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Whitby F.I.L.O Folk

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Subject: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Charliestu
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 02:41 PM

Hi guys,
Thought it about time that I let you know that FILO Folk are branching out. The "First In Last Out - FILO" has been so well frequented that people are clambering for more. In addition to the weekly Tuesday night, I have been asked by public demand to carry on with the Saturday nights. Instead of every Saturday night I am organising a first Saturday on the month session starting Saturday 1st October, from 8 til late. Let's Folk for pleasure; no matter how good or bad, sing or play, be there and lets do it.

Check it out Raggy, Nomad, Captain Crabbe, Mandoman, the Bolton Six, calling the Hull chapter and all points North, South, East and West


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Bassic
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 07:07 PM

Thats a big 10 4 from Hull Chas.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Soldier boy
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 09:54 PM

Hi
Bev, Macca (fiddle) and myself (Chris) popped into "First in last Out" on Thursday night during Whitby Folk Week and what a brilliant night we had!!! It were stonkingly good!! Bev has been in touch with you I believe and we'll be there on Sat 1st Oct with a few other friends from Huddersfield. We're sorting out B&B overnight so we can have a proper night out. A very memorable gentleman that evening in August was Tony Morris. Will Tony be there on 1st Oct? What was also very special to us that night was how the local people joined in with the playing/singing. It reminded me of very happily and accidently "happening" upon the craik/crack (or however they spell it!) in Ireland. Long may it reign; you can't beat a good community pub. But do people know how to find the "First in last Out" pub? It's off the beaten track in Whitby so it might be worth you giving a few directions/ guidance notes! See you on Sat 1st Oct.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: ossonflags
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 02:52 AM

One of Whitby's best kept secrets the "FILO" had many a great night in there, long may your lumb reek Stuart.

Oh...... and the landlord is from 'ull as well.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: muppett
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 05:02 AM

Yep definatly is a brill pub, I pop in when I'm over, well done Stuart and the crew.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: alanww
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 11:58 AM

Sounds great, Charliestu.
Sandy & I certainly enjoyed the two sessions we attended before & during the festival this year.
So, whenever I am passing on the first Saturday of the month, I will bear it in mind!
But it is 205 miles from Stratford-upon-Avon, where I live!
"Come fill up your glasses and let us be merry!"
Alan


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Lowden Jameswright
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 12:06 PM

Where is it?


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: gnomad
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 12:38 PM

LJ - York Terrace, Fishburn Park, Whitby.

If you are unfamiliar with the town I suggest you get to the station, which is quite close by, then ask a local. The pub is a bit tucked away and you would be unlikely to find it just by walking about.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Gedpipes
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 12:47 PM

...problem is finding a local


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 12:49 PM

Hi Stu

Bev & Chris suggested a night out at the FILO at their "do" at the Sair, they twisted my arm to come to Whitby (you can imagine how much effort that took)So Wombat and I will see you on the 1st


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Soldier boy
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 01:06 PM

Good stuff Stuart,Raggytash, Wombat and Muppet et al! Looks like the gathering are a gathering for a stonking good do at the FILO on Sat 1st Oct.
Looking forward to it, see you there.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: ossonflags
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 10:24 AM

Would love to be there but unfortunatley that is the weekend of the big Ribbleshead bash.Details will be refreshed in another post.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Lowden Jameswright
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 10:31 AM

Thanks gnomad - will give it a go - hopefully on Sat Oct 1st (assuming Sheff United aren't playing at home)


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 12:15 PM

How is this night different from sessions, sing arounds or clubs?

Have you created a new folk experience?


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Soldier boy
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 08:54 PM

It was certainly a new folk experience to me!!
Gnomad, are you sure the address is York Terrace? I thought it was on Park Terrace. The way we got to FILO was to go up the steps on the left of the railway station towards the Hospital, then turn left passed the main Hospital entrance, then turn right up North Road and then second left onto Park Terrace and the FILO was further down Park Terrace on the right after a small convenience store.
Sorry to be pedantic but it is a confusing warren of streets of terraced housing in that part of Whitby!


