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acoustic baritone guitar strings?

GUEST,leftydee 06 Oct 05 - 05:11 PM
Mooh 06 Oct 05 - 08:53 PM
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Subject: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: GUEST,leftydee
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 05:11 PM

Can anyone help me out? I'm trying to find acoustic baritone guitar strings? The lowest string probably needs to be 67-70 or so. I can find electric strings but need some bronze or bright bronze strings. Any ideas? Thanks


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: Mooh
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 08:53 PM

I sometimes use a .066 for the sixth and then the lowest 5 (6th to 2nd) from a light set (EJ16) or medium set (EJ17) of D'Addario phosphor-bronze for the rest. Got my 66s from www.juststrings.com who also sent me a .070 and a .080 which I found too heavy for the scale length of 27". Currently it's strung with EJ18 heavy guage (14-59) and only tuned down to C which seems to suit the instrument, and it's easier putting together string sets. I'm almost out of 66s, but they're easily got by ordering online from one of the string suppliers.

Give me a minute and I'll find the address of another supplier.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: Mooh
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 08:58 PM

www.highlystrung.co.uk might have 'em. GHS sells an acoustic set. Still looking for my address book. Mooh.


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: Mooh
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 09:00 PM

It was www.juststrings.com that had the LaBella brand in more than one set of guages. Good luck! Mooh.


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: Mooh
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 09:10 PM

Last post: according to Google, D'Addario has a coated set 14-70 or something. Mooh.


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: Auggie
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 12:42 AM

Mooh
I almost bought a baritone guitar sight unseen (and have never played one). Do you have time to recount what you like and dislike about yours?
Sorry if this is thread drift.


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: Mooh
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 01:57 PM

No problem Auggie.

Mine is the only one I've had alot of experience with, so other than very brief test drives on others and my previous regular guitar tuned way down with heavy strings, I don't have comparitors.

I like the ability to tune down and (1) get out of the way of other instruments in the same range, (2) match my own voice and others' more effectively, (3) play with additional lower tunings, (4) add some bass when there's no bass player, (5) simply have alternatives.

The only physical feature I don't like about mine, and intend to change, is the tuning machines. They are good quality Schallers with ebony buttons, but the gear ratio isn't quite high enough for the heavier guage low strings. The bigger strings tune easier with a higher gear ratio. I have Gotohs with an 18:1 ratio on another axe and I think they'd be good on the baritone.

Mine is maple back and sides (it appears in a Mudcat photo, have a look), spruce top, ebony everywhere else. The reasoning was to keep some clear trebles with the spruce and maple while being tuned down, but without comparitors it's hard to know if this is sound reasoning.

The scale is 27" which is shorter than some baritones but after a few years I've come to like it as a compromise between fingering comfort and low tunability. I generally tune down to C or C# at standard intervals, and lower with open tunings, but it depends on whether it's strung with regular D'Addario heavies or custom sets even lower. After experimenting with heavier guages, I don't use anything bigger than a .066 now, or lighter than a .059 on the 6th.

The shape is a slightly modified jumbo which, though large, seems to give it enough air to move the low notes. No cutaway because, well, it's supposed to play low and I didn't want to sacrifice body air volume. It can really rumble but also responds to a light touch.

At the moment it has a Shatten Design Dualie pickup in it, but it usually gets a mic.

Built by Marc Beneteau in 1998 after considerable discussion about the various features. I'm very happy with it.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: Auggie
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 08:23 AM

Love the way the maple looks in the photographs. I don't think I've ever played a maple guitar. I've been lusting after a Bob Brozman Baritone of late, so I appreciate the info.

Thanks


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: leftydee
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 01:36 PM

hey Mooh, thanks for all the help. It's appreciated!


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: GUEST,Rod
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 02:05 PM

I just ordered some D'Addario Baritone strings from Music123, but they have not come in yet. They are 0.016" to 0.070". Music123 also sells GHS Baritone Strings, which are 0.014" to 0.070". I normally use Elixir light gauge strings for standard tuning, and their "B" string is 0.016", so these would seem to allow B-to-B tuning on a guitar with a normal scale length at a tension similar to light gauge strings. I know that Tacoma's Thunderhawk baritones use D'Addario strings with a 29" scale length, so they must be tuned to a much greater tension to achieve "B-to-B" baritone tuning. After realizing that, I have thought of just getting a jumbo-sized guitar and stringing it with baritone strings.


