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Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament - Moneymore??

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THE BANTRY GIRLS LAMENT
THE BANTRY GIRL'S LAMENT (2)


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erinmaidin 25 Oct 05 - 07:35 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 25 Oct 05 - 07:45 PM
GUEST,Dave Clinch 18 Apr 11 - 04:22 AM
MartinRyan 18 Apr 11 - 04:32 AM
GUEST 07 Jun 11 - 08:36 PM
GUEST,John Moulden 08 Jun 11 - 06:34 AM
Fiolar 08 Jun 11 - 08:14 AM
MARINER 08 Jun 11 - 03:29 PM
MartinRyan 08 Jun 11 - 07:16 PM
MARINER 09 Jun 11 - 05:06 PM
MartinRyan 09 Jun 11 - 05:38 PM
GUEST,Colin McAllister, Ulster Singer 08 Dec 16 - 01:31 PM
GUEST,Martin Ryan 08 Dec 16 - 02:48 PM
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Subject: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament
From: erinmaidin
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 07:35 PM

Been wondering about "Moneymore"...re. "and the boys will surely miss him when Moneymore comes around. What is "Moneymore"???? My guess is some sort of holiday regarding pay from the harvest...but can only find place names of the like. Anyone???


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Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 07:45 PM

This fair was defined in thread 71328, Bantry Girl: Bantry Girl
See post by Big Tim, 12 Aug 05, 03:45AM


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Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament
From: GUEST,Dave Clinch
Date: 18 Apr 11 - 04:22 AM

Could it be the landlord coming for the rent?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament
From: MartinRyan
Date: 18 Apr 11 - 04:32 AM

It's a placename, alright. Reference is to a sports team, basically, - the "hurling matches" mentioned earlier in the verse.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jun 11 - 08:36 PM

I think its a rival hurling team....." the boys will surely miss him when Moneymore ....( the rival team ) comes round


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Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament
From: GUEST,John Moulden
Date: 08 Jun 11 - 06:34 AM

As Big Tim (RIP) gave it in the other thread, it was originally Moneyhore rather than Moneymore and the reference is to a fair that was held there.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament
From: Fiolar
Date: 08 Jun 11 - 08:14 AM

The word actually means "Big Grove" (Irish - Muine Mor)and was probably the name of a townland.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament
From: MARINER
Date: 08 Jun 11 - 03:29 PM

Moneyhore ,( Muine Hór, Hore's Shubbery )is in the Civil Parish of Rossdroit ,Barony of Bantry ,in the Enniscorthy Union.Election District of The Leap. In the County of Wexford.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament
From: MartinRyan
Date: 08 Jun 11 - 07:16 PM

Thank you, MARINER. How's tricks?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament - Moneymore??
From: MARINER
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 05:06 PM

Not bad Martin, just getting back in order again after my fall last Sept. See you in Feakle ?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament - Moneymore??
From: MartinRyan
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 05:38 PM

That's the plan, alright! Glad you're on the mend.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament - Moneymore??
From: GUEST,Colin McAllister, Ulster Singer
Date: 08 Dec 16 - 01:31 PM

One theory I heard is that Moneymore was the landlord's agent. Thought to have been a landservant recruited in Ulster to collect rents, Moneymore had a reputation as a thug and enjoyed 'threatening' tenants who were old or in difficulties. One imagines (therefore) that Johnny (the hero of the song) was able to 'neutralise' the behaviour of this bully.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament - Moneymore??
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 08 Dec 16 - 02:48 PM

See MARINER's post above. That's the real deal.

Regards

p.s. I've often heard this song described as being from Cork (understandable but wrong) - but an Ulster origin is a new one on me!


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