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Effsee
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 09:34 PM

Why FILO?


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Tim theTwangler
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 10:18 PM

What is it please.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 03:38 AM

First In Last Out is a little back street pub tucked away from the tourist area of Whitby in an area known as fishburn Park. Stu started a folk session on a Tuesday some time ago and tried to start a saturday night session as well with mixed results. He has now decided to give it another shot which happily coincides with group of people from Huddersfield who decided independently to have a weekend in Whitby and have a session (with the landlords OK)on the 1st of October.
Primarily a singing session with a few tunes thrown in for good measure, the pub itself is a tad scruffy but very welcoming and Chuck, the landlord, is very supportive of the music


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: ossonflags
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 03:50 AM

So you aint putting in an appearance at Ribblehead then Raggy?


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Charliestu
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 04:08 AM

"First In, Last Out" pub hence FILO Folk. Two ways to get to it
1. From the college camp site head for traffic lights and cross straight over road down Waterstead Lane. Go past the Ambulence Station then as road bends to right take the left fork. Carry on down to junction where there is the Railway Chippy on R/H corner and Pub directly opposite.

2. From Bus Station. With the Railway Stn on your left head up past the library and keep following the main road which bends up a rather steep hill. Take the second left which is Park Ter one side and Cleveland Ter t'other (primitive economy drive!)Take next first right and follow your nose/ears etc.

What have we got? Genuine people, quality people, friendly people and no rubber-neck tourists wif knotted hanky round bonce!!!

Lastly Tony, our resident bard will be visiting with his usueal "Asshole Hassle". Don't worry it's a song!

O'ra' best until the first!


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 04:15 AM

Oh aye ......... and an argumentative Scotsman who oversees proceeding

:-)


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 04:19 AM

Hi Michael, I will not be at Ribblehead, thought of calling in on the Sunday but it's one hell of a detour from my way home. I did ask if anyone wanted to share a house for the Ribblehead weekend but no-one came forward, my days of camping in October have been curtailed by my more sensible significant other. The idea of meeting some folk from Huddersfield in Whitby on the first was muted, so that's where we'll be heading


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: gnomad
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 04:53 AM

Soldier Boy: Re York Terrace/Park Terrace, phone book says York Terr, my instinct is with yours in thinking Park Terr.

Local Map on the largest scale available in shops shows York Terr as tiny but in the right place if the front door has been moved at some time, but YP does not even show up on mapping sites I have tried. Certainly going to Park Terr will get you there.

Hence my suggestion of get close, then ask.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 05:04 AM

http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=489500&Y=510500&width=500&height=300&gride=489854&gridn=510958&srec=0&coo

this is the best I could find, the FILO I think is on the road above the one marked Park Terrace


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 05:06 AM

Bugger!

Just scroll down a bit and zoom in


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Soldier boy
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 09:09 PM

Refresh


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Soldier boy
Date: 23 Sep 05 - 04:39 PM

Hey folks; tune into the thread "Tap & Spile Whitby No Shit this year!!" - there's a barny brewing!!
What are your views on the very private proceedings of a very pampered and insular clique that gathers in "the singing room" in the Tap & Spile every Whitby Folk Week. The private party precious ones!??
Add your voice to this debate.
MC Fat started this one ( and is probably starting to regret it!) - He says he's looking forward to a good "Stushie" (apparently Scottish for a fight or argument) So let's not let him down.
Trouble is he can dish it but he can't take it - and yet he asked for it!!


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Soldier boy
Date: 26 Sep 05 - 04:18 PM

refish


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 27 Sep 05 - 04:02 AM

Chris, let's stick to our own thread, the discussion about the T&S has been running for years


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 27 Sep 05 - 07:43 AM

Anyway ....... only 5 days to go, weather forecast not to good, windy with the odd shower. Chris where did the gang end up finding somewhere to stay?


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Sep 05 - 08:08 AM

In the T & S!!!


