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happy? - Sept 20 (Alma)

Abby Sale 20 Sep 05 - 12:35 PM
GUEST,Gerry 20 Sep 05 - 09:45 PM
Abby Sale 21 Sep 05 - 10:38 AM
GUEST,Gerry 22 Sep 05 - 02:49 AM
Paul Burke 22 Sep 05 - 03:45 AM
Abby Sale 22 Sep 05 - 09:58 AM
Le Scaramouche 22 Sep 05 - 01:51 PM
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Subject: happy? - Sept 20 (Alma)
From: Abby Sale
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 12:35 PM

British & French beat Russians at Alma in the Crimea: 9/20/1854

        We licked them at Alma and Inkerman (11/5/1854)
        But the Russians, they foiled us at the Redan.
        While scaling the ramparts, meself lost an eye
        And a great Russian bullet ran away with me thigh.

                "The Kerry Recruit"

ALSO:
        It was the bravest battle that did this world surprise
        To see our brave soldiers to stare them in the face,
        They marched up to their guns, my boys, and soon they let them know,
        They showed to them their needlework and forced them to yield.

                "The Battle of Alma," The Copper Family Songbook; 1995

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Subject: RE: happy? - Sept 20 (Alma)
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 09:45 PM

Heights of Alma

Then Britain's sons may well remember
Every twentieth of September
When we made the Russian bear surrender,
And gained the heights of Alma.

It's on the Family Favourites album by Australians Liz & Brent Munro


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Subject: RE: happy? - Sept 20 (Alma)
From: Abby Sale
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 10:38 AM

GUEST,Gerry: Thank you for being on the lookout and the citation. I believe it's the same song as "The Batle of Alma" cited above, though.

Do the Munros offer that it's been collected in Australia? I didn't know that, if so.


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Subject: RE: happy? - Sept 20 (Alma)
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 02:49 AM

Abby, I don't see how Heights of Alma can be the same song as The Battle of Alma.
Anyway, I can't sing the stanza you gave for Battle to the tune I know for Heights,
and I don't see anything like your stanza in the DT version of Heights.

There's also the Tom Lehrer song, Alma, but that's about a different battle.

I'll try to remember to have a look at the Munro liner notes to see whether they say
how they came across the song.


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Subject: RE: happy? - Sept 20 (Alma)
From: Paul Burke
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 03:45 AM

I'm desperately trying to remember the name of the guy from Peterborough, good guitarist, who used to sing it 20+ years ago. He also sang Goose Bay, a Canadian song with a great tune that I used for 'Come all ye lads of high renown'.


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Subject: RE: happy? - Sept 20 (Alma)
From: Abby Sale
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 09:58 AM

GUEST,Gerry,

My bad. I've confused "Battle of Alma" from the Coppers with "Battle of Alma" from Greig~Duncan (#158 +/-). The latter is a version of "Hey, Menschikoff, are ye waukin' yet?" to the obvious tune. In years I post the latter, I do so on Sept 18, the day the song gives for the landing at "Creemah bay."

This includes the lines: "It was on September, the eighteenth day, / In spite of the salt seas dashing spray, / We landed safe in the Creemah bay (Crimea, of course) / Upon our road to Alma."

Nearly identical to DigTrad's "Heights of Alma."

Oh, well.

There are surprisingly many Alma songs out there from much of the Empire. Canada, too. And, back to Greig~Duncan (NE of Scotland, "The Highlanders War-Cry at the Battle of Alma."


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Subject: RE: happy? - Sept 20 (Alma)
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 01:51 PM

And any number of muisc hall, broadsheets, whatnot.


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Subject: RE: happy? - Sept 20 (Alma)
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 09:07 PM

Correction to my earlier missive - it's Liz and JOHN Munro.
I've looked at the liner notes now - no indication of where
they chanced upon the song.


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