Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos

Subject: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:10 PM

Help:

Last year (2004) I was able to make some recordings on my MD recorder, but I've been having troubles with it recently and gave up trying to do it this year.

So I'm begging now to get ahold of some of the recordings that people made this year. Consequenlty, I'm thinking that people can make let people know what they are willing to share, or make requests here in this thread.

I would love to get a hold of:

Roger's Blues workshop
Bobert's mini-concert
Dani's Open Sing
KTs mini-concert
Saturday night
Sunday night
Ron's song Moving on to Old Lethargy (Sunday Night)
and so much more.

Max recorded the Monday Night show in Wilmington and I'm sure will make it available at some point (Max ?)

Does anyone know of a way to make the recordings that people offer up available for download at a central location? I'm sure that they will be larger than the 20 or 30 MB that Geocities or some of the other free website sources provide, and we will quickly exceed their bandwidth limits.

Gutbucketeer
Jim Bunch

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Big Mick
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:12 PM

Jim, I have KT's mini concert. PM me.

Mick

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:19 PM

Thanks Mick:

I know Ebbie recorded a lot too.
I've also sent an email to Dennis Cook to see if he saved the Saturday Night Concert off the sound system (one can only hope).

JAB

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: jacqui.c
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:22 PM

I know that InOBU was videoing everything in sight and is talking about producing some sort of highlights.

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:24 PM

I'd be willing to pay postage and a fee to *buy* any of them that folks are willing and able to copy and I'll bet others who weren't there would be, too. What about a compilation one with proceeds to go to Mudcat/FSGW? (Or, does that sound too complicated and like a lotta work?:-)

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: jacqui.c
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:31 PM

I think that's what Larry Otway is thinking about with the video.

I would be quite happy to lend a hand with admin if something like that was possible.

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: GUEST,KT
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:36 PM

GREAT idea, Gutbucketeer! I'd love to get copies of some of these! Next best ting to cloning!

KT

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:38 PM

As soon as I get my minidiscs 'marked' and ready, I'm going down the hill to a video shop where they turn the discs into CDs. I'll copy the CDs and if I didn't get permission to record from the individuals at the Getaway itself (Not one said NO- but note that I didn't ask Kendall! I didn't tape HIM but I did tape Jacqui. For permission from him, I'm going to sic KT on him. *G*) whenever I can't identify the singer I'll ask on this thread if someone will direct me as to the author.

All the way home I had my headset on listening to the minidiscs. Considering the noise of the airplane engines it was surprising how clearly I was able to hear many of the recordings. I have great hopes for the CDs.

And there are so MANY songs on them that I want to learn!

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: jacqui.c
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:43 PM

Great news Ebbie. No problem from me and Kendall will just say "yes dear" or he's back in the cellar again.

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Janie
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:55 PM

In particular, I would love a recording of the "Raise the Roof Gospel" workshop to have a chance to learn more of those tunes.

Also, if anyone happened to record me singing "Squeeze Me" at either the Friday night TV room song circle or "to" Leadfingers Sunday night, I will gladly pay for a copy. I want to figure out what happens that I go flat about half the time on that song when I sing it in front of others.

Thanks,

Janie

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: MMario
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 01:01 PM

yup - spotted Ebbie quite a few times - holding her microphone aloft like Lady Liberty holds her torch...

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: open mike
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 01:02 PM

What Kat said....
" What about a compilation one with proceeds to go to Mudcat/"

the next best thing to being there...

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 02:57 PM

Hmm...well....I've seen footage of the finale of the Saturday night concert, and well.... are you *sure* you want that included??!!!!....

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: InOBU
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 03:27 PM

Odd! My reply to the thread disapeared... let's see, I started with Hulleau folkies... YES I fimed HOURS of the getaway. I have posted screan grabs to the Flickr Mudcat group, see post to that effect, more photos to come there soon, and others can post to that group as well... AND lets keep talking about doing a DVD to put some money in Max's hands to keep the cat muddy... I will be editing soon.
cheers
lor

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Big Mick
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 04:59 PM

Lor, I seem to remember a post, but I checked the thread and nothing has been deleted. Are you sure it wasn't in another thread.