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 27 Sep 05 - 09:03 AM

Yawn


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Soldier boy
Date: 27 Sep 05 - 11:35 AM

Hi Raggytash. Bev has booked some rooms in a B&B next to the Black Horse. We are sharing two to a room which works out at £13.50 per person for the night.By the way, it's a B&B but it's bed only, no breakfast! At the mo she's booked in 8 people but I think there is room for more.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Raggytash
Date: 27 Sep 05 - 12:12 PM

That'll be Kika's Place, I gave Bev for number for that. I've stayed there in the past and it's quite OK and confortable


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Soldier boy
Date: 28 Sep 05 - 11:01 AM

Appreciate that Raggytash.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 29 Sep 05 - 10:53 AM

Ooops nearly fell off the page


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Soldier boy
Date: 29 Sep 05 - 10:35 PM

Charliestu (stuart) can you confirm that Tony Morris will be there on Sat night and if so can you ask him to bring some of his CDs along so I can buy one. Many thanks. Road Rage rules OK!


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 30 Sep 05 - 09:19 AM

Chris are you and the gang going to be in Whitby tonight


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Soldier boy
Date: 30 Sep 05 - 10:32 AM

No Raggytash, we are travelling up tomorrow and just staying over on Sat night. will be in the F.I.L.O at about 7.30-8.00pm tomorrow night. See you then.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 10:56 AM

Not a bad night at all, thanks Stu for that and thanks for removing the Bodhran from a certain person whilst I was playing, very astute !
I didn't want to spoil the night (as so many people had travelled from Huddersfield)so said nothing to the culprit when he joined in out of time/rythym with other people. However I would be very grateful if someone could have a quiet word with him about the etiquette of joining in. I do not want to appear a Prima Donna but if he should join in with me on another occasion I will say something to him and if I have to repeat myself it may not be very polite. I do hope this won't be required.

For those who were not there (before I get critised)it is very difficult to maintain a song if someone if hitting a bodhran in a totally different time to the one you're playing in. It is positively distracting


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 03:52 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 04:00 AM

fresher


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 04:31 AM

We all have to learn sometime Raggytash


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 05:41 AM

This man must be in his fifties, seems intellegent so I can see no resason why he should not be able to apply the common decencies that we (nearly) all subscibe to. Is it really necessary to have to spell something out to certain people in words of one syllable for them to grasp the basic rule of thumb. That is, you do not interfer with someone else's song or tune if you are distracting them, or as in this case creating a bloody awful din. I would be very grateful if someone could explain the niceties of folk club etiquette to this chap.
I have raised this issue before when I was drowned out by another bodhran player (in a different club) who when asked to desist not only continued loudly but was joined by his female friend on one of those bloody rattle with beads round, both of them out of time with what I was singing and with each other ...... cacophony springs to mind


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 12:31 PM

It's syndrome common to Folk Music circles. Perfectly intelligent nice people who have no grasp of the basic courtesies of life.

It's a mystery it really is...

Spot


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Gedpipes
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 12:49 PM

I've met him Raggy me old son.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 01:24 PM

Yawn yawn, same old gripes and not wanting others to learn or enjoy themselves. Its a free world and that extends to pubs and sessions.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Raggytash
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 01:39 PM

It may be a free world and long may it remain so, however that does not preclude the use of manners, it fact it relies on it. What right does one individual have to interject rank drumming into someone elses song, no question of my being asked if I minded, no question of other people present being asked when he interfered with their playing. Does this one individual have greater rights than the rest of us. As for learning, this is Whitby, we've just had a folk festival at which workshops were available for anyone at various levels.
Finally guest at least have the courage of your convictions to put your name to the thread, otherwise kindly mind your own business


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,cushty
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 05:09 PM

nice one , Raggy.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 05:13 PM

so what about the grannies from hell.why did no one take them outside and shoot them.Or burn them at the stake.Or fit them all with scolds bridles.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Raggytash
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 07:04 PM

and your point is..........?



