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Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)

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Subject: Need name of song/artist
From: GUEST,Ellen
Date: 21 Sep 02 - 08:24 PM

What is the name of the song that is being played as part of soundtracks, etc., a lot lately, that has a refrain "Hallelujah, hallelujah" repeated? It's a love song. Any tips would be appreciated.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need name of song/artist
From: Sorcha
Date: 21 Sep 02 - 09:02 PM

Don't really have a clue what you are talking about, but could it be the "Hallelujah Chorus" from Handels' Messiah? "Halleluja, halleluja, Haaaaa-laaaaay-lu--ya"?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need name of song/artist
From: rangeroger
Date: 21 Sep 02 - 09:07 PM

You're probably talking about "Hallelujah" by Leonard Cohen. It has gained a lot of attention from the the animated movie "Shrek".

James Cale sang the version in the movie, although Rufus Wainright does it on the soundtrack CD. Jeff Buckley does a beautiful version on his "Grace" CD. I learned it from a performance by Sheryl Crow, who got it from the Buckley CD.

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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need name of song/artist
From: Stewie
Date: 21 Sep 02 - 09:15 PM

John Cale does a splendid cover version on the Cohen tribute CD: 'I'm Your Fan: The Songs of Leonard Cohen' Atlantic 82349-2.

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need name of song/artist
From: Sorcha
Date: 21 Sep 02 - 09:17 PM

Ahh. I was wrong, I thought I probably was. Thanks!


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need name of song/artist
From: GUEST,Ellen
Date: 21 Sep 02 - 10:40 PM

Thanks for your responses. It is the Leonard Cohen tune.


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Subject: Lyr Add: HALLELUJAH (Leonard Cohen)
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 02:55 PM

from Various Positions cd

HALLEUJAH

Now I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
It goes like this
The fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, the major lift
The baffled king composing Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah

Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew her
She tied you
To a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

You say I took the name in vain
I don't even know the name
But if I did, well really, what's it to you?
There's a blaze of light
In every word
It doesn't matter which you heard
The holy or the broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

I did my best, it wasn't much
I couldn't feel, so I tried to touch
I've told the truth, I didn't come to fool you
And even though
It all went wrong
I'll stand before the Lord of Song
With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah


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Subject: Lyr Add: HALLELUJAH (Leonard Cohen)
From: hilda fish
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 05:40 AM

Here's the other song that moves me in a way that's quite scary. If I start thinking about it I've probably got a lot of songs that put me somewhere else - a personal and totally spiritual or emotional space - for example Mahler's Song of the Earth (I know I know he is heavy handed but......) However, this song, and Forever Young weave around me and are written on my skin in such a way that I would not be who I am if I had no access to them. I am glad of them.

I heard there was a secret chord
That David played and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
Well it goes like this:
The fourth, the fifth, the minor fall and the major lift
The baffled king composing hallelujah

Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah

Well your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew ya
She tied you to her kitchen chair
She broke your throne and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the hallelujah

Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah

Well, maybe I've been here before
I've seen this room and I've walked this floor
I used to live with Leonard before I knew ya
I've seen your flag on the marble arch
But love is not a victory march
It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah

Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah

There was a time when you let me know
What's really going on below
But now you never show that to me, do ya?
But remember when I moved in you
And the holy dove was moving too
And every breath you drew was hallelujah

Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah

And maybe there's a god above
But all I've ever learned from love
Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew ya
Well it's not a cry that you hear at night
It's not somebody who's seen the light
It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah

Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah
Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, halle...
It's not what you're told
It's not her face
It's not his touch
In the room you both share
Where he's gone when he loved
When your time and your memory fills your dreams
When you're honest and together
Together no more
No more
Hallelujah, until you're nothing
Hallelujah, baby, until she's everywhere
Hallelujah, until together you are somewhere I'd lost
Hallelujah, hallelujah.


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Subject: RE: Halleluja
From: matai
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 06:10 AM

It was played to brilliant effect at the end of a german film called 'The Edukators' Cohen is one of my favourite song-writers. And Buckley's version is magnificent.


