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Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE

Skipjack K8 09 Oct 05 - 06:31 PM
Susanne (skw) 09 Oct 05 - 06:25 PM
John MacKenzie 09 Oct 05 - 05:26 PM
MudGuard 09 Oct 05 - 03:31 PM
John MacKenzie 09 Oct 05 - 08:17 AM
Skipjack K8 09 Oct 05 - 07:55 AM
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Susanne (skw) 08 Oct 05 - 04:30 PM
John MacKenzie 07 Oct 05 - 11:59 AM
Wolfgang 07 Oct 05 - 11:40 AM
Skipjack K8 06 Oct 05 - 06:14 PM
Susanne (skw) 06 Oct 05 - 05:28 PM
Col K 05 Oct 05 - 07:41 PM
Letty 05 Oct 05 - 03:40 AM
michaelr 04 Oct 05 - 08:31 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 04 Oct 05 - 08:29 PM
mooman 04 Oct 05 - 11:27 AM
Letty 04 Oct 05 - 10:43 AM
Mr Red 04 Oct 05 - 07:45 AM
Letty 04 Oct 05 - 05:22 AM
John MacKenzie 30 Sep 05 - 10:44 AM
GUEST,Greycap 30 Sep 05 - 10:08 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 29 Sep 05 - 08:25 PM
Tannywheeler 29 Sep 05 - 04:43 PM
Freso 29 Sep 05 - 04:19 PM
Wilfried Schaum 29 Sep 05 - 04:01 AM
Susanne (skw) 23 Sep 05 - 05:05 PM
GUEST,muppitz at work 23 Sep 05 - 07:12 AM
Eric the Viking 22 Sep 05 - 07:20 PM
Letty 22 Sep 05 - 05:12 PM
Letty 22 Sep 05 - 05:07 PM
Susanne (skw) 22 Sep 05 - 04:58 PM
Letty 22 Sep 05 - 05:22 AM
GUEST,Dáithí Ó Geanainn 22 Sep 05 - 04:47 AM
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GUEST,Philippa 21 Sep 05 - 09:09 AM
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alanww 21 Sep 05 - 06:41 AM
John MacKenzie 21 Sep 05 - 03:59 AM
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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 06:31 PM

Kiel Canal!! You be Davies and I'll be Carruthers. That'll be brilliant, Iceland 2007, Munich 2008, Kiel 2009, Canterbury 2010!

Sorted.


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 06:25 PM

Okay, 2009 it is - and, by the way, Kiel has its very own brewery still going strong. As to the beer quality, people tell me it's quite drinkable. On the other hand, there hasn't been much in the way of sightseeing opportunities since Kiel was - to borrow a phrase from Harvey Andrews - redeveloped by the British in the early 1940s. However, Icould perhaps arrange a boat trip on the world-famous Kiel Canal, aka Nord-Ostsee-Kanal, with on-board session, perhaps?


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 05:26 PM

It makes even less sense to me Andy, I'm only doing what BabelFish told me to do. I asked it to say "Could the good beer in Bavaria be why he wants to go there" or words a bit like that.
Giok ☺


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: MudGuard
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 03:31 PM

Greg, as Wolfgang lives in North Germany (Münster/Hannover), it is a far shorter travel for him to Kiel than it would be to Munich ==> 2008 Kiel

Giok, no good beer in Bavaria, I agree!
"Ist der der Grund, den Sie durch jedes zufällige Greg gehen möchten?" does not make any sense to me - could you give the English original of that sentence?


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 08:17 AM

Gutes bayerisches Bier welches gutes bayerisches Bier? Ist der der Grund, den Sie durch jedes zufällige Greg gehen möchten?
Giok ☺


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 07:55 AM

You have missed nothing, Susanne, my darling. Tollesbury is my spiritual home in the Essex marshes that I am keeping up my sleeve for a year when noone else can be arsed to organise the Eurogather.

I'm looking forward to my first visit to Munich in 2008. Never been to Bavaria before, and it's fairer on our founder, Wolfgang, not to have to drag his ass so far that far.


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: MudGuard
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 04:08 AM

Susanne, you can have 2008 ;-)


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 04:30 PM

Greg, where does Kiel fit in the schedule? We have a great venue for a session up here! Maybe we could have 2009 1/2? Anyway, who or what is Tollesbury? (I didn't miss something there, did I?)