You will note that I have my name to this


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,clonmel
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 01:54 AM

Well, now I've blown my cover.Maybe instead of an M.C.we could have a P.C. That is a police constable.Preferably armed.That would keep things in order.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 04:02 AM

Tell you what we'll arrange Clonmel, you let me know next time you're playing and I'll come and sit next you you and follow your tune/song playing the wrong notes , in a different time or better still I'll bring my good lady's bodhran, which I can't play, and join in with you ...... let us see how tolerant you are when faced with such abject playing ..... is it a deal


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Soldier boy
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 10:04 AM

Calm down boys and girls and you, clonmel, behave yourself! The fact that you make reference to "the grannies from hell" clonmel shows that you must have been there on the night ( as I was ) because it was a term used by a certain gentlemen to affectionately describe a group of our more senior citizens who had ventured up from Huddersfield for the night with some more of us (including you!)
Now, let me see clonmel, yes it has to be , you are Bev aren't you and I am Chris,remember me? So your cover is truly blown now Bev! Behave yourself and let's have less of your mischief and stirring things up you naughty girl.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Gedpipes
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 10:15 AM

Nice one Soldier Boy


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 10:37 AM

You had best stay in Uddersfield and stay well away from Whitby if you need to be childish and direspectful to others, who's only crime is trying to learn the Boddasramas.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 11:02 AM

Sorry Chris but I get really pi**ed off with people why insist upon "playing" a Bodhran when it is patently obvious to all that they cannot even master the basic's of the instrument. To then join in with someone else and proceed to make a bollocks of their attemps to entertain is, to me, totally unacceptable. I shall ask Stuart to have a quiet word with the person is question and if that doesn't work I shall have a word myself, politely at first but far more assertively if that fails, I do not see why we should have to tolerate such rubbish.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Soldier boy
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 12:02 PM

Hi Raggytash. I know what you mean but you don't half rabbit on about it. Personally I think the gentleman in question is a unique,brilliant, totally off-the-wall entertainer who is highly intelligent and has unquestionable expertise in an astonishing array of instruments. Unfortunately, the Bodhran is not one of them (Or perhaps his extrovert and very individual style means that he actually refuses to play it in the traditional and accepted manner!) It was much funnier during Whitby Folk Week in a session in the FILO when a chap turned up who had just bought his first bodhran from the Pavillion (it was massive!)and started to watch and then copy the bodhran style of playing by the "gentleman in question".It was horrendous! comically horrendous! Good job you weren't there then or you would have gone ballistic!
It is unsettling when someone accompanies you who is completely out of rhythm ( we must all know loads of bloody awful bodhran players!)
but in this case I think his unique entertainment value easily outweighs the unusual bodhran playing. It works with his own material but very obviously not when joining in with others. So actually, yes you're right, perhaps someone should have a word with him - very politely and very respectfully please.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 12:43 PM

Unfortunately Chris I don't share your views on his merits, I found him boring in the extreme, 27 verse songs of no particular merit do not entertain me, his Bodhran playing was an insult to the assembled company (you know yourself how important rythym is to a percussion instrument being a fine drummer yourself)and I couldn't even escape his volume by going to the bog (I tried it twice and could hear every word)
My rant is not just aimed at this individual, I've experienced the same thing numerous times and although I acknowledge and accept there are varying degrees of ability in any one company I do not consider we should have to tolerate such c**p just because it is in a folk club, in any other genre of music they would be laughed out of court.
As for his expertise with other instruments and his intelligence I will defer to your greater knowledge as you obviously have greater experience than I, however I will have to consider whether I attend the session again on a Saturday night


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: suzi
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 12:57 PM

I think its time certain people here grew up....F.I.L.O. is supposed to be a folk club not a nursery. Life is very valuable, so enjoy it, and stop bickering over such petty things....


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 12:59 PM

Were you there Suzi


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Charliestu
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 04:17 PM

"15 morons banging on their borons" etc, etc
I agree with you all!
Old Yorkshire provern says, "There's some that know and there's some that don't know and worst of all are those that don't knosw they don't know" ( I be glad I Scottish like!!! it just goes to show there brung up ness!