I am excited about seeing your video.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Ferrara
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 05:07 PM

Jim this is a great idea. I'm just starting to listen to my MD recordings. If any are worth hearing, I'll add them to the overall compilation.

I don't remember what I recorded until I listen to them!

I too would love to hear some of the music sessions I missed, particularly the following:

MINIS - any or all of them!
Remembering Helen Schneyer
Pub Sing

Oh well, since I missed most of every afternoon it's too long a list. I'll happily take most anything that becomes available!

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Big Mick
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 05:28 PM

Rita, I recorded the Helen Schneyer session, but I got there a few minutes late and Karen Kobela was about a third of the way through her song. I got the entire rest of the session. I also got the Harmony workshop. I haven't listened to it yet, but my guess is that it is a humdinger. I also have George and Mary LaMarca's workshop on Occupational songs.

MINI's. I have KT and Kath Westra, at least. I will let you know if I have others.

I will try and get them downloaded to the computer and then burned to a disc for anyone who wants them.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 05:35 PM

JtS took video footage (w/sound) of the squeezebox workshop and the waltz workshop, and also the Saturday night accordion, fiddle, and guitar jam in the dining hall. I think he might have taken some footage of the Friday evening jam in the dining hall as well, but I'm not sure. We haven't yet looked at any of it, so we don't know how it turned out. Hoping for the best.

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 05:39 PM

Oops. Scratch the Saturday night session. I don't think we got that one.

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: gnu
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 06:50 PM

Hmmm... can this not be posted to ONE thread? Scuse me, but, gee... call me anything you want but don't call me missing out on the Getaway!!!!!!!!!

Seriously... anyone on this thread mind a clone putting it where it belongs? Speak up now if you do cuase I am gonna ask............

gnu, I don't see the problem with this. One thread is for remembrances and recollections, the other deals with sharing recordings. PM me if you want to discuss it. Big Mudelf

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: gnu
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 07:02 PM

Okay... obviously it's me again. I should not have burdened anyone with my inherent illogicity. I really should be okay with it by now as I have had this problem before.

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 07:19 PM

There's only one cure for your problem, gnu, and I think you know what it is. You're going to have to attend next year's Getaway.

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Maryrrf
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 07:26 PM

Oh a DVD (or a CD or collection of CD's) would be sooo wonderful, and a great item for making a little cash for Mudcat and FSGW. Can I reserve my set now?

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 07:42 PM

Ahhhh, Larry OBU, I know you were at my mini-concert... Did you video it? If so, I'd like to have a copy to send to Ebbie since she was, sniff, tied up elsewhere....

Wouldn't mind a copy fir myself as well...

Will gladly cover costs and shippin'...

Thanks,

Bobert

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Amos
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 08:13 PM

Damn...NEXT year I am going to take a lesson from my favorite Quaker Lawyer Streetfighter sumbitch in the fancy duds and record every damn moment. I may show up a week early and wire the whole campus for sound!! LOL Seriously, though, he had the right idea, because the songs don't show them big smiles and shiny eyes.

A

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: InOBU
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 09:42 PM

Yup Bobert, got yer concert down... as I get organized over the next few I will figure how to get you a copy... I returned to a crowd of creditors at my door with pitch forks and blazing torches... so I have to do a little juggling, busking, paveeing, and roof top escapes, then start editing and logging videos... check out the photos on the Flickr site, ( see the post to that effect ) two good screan grabs from your concert. Cheers lor

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: InOBU
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 09:42 PM

PS Bobert, I will have to check, I was running out of battery, so I am not sure if I have your whole concert, but I did get at least two complete songs.

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: KT
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 10:48 PM

I'd love a copy of the video, too, Larry. And any of the workshops and minis that are made available as well. Oooo, Getaway all year round!!
KT

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 12:45 AM

In summary,

Audio:
It sounds like Ebbie, Ferrara, and Big Mick have some audio recordings on MiniDiscs. I'm pretty sure that Charlie Noble recorded some sessions too. Did Bobert have one of those little gizmos? Haven't heard back from Dennis yet.

