stuck in his butt. I'm such a nice girl that it didn't occur to me that someone stick some glass up his butt.

Btw, I think the reference to "James Brown" in this rhyme dates back to old children's rhymes about Buster Brown and later Charlie Brown going downtown...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: and e
Date: 31 Jul 08 - 02:35 PM

Here is another version from the Song Book of the Wild Hares (ca 1945). The Wild Hares was a Marine fighter squadron.
BOOGIT

Mama's in bed and Popppa's on top,
Baby's in the cradle yelling -
"Shove it to her Pop."

Chorus:
I'm gonna' boogit,
Boogit to my dying days.

I've got a gal name Molly Brown
She's got the biggest box in town.

I've got a gal, she's sweet sixteen,
She keeps me broke buying vaseline.

Said the old alligator
As he swallowed the cat.
"I've got a pussy
That you can't get at."

Grandpop said, just before he died,
"If I could boogit once more,
I'd be satisfied."

I boobedit in the kitchen
I boogedit in the hall,
I boogedit on my finger
So I threw it on the wall.

Monkey and a baboon sittin' in the grass
Monkey shoved his finger
Up the baboon's ass.

The baboon said, "Goddamn your soul
Shove your finger up your own ass hole.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Peace
Date: 31 Jul 08 - 04:16 PM

BOOGIE WOOGIE--Youtube and crank the volume.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: GUEST,Kjnnhh22
Date: 17 Dec 10 - 08:04 PM

Ha i heard of a handshake kinda simliar to this but I don't know the whole thing here it is (dont know if u looking for this)

Swing,Swing,Swing to the U S A Hey hey!
Momma's in the kitchen cooking fried chicken
Dad's in bed half way dead
Sisters at School Looking like a fool (or acting like a fool)
Brothers In Jail Drinking Ginger Ail
And i dont know the rest...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: GUEST,Bill
Date: 26 Oct 11 - 07:43 AM

Here is the version I learned (although I can't remember one line completely). It was sung pretty fast until you got the the "drive me to my grave" which was VERY slow.

Went down the cellar, to get a bottle of cider,
There sat a junebug jacking off a spider.
It's a dirty, dirty boogie that's what I crave.
Dirty, dirty boogie gonna drive me to my grave.

Went back down, ???
There sat the junebug doing it again.
It's a dirty, dirty boogie that's what I crave.
Dirty, dirty boogie gonna drive me to my grave.

Mama in the kitchen, Papa in jail.
Sister on the corner singing "pussy for sale".
It's a dirty, dirty boogie that's what I crave.
Dirty, dirty boogie gonna drive me to my grave.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 26 Oct 11 - 08:19 AM

According to this Russian site - Benny Carter - it looks as if Benny Carter recorded the original song as Re-Bop Boogie in 1946. Sadly, although there are plenty of previews of the track, I can't find any with words to verify this.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Lighter
Date: 26 Oct 11 - 10:20 AM

Oscar Brand used stanzas from Guest Bill's version in his versions of "The Old Chisholm Trail" and "I Ride an Old Paint" on Bawdy Western Songs (1960).

The latter song seems entirely bawdified by Brand. The former, only partially.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 28 Oct 11 - 01:07 PM

I have listened to RE-BOP BOOGIE performed by Benny Carter and his Orchestra, and it's all instrumental—no singing.

It's on the album "1946-1948" (Classics CD 1043, 1999), which I can hear via Spotify.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 28 Oct 11 - 01:40 PM

Thanks for checking Jim. It must have been put on the site just for the boogie-woogie association even though it says it's the song text.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Oct 11 - 01:53 PM

The version I was looking for when I posted this was posted on this thread July 22,2008 by and e and is called ALA Boogy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 30 Oct 11 - 01:27 PM

The line "I hope you're satisfied, you rascal you"—quoted in the first message—makes it seem that this is a parody GOODY GOODY by Johnny Mercer and Matt Malneck.

However, the rest of the lines that are quoted here don't seem to fit the meter of GOODY GOODY.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: Azizi
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 03:38 PM

Greetings!

I just published a post about the song "Hey! Ba Ba Re Bop" that owes a great deal to this thread, particularly the comments posted by Guest "and e" and Bob Coltman.

The link for that post is http://cocojams.com/content/hey-ba-ba-re-bop-videos-lyrics-precusor-songs-analysis Hey Ba Ba Re Bop - Videos, Lyrics, Precusor Songs, & Analysis.

Viewer comments, including corrections are welcome!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Boogie Woogie ???????????????
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Apr 12 - 12:14 AM

A friend of mine at Hendon County School, about 1949, would sing

Papa's on the bed
Mamma's on the floor
Baby's on the po
And he can't do any more
Hey ba ba rebop...

[some, IIRC, would pronounce chorus as something more approximating to Hey Barber Reeba]

which, unless I have carelessly overlooked it, doesn't seem to have been included in any of above variants.

~Michael~


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