We had a good night on Sat. If we had not had the flu bug it would have a been a great night! Thank you one and all for the contributions.

PS Have spoken with the keeper of Hells Grannies and have been assured their are not due out in public for another 12 months. The drummer boy has been taken to a quiet place and summerily beaten to death. But before he died I managed to have a word in his shell-like about discordant bohdron bashing, OK?

Without youse guys t'would not have been a good night. See you agin 5 Nov at the FILO when were going to make effigies of 3 Hells Grannies plus friend and give 'em a bowron............then set fire to 'em............


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 04:23 AM

Stu ....... how much had you had to drink when you typed that?


Thanks for the quiet word. let's hope someone takes note. My little Wombat is an excellent teacher of Bodhran by the way and has helped dozens, nay hundreds of would be Bodhran bashes learn the correct way to play


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 04:24 AM

Perhaps we could offer Bodharn lessons as a raffle prize and rig it to make sure he wins!


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: ossonflags
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 11:46 AM

It was nice at Ribblehead.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Charliestu
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 03:17 PM

Slots!


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 04:12 PM

Why dont we offer the grannies from hell as a booby prize to the worst party pooper.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,clonmel
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 04:21 PM

Dear soldier boy.Im wounded that you could imply that Im a stirrer. Im simply using this forum to express myself.It may be that you disagree with my opinions, but thats no excuse for putting me at risk of being lynched .I personally believe that the Grannies added a certain je ne sais quoi to the whole affair.And i particularly enjoyed the percussion section.In fact I think Ill get myself one of them there beggorrums.And a variety of little sticks to hit it with.And you can march of into the sunset in your little red coat.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,bev
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 04:47 PM

are you playing out on sunday, soldier boy?Id like to see you before you march away for good.Are you going to the jazz festival?Let me know and Ill take the Grannies for an airing.NOT.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 06:18 PM

Just for the record, the man much maligned for his musical skills is actually quite famous.and he has a website at www.tonymorrispoet.com
So have a look and give some credit where its due.His philosiphy on music is particularly apt in view of the venom his creativity has unleashed.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Soldier boy
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 09:40 PM

Hi GUEST. I couldn't agree more. I admire this guy so much I bought his CD "Changing Tracks" when I was at the FILO at the night in question! Tony is a free spirit who is not shackled to the traditional and rigid conventions of what many expect from the folk experience. Having seen Tonys web site I understand what you mean by his philosophy on music and I respect it to the hilt.
BUT I must also concur with Raggytash and say that when playing "in company" you must at least try to fit in with the beat/ rythm, otherwise you either come across as inept or anti-social or ignorant. It's a close call because I have the utmost respect for Raggytash and Tony, and as far as I'm concerned long may the differences and pure clash of raw creativity continue.
Surely this is what "folk music" (in all its guises) is all about!

Guest, Bev ,I know you are besotted with me but please do not use this thread to to arrange secret assignations.
Please take one of your beggorrums and grannies from hell and march with me into the sunset with my little red coat. Bless!


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,bev
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 01:52 AM

that sounds like some sort of freaky threesome.Im a decent girl you old soldier you.No drilling in the sentry box for me, kind sir.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Soldier boy
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 08:58 AM

Bugger, I was looking forward to that!!


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,clonmel
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 07:41 PM

dear raggytash, ive won a burran in a raffle. do you want it?


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Soldier boy
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 08:39 PM

Oh, I thought the Burran was in Ireland in County Claire, opposite Galway. Nice walking country, nice place - well done clonmel, but why would Raggytash want it?


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 01:24 AM

im sure you could advise ,oh fount of knowledge.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 11:00 AM

Wouldn't mind it actually ......... wonderful things for carrying empties back to the bar


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Commander Crabbe
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 01:15 PM

Bugger

I missed it all!


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: mandomad
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 11:29 AM

Oh shit, so did I!
      How come


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Tyke
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 01:32 PM

Any more of this and we will have to send in a Banjo Player!


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Raggytash
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 01:42 PM

Would that be a problem


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 02:04 PM

What night is is?