Here are some possibilities for sharing the audio recordings.

1. Compile a list of who has what and let it go at that. This would be easy but puts a lot of burden on those that has.

2. Find a central website or repository that has the space and bandwidth to act as a host for mp3's of the audio recordings. Let people upload their recordings to folders within the repository. People that want the audio files could then download what they want. This is a pretty good option if we can find a repository (FSGW, Mudcat, or ???). It's self organizing once its set up and low maintenance. Also, no one has to lay out $ in advance.

3. Similar to #2, but have everyone send their recordings to one or more editors/moderators. They would pick the best single recording of each session or performance and post it to the site. A little more work for some, but would result in the lowest storage requirements (no duplicates) and best audio quality (un-mixed).

4. Have everyone send their recordings to one or more editors/moderators as in #2. The editors would then spend some time cleaning up the files (equalizing, noise reduction etc.) and creating a set of Master CD's. Create one or more distribution vines where the Master's are sent to person 1 on the list, they burn what they want and send them to person 2, and so on. Where they are is tracked by posts to a thread. We did this in the NoveltyMusic Yahoo Group for a set of GOON Show recordings and it worked great. A little more work for the editors but still low cost. Not everyone gets the recordings at the same time.

5. Same as #4 but centralize copying/distribution of the CD's or a "best of" CD. This is A LOT OF WORK for the editors and includes some initial outlay/risk unless pre-orders are taken and no extra CD's are made. Costs only could be covered, or prices set to make some $ for Mudcat.

I personally think option 3 (if we can set up a site that meets the storage and bandwidth needs), or option 4 are the best. I would be glad to investigate hosting options and help in selecting or editing some of the files to inlcude. I don't myself have the time for option #5 or the desire to deal with orders, payments, complaints, etc.

VIDEO:

The options are similar for the video recordings but creating one or two DVDs with edited footage may be more feasible (there is probably less video footage to go through, edit, etc.). I know Tinker took orders and made copies of her videos of the 2003 Getaway. Tinker, how much time/trouble did this take?

InOBU, CarolC/JTS, and Tinker all have some video. They should probably be the ones to decide how they want to edit/copy/distribute them.

JAB

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Celtaddict
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 01:14 AM

Option #2 sounds good to me, the best of each, from which we could choose what we want, with the understanding that for downloads we send a check to the 'Cat, FSGW, or both. (Amount per song? Per session? Per half-hour?)
Of course now I have to figure out how to download music and put it on CD, or find someone I can pay to do it for me.....

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Amos
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 02:05 AM

I think we ought to make a DVD, inter-blending the scenes and songs. Mac users can do this fairly easily by playing the cameras directly into iDVD (a Mac app) and building scenes and editing them against sound in the iDVD environment.

A

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: jacqui.c
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 07:42 AM

That all sounds very technical to me but if any help is needed on the admin. side I'd be happy to be involved.

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Tinker
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:06 AM

I have the Saturday NIght Ladies number and another 40 minutes or so from Sunday night in the diing room. It ranges widley in content. I'm a total dinosaur when it comes to making my own copies, but I can get it put on PC CD rom for about $15

I took a lot less footage this year cause I wanted to be in the thick of it rather than behind the view finder.


tinker

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:08 AM

Count me in for one, Tinker. PM your add. for $$

Dani

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: jacqui.c
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:08 AM

And me Tinker.

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Janie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:50 AM

Tinker--ditto.

Janie

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Ferrara
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:00 AM

Jim's suggestions are good but I think before we decide about any central distribution it would make sense to wait until people listen/watch what they recorded and then check in with a list of what they have?

I'm finding that I would prefer to pre-edit my stuff, take out the arguments about "what key are we playing in" etc and the stuff where people were talking loudly right in front of the mike.

The rest is still not really performance quality in any way shape or form, it's just a great souvenir. Lots of times the mike wasn't central enough to get the lead singer very clearly, etc. So I'll listen and try to catalog what I have, and the quality, and we'll see who can provide a better version.

Don't know if this is the logical first step but it's what I plan to do.

Rita

ps in the meantime we have to find space enough to post our pictures. Dave Diamond also sent me some good photos for posting. Will get them up ASAP.