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Subject: RE: Halleluja
From: greg stephens
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 06:16 AM

I dont fully understand the second verse of Hallelujah. The first half is clearly about David's erotic peeping Tom bit with Bathsheba, but then it goes on to haircutting which sounds more Samson and Delilah. Or did Bathsheba cut off David's hair, as well?
    That aside, a stunning song. As a matter of interest, hilda fish, are you thinking of Leonard Cohen or Jeff Buckley in this context?


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Subject: RE: Halleluja
From: Morticia
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 06:18 AM

One of my favourite songs ever although there is a not very adequate cover going on at the moment......forgotten her name but I thought it was poor.


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Subject: RE: Halleluja
From: rhyzla
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 07:26 AM

Jeff Buckley's version is other-worldly, in my opinion.

I'm frightened to cover this song, as I feel it is so difficult to do justice to it!!


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Subject: RE: Halleluja
From: *Laura*
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 10:07 AM

I like Rufus Wainright's version.
But Buckley's is incredible.


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Subject: RE: Halleluja
From: akenaton
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 10:53 AM

Spot on Laura...Great song, magnificent singer ...Ake


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Subject: RE: Halleluja
From: hilda fish
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 02:39 PM

I am thinking of Jeff Beck's version of it. I've heard many versions but it's the old Jeff's that is getting to me at present. The song is brilliant. Whatever the lyrics mean, and they are clear, it is the feelings that the totality of the song engenders including my own life 'sound track' as it were. Given that, a song can't achieve significance unless it has a number of extremely intelligent elements going on in my humble opinion.


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Subject: RE: Halleluja
From: Lanfranc
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 03:17 PM

Where did that last verse come from? It wasn't on Cohen's original recording and it wasn't on the Smudged Air site when I downloaded the lyrics to learn the song.

It doesn't scan or fit the metre of the other verses (or, IMHO, make much sense - I could be missing something). Is it another inchoate ending as in "One of us cannot be wrong" that was added in a live performance? Was it written by Cohen, or is it another's "embellishment"?

I love the song, too, but I don't think I'd bother with that verse.

Alan


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Subject: RE: Halleluja
From: sharyn
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 03:19 PM

I much prefer an earlier version of this (Cohen rewrites obsessively) that Cohen himself sang. Verse 1 and 2 are as you have them, but then:

3) You say I take the name in vain --
   I don't even know the name,
   But even if I did, well, what's it to ya?
   There's a blaze of light in every word,
   It doesn't matter what you heard,
   The holy, or the broken, Hallelujah.

4) I did my best -- it wasn't much:
   I could not feel, so I tried to touch.
   I've told the truth. I did not come to fool ya.
   And even though it all went wrong
   I'll stand before the Lord of Song
   With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah.

Hallelujah. Hallelelujah.
Hallelujah, Hallelu-u-jah.

It ends there. I find it much simpler, clearer and more exciting than later versions.


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Subject: RE: Halleluja
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 03:47 PM

It's pretty, but miserable. Is it Bulkley that mispronounces it halleluLia?


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Subject: RE: Halleluja
From: Morticia
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 04:03 PM

I wasn't aware of the last verse in the version Hilda gives either....and I'm pretty sure it isn't Buckley who mispronounces Halleluja......


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Subject: RE: Halleluja
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 04:18 PM

Didn't it go well in the "Shrek" film?


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Subject: RE: Halleluja
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 09:54 PM

As you can see by the links at the top, this song has come up a few times, and as recently as last month. :-)

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: Halleluja
From: Jeremiah McCaw
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 10:11 PM

Gotta say, that last verse doesn't seem to go with the rest - too much sweetness and light - couldn't be Cohen. :-)

I think the song could go into the Guinness Book of Records as the most use of the word 'Hallejulah' in a song that isn't particularly religious (in spite of the imagery).


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Subject: RE: Halleluja
From: sharyn
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 12:56 AM

Are you kidding, Jeremiah? You can't get much more religious than saying "There's a blaze of light in every word/ It doesn't matter what you heard" and "Even though it all went wrong I'll stand before the Lord of Song with nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah." Cohen is a religious person, has used liturgy before in his songs -- e.g. "Who By Fire."