Gerry


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 02:06 PM

Or it

Gerry


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,banjoandy
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 02:36 PM

no need for that tyke


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Tyke
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 07:47 PM

Hello Andy,
I didn't mean you banjoandy you know that your needed down the Endeavour and the Tap. Derek is missing you must remember he is now clocking on and needs your support. Someone was telling me that Derek is still practising safe sex at 70.

Apparently he's had a handrail fitted round the bed.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Charliestu
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 11:09 AM

Ahhhhhhhhh! FILO, as story of country folk. I thinks these chat lines is a wunerfil inventshun. Even a positive negitive is as good as a positive positive............oh well, that's show biz for you and advertising too!

Know explanations given - you work it out!

Remember, remember the 5th of November the date of the next "quickening" at the FILO


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 11:20 AM

Do we bring our own gunpowder and if so could anyone lend me a suitable vessel for carrying it ........... a Bodhran would do nicely Thank-you


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Beardy
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 03:58 PM

Its this Saturday 4 March.

First In Last Out, York Terrace, Whitby @ 8ish

Best Camerons Strongarm I know of.


Stewart


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: stallion
Date: 03 Mar 06 - 04:11 AM

Hi all,
I have read with some amusement, the comments about an "out of rhythm" drummer, so far anonymouse and then named and shamed, it was a hoot 'cos I had his name in the frame almost immediately. My sympathies go out to you musos it is tough, singing is my only vice and it's hard when someone is singing off key and out of tune in your ear, worse though, is when musos join in when your singing in "Free time" and with a slightly different melody to the one they are playing, some one once said to me " you sang that all wrong"- "this is how it goes"..... Who's song was it anyway!
Maybe I could round the "boys" up for a trip to tuesday FILO, it sounds like our sort of thing!
Peter


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 03 Mar 06 - 07:21 AM

Thanks for the reminder, will be in Whitby but will need to practice for a forthcoming gig, with my oppo who lives in Essex, don't know if the FILO is the right place to do it


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: Ruston Hornsby
Date: 03 Mar 06 - 08:35 AM

Been reading this with interest and some sympathy. I remember when I first mooted taking my melodeon out and playing it in a local folk club a friend offered the advice "don't get up and do anything you wouldn't be prepared to sit through yourself". which I've always thought was good advice. Mind you, he now lives in Whitby - I hope it's not him with the drum. Over in Preston one of the folk clubs describes it's singer's night arrangements as "anyone can join in but don't mess it up". Having now had 30ish years of playing, sometimes with others, sometimes in spite of them, I can go with that.

Mike


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 03 Mar 06 - 09:12 AM

took the resurrection of this thread to mean there was a night on Saturday, it being the first saturday of the month, is there a session on the 4th


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: gnomad
Date: 03 Mar 06 - 11:00 AM

Re Sat 4Mar2006, yes, it's on according to Charliestu.

If Ruston Hornsby is who I think it is then I don't remember saying that, but it fits what I would advise and sounds like me. Welcome to the world of lunacy, I never set fire to Stan's cap and it wasn't me snoring that night, I was in bed miles away.

Either way no, the drummer ain't me, though I did witness the matter.

Bit wet underfoot, I must be in de Nile.


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Ruston Hornsby
Date: 03 Mar 06 - 11:57 AM

Oh yes - 'tis me. I'm glad it's not you with the drum. And I will admit to acidentally setting fire to the late Stan Compton's corduroy cap during a song from the similarly departed Ken Loveless. We could have made him put it on and perform Arthur Brown's "Fire".....wasn't he from Whitby....?

Mike


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: stallion
Date: 04 Mar 06 - 05:14 AM

Had a word with the "boys" we would like to come to the session, could someone PM me with the dates of the next couple of sessions?
cheers
peter


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Subject: RE: Whitby F.I.L.O Folk
From: GUEST,Commander Crabbe
Date: 04 Mar 06 - 09:15 AM

Peter

Sessions are every Tuesday at 8;30 to 9:00pm ish start

Same again but a bit earlier on first Saturday of every month

CC


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