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 11:59 AM

England two years in succession Greg?
G..


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Wolfgang
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 11:40 AM

For me Danmark too is an existing idea.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 06:14 PM

2006 Cork
2007 Iceland
2008 Munich
2009 Tollesbury
2010 Canterbury


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 05:28 PM

Letty, how exciting! Count me in for 2010! Do you think they'll let us have our session in that nice little church they've got there?


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Col K
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 07:41 PM

If Upton festival is not happening in 2006 then I may make a trip to the Euro gathering, and visit friends either before or after, depending on many other commitments.


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Letty
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 03:40 AM

Hm, come September I'll probably be living somewhere else. Looks like it'll be Canterbury (Kent, not NZ). Good place for the 2010 Gathering.


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: michaelr
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 08:31 PM

Sorry to say, I won't be able to make it to Ireland in the spring. Now, if you want to do something in September...

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 08:29 PM

hweloo=
were is people live during gathering?
should i take a tent, or stay in hotel or waht?

or maybe sleep in car.

i like to get a camp van, but think tthey might cost to mutch?


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: mooman
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 11:27 AM

That's quite a corking list!

(I'll get me coat...)

Richard


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Letty
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 10:43 AM

>what is crubeen or disheen? And you can get it in an English Market? >I must get out and around England (at least).

Ah, one does not ask what it is, one eats it ;-)

A quick head count, also including the people who are still sorting out finances/holidays/transport.
So far, people interested in coming are:

alanww & Sandy
An Pluimear Ceolmhar (2)
Catsphiddle
Charmion
Daithi
Doug Chadwick
Eric the Viking
Fibula Mattock
Freso
Giok
Greycap
Martin Ryan (guest)
mg (guest)
Micca
Michaelr
Mooman & Lady McMoo
Mudguard
Muppitz
My guru always said
Noreen & Stewart
Rapaire
Sir John
Skarpi (3?)
Skipjack K8
Susanne (skw)
Wilfried Schaum
Wolfgang


Apologies if I've left anyone out! That's quite a number...

Letty


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Mr Red
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 07:45 AM

what is crubeen or disheen? And you can get it in an English Market? I must get out and around England (at least).

Dates don't clash with Upton Folk Festival - but I will be too folked-out meself. AND I have to go to Thailand in March - where are the folk clubs in Koh Tao????


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Letty
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 05:22 AM

John: I've heard bad stories about hygiene in the city camping, but having your own motor home helps then. It is, unfortunately, the only one in town... Could you park the motor home in front of my house? I'm not sure what the Irish laws say about that, but I promise I won't give you away :-)
Failing that, taxis will most definitely go to Togher and Blarney. From the city centre to Togher should cost about 7 euros, to Blarney probably more.

Wilfried: Sorry to hear that, hope you can make it in the end!



Letty


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Sep 05 - 10:44 AM

Letty the nearer of the two campsites, I can't get much info on, is it good bad or indifferent does it cater for motor homes do you know? The out of town one looks nice, but a bit far from the action, especially as there is a slight chance I might indulge in a 'drop o' the craythur' making pedestrian progress proscribed. Or could we fit Greg's Aerophone with wheels?
Giok


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: GUEST,Greycap
Date: 30 Sep 05 - 10:08 AM

Lots of accomodation on the Western Road, about 15 minutes walk into town. Clean and pleasant.
Me? I'll stay with my mother-in-law at Bishopstown.


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 29 Sep 05 - 08:25 PM

I might go if i;m not doing nowt.
I got new job now, and making loads of money, so probably will go.


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 29 Sep 05 - 04:43 PM

Gosh, what fun you're all going to have. Wish I could be there. When we visited Ireland (me and Hubby)in 1990, we spent several days in Cork. Everyone was soooooo nice. Food was good. The hostel was clean and convenient. We went to Cobh, too, for a day trip. Teeerriffff. Have to try to win the lottery or something, 'tween now and then.            Tw


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Freso
Date: 29 Sep 05 - 04:19 PM

I may just have to come as well, although I will not make the final announcement so soon, as I do not yet know what my situation is. But this is as good an excuse as any to (finally) visit Eire! :)

And if Skarpi takes this to Iceland in 2007, I might try and bring it to Denmark in 2008. Just so you're warned. ;)


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 29 Sep 05 - 04:01 AM

And now what the chimneysweep told me this week: The chimney of my old house is in bad condition and has to be repaired (partly torn down and brought up again) next week and equipped with new stand and steps before the chimneysweep might fall down.
Reading the calculation I nearly lost my hair. My meagre savings for Cork will literally go up the chimney, and I'm almost sure I won't make it next year.
So sad to to miss a demonstration of The Fiddler's Progress, by Letty Bunyan.