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Subject: Lyr Add: HALLELUJAH (Leonard Cohen)
From: Mr Happy
Date: 12 Oct 07 - 10:07 AM

Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)

Now I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
It goes like this, the fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, the major lift
The baffled king composing Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew her
She tied you to a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

You say I took the name in vain
I don't even know the name
But if I did, well really, what's it to you?
There's a blaze of light in every word
It doesn't matter which you heard
The holy or the broken Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

I did my best, it wasn't much
I couldn't feel, so I tried to touch
I've told the truth, I didn't come to fool you
And even though It all went wrong
I'll stand before the Lord of Song
With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah
New thread combined with old. -JC


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Halleluia:Leonard Cohen
From: Mr Happy
Date: 12 Oct 07 - 11:25 AM

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nWDfH51gvc0

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rf36v0epfmI


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: Mr Happy
Date: 12 Oct 07 - 11:59 AM

I'm astonished, after having done a search giving 'no results in the DT/Forum; it's actually in here already!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: open mike
Date: 13 Oct 07 - 01:36 AM

This is an amazing song..
i was moved by k.d.lang's version
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=P_NpxTWbovE
and Jeff Buckley, too.
(Who IS Jeff Buckley? I have never heard of him.
where is he from?) The images in this one are astounding..
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=weygNZphUxI


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: goatfell
Date: 13 Oct 07 - 08:47 AM

The McCalmans do it as well


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 13 Oct 07 - 09:22 AM

Too fast! Allan Taylor too.
Jeff Buckley, son of Tim Buckley: both met premature demises,Jeff by drowning, in 1997 at the age of 31, and Tim in the 70s of a drug overdose. Both were musicians and songwriters.
Read about Jeff here:

http://www.jeffbuckley.com/bio.asp


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 13 Oct 07 - 09:26 AM

OOps, I meant that Allan Taylor had also recorded it, not that his version was too fast, but I do find the Macs version is (too fast)

And Tim Buckley here:

http://www.timbuckley.net/biography.htm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: Neil D
Date: 13 Oct 07 - 02:00 PM

I like Rufus's cover and Buckley's. And Leonard of course. But if you can go on YouTube and find a version by "four Norwegian guys", imho it's the most beautiful version ever. Sorry I don't know how to set up links.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: Neil D
Date: 13 Oct 07 - 04:39 PM

This is the 4 Norwegian guys singing Hallelujah.

                        Christina D



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9ABY68mknSs


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 14 Oct 07 - 06:23 AM

Yeah! Good one!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: Mr Happy
Date: 14 Oct 07 - 06:51 AM

Mmmm, nice, ditto!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: lady penelope
Date: 14 Oct 07 - 04:14 PM

Jon Cale does a blinding version.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 14 Oct 07 - 09:25 PM

The Australian band, Monsieur Camembert, has released a 2 CD album of Leonard Cohen songs. Hallelujah, Who By Fire, Suzanne, Bird On A Wire, Manhattan, The Future, Everybody Knows, Famous Blue Raincoat, many, many more.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: GUEST,HRowland
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 08:16 AM

My favorite Hallelujah by the amazing Allison Crowe.

Great by so many artists. Maybe Leonard Cohen's finest song.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: Mr Happy
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 08:51 AM

GUEST,HRowland,

I think guests aren't aloud to posts links here anymore.

This could be the one you meant:


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vIMOdVXAPJ0


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Dec 08 - 07:23 PM

Just by way of latest developments. One hot one for Leonard


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: bobad
Date: 14 Dec 08 - 07:42 PM

Good for Lenny, he deserves it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: Leadfingers
Date: 14 Dec 08 - 07:46 PM

There was a discussion of The Cowell on Beeb Radio Four today ! One of the points raised (Apart from his apparent Megolamania) was the Lyrics of the 'Chosen song' , Especially that line in the First verse

'But you don't really care for music, do you?'

Any Comments ?   And I do a lot of Laughing Len's songs !


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: bobad
Date: 14 Dec 08 - 08:05 PM

I wouldn't read too much into the lyrics myself, a lot of Lenny's inspiration issues from his libido.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 14 Dec 08 - 09:06 PM

Yeh, it's great for LC - though the new version isn't a patch on Jeff Buckley's cover.