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: GUEST,lucky
Date: 10 Sep 09 - 02:24 PM

i have hot rodded a reg 25.5 scale w/ Pearce .062 and a set of 11's for the rest & it works well for B


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: GUEST,Fat Bottom Girl
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 03:47 PM

I use these and really like them. But they are the only baritone strings I can find:

D'Addario EXP23 Coated Phosphor Bronze Baritone Acoustic Guitar Strings

Bottom string is a 70 which is perfect for tone and comfort.


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: Midchuck
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 04:01 PM

I took the Baritone strings off my Alvarez-Yairi Baritone, put regular old mediums on, and tuned it DGCFAD - standard one whole tone down. It sounded fine. Then I put it in CGCFGC (DADGAD one whole tone down) and I love it. Probably use it that way for the foreseeable future.

Peter


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: DPF
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 06:00 PM

I use the LaBella medium set myself and have really liked them on my Alvarez. It's nice to see someone else playing in CGCFGC. I'm still trying to figure my way around the tuning so I can do arrangements with a C/G hurdy gurdy. Anyone have any suggestions with this tuning?

Thanks,

Dan


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 06:19 PM

Hi:
I am looking for nylor and silk and steel strings for an instrument that is similar to a baritone guitar. The string lenght is 26'', tuned: ADGCEA,654321. The sound box: upper bout-8'', waist-6'', lower bout-11'', dept-5.75'', body lenght-23''. I would appreciate any help in finding strings. My emasil: sotomayormoca@prtc.net
Thank you.
John


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 08:11 PM

Not a good idea sticking your email address in a post. Much better to sign up as a Mudcat member, and invite people to contact you through the Mudcat's Personal Message facility.


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: GUEST,Sam
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 12:37 PM

Hi folks,

I have a 'Vintage' Baritone acoustic I've just bought and promptly broke a string on. the strings are phosphor bronze and have a sort of nylon coat between the core of the string and the bit that wraps around. I'm about to buy some d'addarios, but I love its tone with the strings it has on, and I want to get the same brand if possible. Any ideas what these are?

cheers,

Sam :-)


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 12:56 PM

When I needed custom bass guitar strings for my mando-plank-bass (a 31 inch scale bass guitar tuned GDAE) Strings Direct were very helpful.

If, Sam, you bought the "Vintage" new I think JHS (John Hornby Skewes) are the UK distributors for Vintage and they might be able to find out for you. I'd expect the guitar to be a bit plunky and muddy with that much damping in the string. They sound a bit like the D'Addario EXPs which I think have the coating between the core and windings, unlike Elixirs which have the coating on the outside. I tried EXPs once and IMHO they simply do not "sing".


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 01:17 PM

as always, worth contacting

http://www.newtonestrings.com/

for expert advice and product details.


.. maybe not the cheapest prices, but reliable high quality strings.

Last time I phoned, I was satisfied Newtone can provide custom string sets
for a solid body 31" neck 6 string baritone.


[optimised sets for various tunings with either wound or unwound top strings]


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 01:56 PM

I may be awkward, but although I know many who love Newtone strings, they are one of only three brands that I have put onto a guitar, given a chance for a day or three, and then taken off 'cos they sounded "wrong". I'm normally too mean to do that.

One other was EXPs, and the third was something with a funny name like "Redwing".


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: GUEST,Claymore
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 11:05 PM

You can get fast service from Strings and Beyond on Elixer Baritone set #11308 with enough strings for the Taylor 8 string Baritone or the Taylor Regular Baritone (5 steps down) 6 string. Gauges are 70 59 47 35 22 16. I substitute a wrapped Elixer 24 for the plain 22 with excellent results.

I had to build a special subwoofer for my Roland Acostic 60 amp using an RCA subwoofer from a home-theater subwoofer which is well worth the effort since the 70/B string is about 60hz.

You can contact them through Stringsandbeyond.com or call them at (877)830-0722. They are located in North Carolina.

I actually use all of the strings from 59 on down on my presentation Larrivee and thus I have lately taken to ordering sets of four of each string for a lesser overall cost. but the pick-up on the Taylor is a superb match for the Roland amp.


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Subject: RE: acoustic baritone guitar strings?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 01 Dec 11 - 05:11 AM

Kevin Brown plays an Ovation baritone guitar - he would know all about the right strings. Kevin's nearly as obsessive as I am about guitars.


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