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 23 Sep 05 - 05:05 PM

Letty, I'd prefer Jameson's over Beamish's! And I may have to bring the car after all ...


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: GUEST,muppitz at work
Date: 23 Sep 05 - 07:12 AM

I've never been to one of these before, but with it's close proximity, I may have to try!

muppitz x


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 07:20 PM

I'm up for it if possible.Letty can I bag one of yer air beds? NOT the one that git skipjack kept swopping with me.

Oil slave indeed. I am NOW management ! (Heavy is the head that wears the crown)

Kiss a sheep hung over the Blarney stone-that sounds an interesting concept.

Jameson distillery sound good to me.

Every day and every way I'm getting better and better ! Or worse ?


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Letty
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 05:12 PM

Are people interested in a tour of the Beamish brewery? This has to be applied for in advance, so I'd have to know whether people want to come.

Alternatively, the Jameson distillery in Midleton is interesting too, and open every day.


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Letty
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 05:07 PM

Michael Collins was born in Clonakilty, which is about an hour from Cork. Cobh is an old harbour town, last place visited by the Titanic before she sank. Both are outside the city! We may have to rent a bus ;-)
It definitely is worth getting out of Cork, as the coast is very pretty. West Cork deserves at least a week.

Letty


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 04:58 PM

I'd like to see Michael Collins' birthplace, please! As well as the Cobh of Cork and anything else worth seeing. Guided tours are an essential part of the Mudgatherings - there's nothing to make you learn more about your fellow Mudcatters ...


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Letty
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 05:22 AM

The reason the programme's still vague is because it is still 8 months away!
MichaelR: there won't be a festival programme as such. What mainly happens on these Eurogatherings (the 6th so far!) is that we gather for a big session, usually have dinner somewhere, have another session, sometimes go sightseeing (although it is up to the individual whether he/she wants a tour/boat trip, etc.), go to bed far too late, have breakfast, then another session. It's all very informal; a gathering of people who happen to like folk.
Things that have been done on previous gatherings:

  • Dinner in bistro or restaurant, usually annoying the hell out of fellow diners by singing and strumming instruments that have been smuggled in.
  • City tours of Munster, Groningen and Hull.
  • Ceili in a church (Brussels).
  • Punting (France).
  • Invading people's kitchens and living room to continue sessions after closing-time (pretty much every time).
  • Concert in a village hall (Barton).
  • Raffles for the Mudcat.
  • Visit to Waterloo (Brussels).
  • Lots of discussions. Arguing the respective merits of songs and tunes.
  • Did I mention we have sessions?

At this point, I'm not sure yet what pub will be victimised, or if people want a city tour (Cork is not extremely pretty, but has a lot of history), or if we're all going to Blarney to kiss the stone (French kissing not appreciated), or...
One thing that is indeed still running is the Cork Singers' Club in the Spailpin on Sunday nights, so people can also go their own way. If the prices are reasonable, I may book the top floor of the Spailpin for the big session on Saturday night. Another pub that may be sympathetic to us is the Abbey Tavern, I'll enquire there as well. If the numbers aren't too high, we may visit another session on Sunday (though I'd be loathe to 'invade') in the Phoenix or Charlie's. The session I play in is on Friday in the Grange Bar, which is out of the centre and therefore not my first choice, but we'll see! There should be plenty of opportunity to get a venue.

Letty


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: GUEST,Dáithí Ó Geanainn
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 04:47 AM

Dia dhuit a Letty - beidh sé go han-deas thú a fheacáil arís!
Conas eiríonn tú le do Ghaeilge anois?
Hoping to join you all in Cork in May, subject to accommodation.