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: karen k
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:06 AM

I'd love copies of whatever anyone has. I'm happy to pay whatever costs there are. I forgot my taperecorder this year so I'm pleased that people want to share.

k

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Charley Noble
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:19 AM

I believe the recordings I did include The Sea and Other Waters, Parodies, Pub Sing, Saturday Evening Concert, Songwriters Workshop, and Shanties.

I haven't listened to any of this yet but the quality should be as good as what people were doing. The Edirol Wave/MP3 Recorder R-1 is an amazing little machine. However, it will take me weeks to process what I recorded. I agree in general with what Rita has just said.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 11:16 AM

Max sent me a PM saying he might be able to host the audio files. He will read the thread and let us know when he has time.

JAB

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: GUEST,Giok
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 11:38 AM

As I couldn't make the Saturday night concert I'd love to see/hear it, so can you put me on your list please Larry?
Giok

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 11:38 AM

InO, Organized??? You get ORGANIZED??!!!!!! Um, guys, fellow Cafe attendees--is this a requirement of membership???!! I notice you all seem to know how to operate these infernal machines and make 'em function with sound, cameras, moving graphics, etc. Is there a philosopher in the group (with a gift for explaining to backward children) who might explain the concept of Organizedness?? I could maybe take the class next week......Tw

P.S. if it works with me, could you teach Amtrak?       Tw

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: InOBU
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 12:29 PM

Hi Fellows... check out Flickr as a continuing Mudcat photo resouse, it is the easiest way to post to web pages etc, as it gives you click and past URLs... I've already set up a Mudcat group on Flickr and would be happy to add anyone else as an administrator.
Cheers lor

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 12:34 PM

The key to organizedness, Tw, is post-it notes. Of course, organizing the post-it notes is another thing alltogether.

We still haven't looked at our footage yet, but I hope to have time to look at it today.

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Tinker
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 12:49 PM

Lorcan, I've got 20 odd Flickr photos posted from Getaway, but I don't have a clue how to add to the Mudcat Group.

tinker

A few added photos

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Charley Noble
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 05:56 PM

Tinker-

You done good!

I especially like the pictures of Amos, Kendall, and who was the woman singing with the guitar who was sitting next to them?

But then there are your pictures of Micca, Sinsull, Kendall & Jacqui, Mick et al, MMario, and...

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Tinker
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 06:12 PM

Those are from KT's concert. If you haven't spent time with KT you absolutely have to come back. BG

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: treaties1
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 07:09 PM

Arrived back home across the pond yesterday, the memories are constantly being refreshed reading the threads and seeing the pictures. Thank you all for such a great Getaway, and thank you for your company, your music and your song let's hope the time to our next meeting wont be very long.
I shall follow this thread with great interest till the "organisers" have decided how to share it all

Theresa

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Ferrara
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 09:30 PM

Did anyone else record any of the Sunday late night singing? My recordings are fun but I just set the mic down and let it run -- I'd rather concentrate on what's happening than try to be a sound engineer at the same time. So they mostly record whoever was closest to the mic. I suspect when I listen I'll find all my recordings are like that...

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Tinker
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 09:41 PM

Rita Ebbie was recording and I've got some fun footage. I'm not sure if anyone else had a mic out.

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Charley Noble
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 09:50 PM

Rita-

Most of the sound recording that I've listened to does not demonstrate that I was paying any attention to recording levels, but I had a great time. Salvaging a few songs will be a labor of love!

The Sunday evening concert has great recording of Tom Hall and Linn Schultz chorusing on songs; Linn was operating the recorder that evening.

Next year I'll try to be more disciplined, and have less fun!

I have about 8 hours to edit.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Ferrara
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 10:05 PM

Charley, Next year I'll try to be more disciplined, and have less fun! No way!

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 11:33 PM

Sounds like people are starting to get their recordings in order.

Subject: RE: Getaway 2005 Share recordings, videos
From: Celtaddict
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 02:03 PM

Did anyone get Skarpi's concert or the pub sing?
Also the circle about blackguards and rogues, and the weird spooky songs, up by the barn?