This was the first song that I ever performed on a public stage! doing backing vocals in a one-gig band for a charity gig...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: GUEST,LDT
Date: 15 Dec 08 - 09:03 AM

Just heard the new x-factor version. :( I really don't like what they've done with it. Prefer the 'Shrek' version myself.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: Cool Beans
Date: 15 Dec 08 - 10:26 AM

Connie Francis Meets Leonard Cohen


When you left me all alone
At the record hop,
You came back with lipstick on your collar
Told me you were going out
For a soda pop.
You came back with lipstick on your collar,
On your collar, on your collar
On your collar, on your collar...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Dec 08 - 01:21 PM

a reminder of the original from Laughing Len


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Aug 12 - 12:47 PM

Leonard Cohen: "I wanted to write something in the tradition of the hallelujah choruses but from a different point of view...It's the notion that there is no perfection- that there is a broken world and we live with broken hearts and broken lives but still that is no alibi for anything. On the contrary, you have to stand up and say hallelujah under those circumstances."

Quote above from Crowe, cd "Tidings:"

Everyone, including Cohen, sang it with the verses in different order, and leaving out or adding a verse. One might say the song is broken in the way our lives are broken. "....there is no perfection-."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: meself
Date: 26 Aug 12 - 02:36 PM

Very good, Q! (Seriously).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jun 17 - 02:00 PM

Since my hubris knows no bounds, I thought I'd rewrite Hallelujah with lyrics that were less poetically unfathomable. Also, I wanted to avoid the 'must rhyme with hallelujah' trap that forced the silly 'outdrew you' rhyme. It took Leonard two years to write this song. My version took fifteen minutes and it makes sense. My mother says it is much better than the original.

Hallelujah – the original version

A kid was born in Bethlehem
And I am not one to condemn
But Mary, who's the daddy of the baby?
You say that God from up above
Enticed you with his holy love
So Joseph rolls his eyes and whispers "maybe."
Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

The kid won't work for Joe no more.
He's kicking down the temple door.
They're saying he's a crazy agitator.
Instead of doing daily chores
He hangs around with local whores
And claims he does the work of his creator
Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

He's got some guys he hangs around
And gives some sermons on a mound.
But all I hear are whisperings and omens.
He's saying things he shouldn't say
But he will never back away
And soon he's gonna get it from the Romans
Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

He went too far and now he's lost
They got him hanging from a cross
And some are saying, "Christ, I hardly knew ye."
While others cry that they suspect
That someday he will resurrect
And on that day they'll sing out Hallelujah!
Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Oct 17 - 03:14 AM

Here's a nice performance of the song in Yiddish:


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: medievallassie
Date: 07 Oct 17 - 02:29 PM

To the GUEST: Hearing Leonard Cohen sing this song gives me goosebumps every single time. It's your mother's job to like everything you do so please don't get the idea that your 15 minutes of writing lyrics that tell a story everyone already knows could possibly compare to the heart and soul put into the song by Leonard Cohen. Also please respect the fact that you did not spend any time at all writing the melody which you obviously were drawn to or you would have never paid attention to the words. Perhaps you would benefit from tying to understand the writer's perspective rather than assuming a multi-million dollar song makes no sense. Just sayin'.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: medievallassie
Date: 07 Oct 17 - 02:39 PM

Here is the version that the man himself sings....it is perfect. :-) To prove the point, watch Cohen and organist Neil Larsen being moved by the act of performing this song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLk4vdY28Q


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 07 Oct 17 - 06:22 PM

medievallassie, do you think Guest ______ just might have posted somewhat tongue in cheek? If he was seeking fame he'd have put his name to it. ?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
From: medievallassie
Date: 07 Oct 17 - 08:15 PM

Point well taken. :-) Sadly I teach teenagers in Mississippi and after just reading 220 art criticisms that they truly think are wonderful and yet they make no sense whatsoever, perhaps I jumped the gun after the first verse. Seriously though, these high schoolers, when asked what they would change about the artwork said that the central figure of the artwork "needed shoes cause it don't make no sense." It was not tongue in cheek and plagiarized by four other students. I plead temporary insanity. :-)


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