Might be room in my car for another travelling from Lincolnshire area if anybody's interested.
Slán!
Dáithí


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 04:22 AM

Advice for newcomers (same procedure as every year):

Date is NOT negotiable! This is called tradition :-) [Excerpt from the opening post]

So if there are several events on the same weekend (such is life, very very hard) it is for you to choose. If you like it small, homely and familiar with a lot of music and laughter: come to us. If you prefer the bigger events: go there (or enhance your saintly accomplishment of bilocation). Tertium non datur [third alternative not given].

Come, sing and enjoy!


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: michaelr
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 09:02 PM

Letty -- what sort of activities do you propose for this weekend, and where do you see them taking place?

I'd love to see Cork again, and to meet Catters, but it's all a bit vague so far...

Slan,
Michael


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Noreen
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 06:00 PM

Put us down for crubeens, Letty dear...

......I've not told Stewart what they are yet :0)


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: MudGuard
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 10:51 AM

Philippa, ask the organizers of those gatherings to change their schedules. ;-)


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 09:17 AM

My wife just said, "So, why didn't you tell me sooner?"

So we're going to start looking into ways and means.


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 09:09 AM

but there are SO MANY music gatherings all over Ireland (and some in Britain) the May weekend


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: GUEST,catsphiddle@work
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 07:07 AM

Micca and I might be able to make it too. It will be our 1st wedding anniversary on the 7th! will look into flights and accomodation!


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: alanww
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 06:41 AM

Hiya Letty et al.
Brill! Its not on the MayDay weekend this year! So Sandy & I might be able to make it. It would be good to see everyone again. I've still got the Brussels 2002 T-shirt! Thanks also for the hostel links.
Say, is the Cork Singers' Club still going? The website seems very old - latest details are of artists booked in the year 2000! I heard about it a while ago but have never managed to make it. Is it still unaccomanied singing every Sunday?
"... as I hear the sweet lark sing ...!"
Alan


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 03:59 AM

No you go to Whitby ¦¬]
G


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 03:47 AM

So come to Cork and see the world


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Sorcha
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 08:41 PM

Dammit. Can't get to Whitby and Cork the same year....


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 07:33 PM

I have had sharp words with said Viking today, and he is defo coming, even to the degree of supplying his beloved PA for the Saturday night thing.

Richard, it will be luvverly if we can show Jill and Roger a good time in appreciation of Euro2005 in Niort9. They'm luvverly peeps.


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 05:17 PM

Letty, with so many alternatives I probably won't need floorspace at your place. The only thing is, I may not be able to book well in advance. Just in case: Is anyone looking for shared self-catering acc. and would be willing to let me have bed or floor space (whatever is available)?

Seeing the line-up I really wouldn't like to miss this one! Anyway, how about the Viking? Is he on holiday, or facing another Ofsted invasion?


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: mooman
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 05:04 PM

I chatted with An Pluiméir Ceolmhar and his wife Joelle, and also last year's hosts Jill and Roger, and all have expressed an interest in coming to Cork in May 2006.

Peace

Richard


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 10:07 AM

Rich sounds good Letty, respectable though Mmmmm!
G


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Subject: RE: Eurogathering 2006 - Cork, EIRE
From: Letty
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 10:00 AM

Hostels in Cork (I plan to have the Saturday session in the city centre, but nothing has been booked yet):

  • Sheila's, in the city centre.
  • Kinlay House, in the Shandon area. Walking distance of city centre, 'colourful' neighbourhood.
  • Bru Bar and Hostel, also in the centre, can be noisy as right on main clubbing and pubbing street.
  • Kelly's Hostel, walking distance again.
  • International Youth Hostel, the official An Oige one. This is actually the one I stayed in and found clean. Bit further from town (15 minute walk), but regular buses (nr 8).


Hope this is useful! Please don't inundate me with requests for floorspace. As much as I'd love to have you all in my place, I'm back to student accommodation (house-share), and so are most of my friends. This means I am NOT free to take in an unlimited number of guests. I do not mean to be unfriendly or a bad host, or that I don't care about money problems (join the club), it is just not possible!
The spaces I have (currently 5: 1 bed, 1 sofa, 3 air beds) will go to previous gathering organisers first. If they don't take them, I will 'advertise' them. So, so sorry! Will invite you all back when I'm rich and respectable ;-)

Letty


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