Catholic Priest clears his chest

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 08:16 AM

I think she meant according to whats said on this site the toll wasn't higher ! What's the 300 ? Is that the answer to my unanswered questioned regarding the Blitz ?

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 11:23 AM

I think its fair to say that his Priest's chest is well and truely cleared by now. Can you all let this one drop. For the last four weeks this poor priest hasn't even been mentioned ! Just a group of anti Irish looking to start a fight as far as I can see.
Jimmy McKeown

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 12:30 PM

" Just a group of anti Irish looking to start a fight as far as I can see."

Funny how people see things different.

I see no anti Irish at all.
Myself, Flamenco Ted and Terribus anti IRA

and on the other side

Divis Sweeney
Tiocfaid
Den
Epona
Ahmed Byrne
Tommy McGarrel
kieran McConville
Lawrence Menary
Jimmy C
Ard Mhacha
Fiolaris
Clint
Tir Chonail
Akeneaton
Wee Little Drummer
and numerous nameless Guests

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Epona
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 01:02 PM

Christ, looks like I'm on the winning side! :)

E

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Epona
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 01:28 PM

In all honesty, joking aside, I wish it wasn't about "them vs us". The truth is such: the North is embracing peace. I realize that there are some obvious holdouts (i.e. loyalists) but the struggle has moved to a different level. I am proud to be a Republican, but even more so, I'm proud to be Irish and that's what it comes down to. I don't feel the desire to strengthen my cultural pride by attacking others'. I like the uniqueness that each one of us has (and some of us are definitely more unique than others!)   Eventually, I hope that all Irish men and women will rediscover the love of their culture, language, and history instead of some seeing themselves as purely the defenders of "Ulster" and living under the control of a government that attempted to strip them off so much of their identity and heritage.

E

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 01:57 PM

Wouldn't call myself anti Irish Keith. Thats not great company your keeping, thanks be to god my name appears in the lower list !

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST,Tír Chonaill
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 09:14 PM

Any of you who think that the IRA was a minority force in Irish Nationalism have never explored the corollary of that argument; that the IRA was in fact only the tip of the much larger iceberg of resentment and anger that was, and to a very large degree still is, prevalent in Northern politics.

Resentment and anger that can make otherwise decent, law abiding people like the good aforementioned Reverend Father, vent their frustration in outbursts as has been discussed here.

Ordinary decent law-abiding Nationalists (as they are commonly known on this forum), far from just wanting "all this enmity to go away", Don, were absolutely disgusted at their (our) treatment by the over-classes since the statelet's inception, and suffered many, many injustices served upon them, silently.

The British are responsible for the IRA's resurrection from the ashes of 1969, and true to form cry 'Foul' at every mention of their name

'Own Goal' would be a much better analogy

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 03:19 AM

disgusted at their (our) treatment by the over-classes since the statelet's inception, and suffered many, many injustices served upon them, silently

Another point of view is that those injustices could have been overcome much more quickly without killing a single father, mother or child.
That you could have been where you are now years ago but for the actions of that internationally reviled terrorist group with all its links to terror sponsoring Arab states like Gaddaffi's Libya, and other terrorist groups like the drug dealing Contras of Columbia.

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST,Tír Chonaill
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 11:49 AM

There is another school of thought, Keith that injustices would never have been overcome without it.

You throw away our grieviences like so much old rubbish, Keith, and being retrospectively optimistic as you always are, you fail to see where all of that non-violence got us.

The IRA were the tip of the iceberg.

You quote me in the first line of your post, and then proceed as if you have never read it.

You crowd are in the tertiary stages of denial, Keith. It would seem that the majority of the rest of the 'British' posters like yourself have gotten the message already.

Try and look at what happened, rather than relying on your own Hollywoodised version of it to keep you comforted in your old age, Keith. Your population will be a lot safer in the future if you heed this advice we give you.

You could be a lot further on but for the actions of that internationally reviled terrorist group with all its links to terror, sponsoring Loyalist Death Squads and their ilk.

The Nationalist people of the north of Ireland did not have the comfort of your patience; things were a bit more life or death up until the final ceasefire.

How many of us would you have been prepared to see ethnically cleansed before you would have said 'Enough'?

Like the rest of the apathetic 'British', probably all of us.

Don't talk wet, for Chrissakes

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 05:16 AM

Yes, different schools of thought, and we will never agree will we?

I do not throw away your grievances like rubbish.
Nor do I throw away those of African Americans.
But they overcame, and overcame without murdering a single farmer because he had been a National Guard, or mother and child doing the daily shop.

Perhaps I am in denial.
I can see why you might be in denial. How could you live with the possibility that all the innocent blood on your hands was shed for no good purpose?

All ancient history now thank God.
Best wishes,
Keith.

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 08:41 AM

I object to being put on a list as being pro IRA

just wanted to say that

feel free to carry on

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Den
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 08:59 AM

Guilty by association WLD. That could have seen you do 16 years in the Kesh.

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 09:02 AM

That was me wasn't it.
No excuse Weelittledrummer
Very sorry,
Keith (grovelling)

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 09:24 AM

I'm sure the comapany would have been excellent!

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 10:05 AM

There is no doubt weelittledrummer that you are a pacifist, we all welcome your posts. I would have welcomed you into my unit anytime !

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: ard mhacha
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 10:16 AM

I would also have welcomed Keith into my Unit, it was Ward 4 City Hospital Belfast.

Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Oct 06 - 08:04 AM

those Poles sneaking into church at the back....?